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Title: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Bear on September 22, 2018, 03:48:32 AM
RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS

7:05 PM, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, PROGRESSIVE FIELD

TV:  NESN, SPORTSTIME OHIO, MLBN, (OUT-OF-MARKET ONLY)

BOSTON, (105-49).....................................................................................CLEVELAND, (85-68

BOSTON:

RICK PORCELLO, RHP, 17-7, 4.30 ERA, 187K

The righty held the Mets to two hits  and three runs over five innings in a win
in his last start.  Porcello fared well at Progressive Field in his career, going 5-3
with a 2.84 ERA in 12 starts.

CLEVELAND:

MIKE CLEVINGER, RHP, 12-8, 3.06 ERA, 196K

Clevinger logged six shutout innings September 15 vs Detroit in a division-
clinching win.  In his past 11 turns for the Tribe, the righty has a 2.31 ERA,
with 78 strikeouts vs walks in 66 1/2 innings.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/red-sox-vs-indians/2018/09/22/531714#game_state=preview,game_tab=,game=531714
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 03:08:53 PM
7:10PM Eastern

Red Sox
Rick Porcello (R)

1. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
2. Ian Kinsler (R) 2B
3. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
4. J.D. Martinez (R) RF
5. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
6. Mitch Moreland (L) DH
7. Brock Holt (L) 1B
8. Blake Swihart (S) C
9. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF

Indians

Mike Clevinger (R)

1. Francisco Lindor (S) SS
2. Michael Brantley (L) LF
3. Jose Ramirez (S) 2B
4. Edwin Encarnacion (R) DH
5. Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
6. Yonder Alonso (L) 1B
7. Melky Cabrera (S) RF
8. Yan Gomes (R) C
9. Jason Kipnis (L) CF

Gametime Forecast: 63°F • Overcast • 0% PoP
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Bill-806 on September 22, 2018, 05:10:46 PM
Another good lineup...…. All eyes are on the 3rd baseman & his GLOVE !!!  Keep it going boys !! thumb_u rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Schloicka on September 22, 2018, 06:55:37 PM
Porcello not missing any bats. Lucky only 2-0.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 07:20:02 PM
Swihart with a rare solo dinger. 3-2
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 07:35:51 PM
Porcello just doesn't have it tonight. Can't put batters away.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 07:39:47 PM
Lucky DP limits the damage.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Schloicka on September 22, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
Only guy that scored that inning was guy who got on by the Xman error. Ok overall.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 07:52:50 PM
Clean inning there.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Schloicka on September 22, 2018, 07:59:00 PM
Porcello should be done. Gave up 3 earned runs. Was only supposed to pitch 5 innings.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 08:19:23 PM
Sox get lucky again.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 08:37:14 PM
Bases juiced, Donaldson up. What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
Lucky again. Indians have certainly blown some chances.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 08:45:30 PM
Isn't that Swihart's second K while looking?
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 08:53:21 PM
Beni ties it up, but then ends the inning trying to stretch a single into a double. Questionable call, though.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Schloicka on September 22, 2018, 08:53:31 PM
Tied up at 4. Finally got a hit with guys in scoring position. Have had quite a few chances tonight.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 08:59:50 PM
Good inning for Johnson.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:15:49 PM
Some solid work from Johnson tonight. I'm impressed.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:21:17 PM
Sox go down in the 10th on 6 pitches.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Schloicka on September 22, 2018, 09:24:09 PM
Angels lead Houston 4-1 in the 8th. If that holds Sox win best record.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:25:40 PM
They're gonna ride Johnson for all he's worth tonight.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:27:42 PM
Back-to-back walks. Johnson is done. Might shoulda started the inning with someone else.

Kelly (ugh) coming in. I smell a walkoff coming up.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Schloicka on September 22, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
5-1 Angels bottom 8th in Houston.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:34:22 PM
One more of those K's please.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:37:43 PM
Nice work, Joe. On to the 11th.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
Devers again. He needs to spend the off season doing nothing but throwing baseballs to first base.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:57:20 PM
Pom-pom blows it. Didn't even record an out. Although credit Devers with some of that failure.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 09:58:32 PM
'Stros leading now 6-5, so likely no help from them.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Schloicka on September 22, 2018, 09:59:50 PM
Houston takes the lead in the 8th 6-5 so far. Still 1 out there and guys on base. Looks like the Sox will need to wait another day.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: ipot on September 22, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
I think Cora didn't want the game to go deep so he torpedoed it by throwing Pomeranz out there.

Houston wins.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: markj on September 22, 2018, 10:46:17 PM
Quote from: ipot on September 22, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
I think Cora didn't want the game to go deep so he torpedoed it by throwing Pomeranz out there.

Houston wins.
Saving the BP might not have been a bad idea. End the game and try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Bear on September 22, 2018, 11:56:54 PM
Pom/Pom lived up to expectations...
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on September 23, 2018, 12:06:43 AM
Quote from: markj on September 22, 2018, 07:35:51 PM
Porcello just doesn't have it tonight. Can't put batters away.

markj, Porcello hasn't pitched a decent game since he beat the Yankees on August 3, well over a month ago.  He gives up too many hits and cannot consistently put batters away.  And look at his ERA.  The front office treats him like a sacred cow but I've come to have very little confidence that he will finally step up and go the job he is being paid to do.  He simply is not doing that job and is headed for being a real minus for us in the playoffs unless he gets his shit together----and I doubt that he will.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on September 23, 2018, 12:11:35 AM
Quote from: ipot on September 22, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
I think Cora didn't want the game to go deep so he torpedoed it by throwing Pomeranz out there.

Houston wins.

Well Cora should; have learned one thing tonight and that is that Pomeranz is totally useless.  There is no way they can put him on the 25 man roster for the playoffs on the sick and sorry excuse that he has veteran experience and we need a lefty in the bullpen.  No we don't if it is a total turd like Poopie Pants.  He and Kelly should be jettisoned as soon as the regular season ends.  Well, we won a game last night that we most likely shouldn't have won and lost one tonight that we could have won.  Rubber game tomorrow and we'll see if we can recover and take it to the Tribe.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: Bill-806 on September 23, 2018, 08:07:03 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on September 23, 2018, 12:11:35 AM
Quote from: ipot on September 22, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
I think Cora didn't want the game to go deep so he torpedoed it by throwing Pomeranz out there.

Houston wins.

Well Cora should; have learned one thing tonight and that is that Pomeranz is totally useless.  There is no way they can put him on the 25 man roster for the playoffs on the sick and sorry excuse that he has veteran experience and we need a lefty in the bullpen.  No we don't if it is a total turd like Poopie Pants.  He and Kelly should be jettisoned as soon as the regular season ends.  Well, we won a game last night that we most likely shouldn't have won and lost one tonight that we could have won.  Rubber game tomorrow and we'll see if we can recover and take it to the Tribe.
POMERANZ is GONE.....  Now for DEVERS in the POST SEASON ????   D H , maybe ??  But you can not put him at 3rd as every out, every pitch, every play matters !! iono iono iono iono
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on September 23, 2018, 11:28:59 AM
Quote from: Bill-806 on September 23, 2018, 08:07:03 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on September 23, 2018, 12:11:35 AM
Quote from: ipot on September 22, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
I think Cora didn't want the game to go deep so he torpedoed it by throwing Pomeranz out there.

Houston wins.

Well Cora should; have learned one thing tonight and that is that Pomeranz is totally useless.  There is no way they can put him on the 25 man roster for the playoffs on the sick and sorry excuse that he has veteran experience and we need a lefty in the bullpen.  No we don't if it is a total turd like Poopie Pants.  He and Kelly should be jettisoned as soon as the regular season ends.  Well, we won a game last night that we most likely shouldn't have won and lost one tonight that we could have won.  Rubber game tomorrow and we'll see if we can recover and take it to the Tribe.
POMERANZ is GONE.....  Now for DEVERS in the POST SEASON ????   D H , maybe ??  But you can not put him at 3rd as every out, every pitch, every play matters !! iono iono iono iono


Yes you can Bill if you're Alex Cora.  You see, the guy can become as stubborn as Farrell was and just doubles down even at the risk of shooting himself in the foot.  Let me say that on balance Alex has done a helluva job this season rallying the troops and bringing order and spirit into the clubhouse and dugout even though we could use a leader or two on the field.  However, he has some blind spots.  He keeps trudging Joe Kelly out there and he keeps failing for the most part while Drew Poopie Pants fails every time out.  No reason to keep using them---and why is he throwing Hector the Wrecker Valesquez out there today.  He has been exposed and has been an abject failure for over a month.  Yet there is today trying to pitch against a team that is most likely drooling waiting for his crap pitches to come down the pike so they can tatoo him.  It is Eovaldi's turn to pitch today and he should be in there, and, what's more, he needs to start getting his rotation and bullpen ready to win a few more games so we don't go into the playoffs with no momentum and flat as a board they way we have the past two seasons.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: longgame on September 23, 2018, 01:46:23 PM
I think he’s doing a great job of letting guys make their case for the postseason and Pomeranz should be done with his case and be used only in garbage situations the next 7 games.  Kelly is hopefully making something of a comeback as he will be needed.

Velazquez gets another audition today.  He’s had his moments and could play a role, but more as an innings eater which should be Wright’s job now. 

Devers belongs on the roster.  He’s a defensive liability buy can take one out at any time.  Nunez isn’t a huge defensive improvement so you work the two of them into the best situations.  I have to say that Cora has been pretty good at getting the right guy in at the right time, even at times where we had been wondering why a certain guy was playing that day.  Maybe luck, maybe not, but t’s been working for him.

I also noticed that Cora was quicker on the hook last night and not letting guys let that third man on base before bringing in a reliever.  He’ll need to hone that instinct this week.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on September 23, 2018, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: longgame on September 23, 2018, 01:46:23 PM
I think he’s doing a great job of letting guys make their case for the postseason and Pomeranz should be done with his case and be used only in garbage situations the next 7 games.  Kelly is hopefully making something of a comeback as he will be needed.

Velazquez gets another audition today.  He’s had his moments and could play a role, but more as an innings eater which should be Wright’s job now. 

Devers belongs on the roster.  He’s a defensive liability buy can take one out at any time.  Nunez isn’t a huge defensive improvement so you work the two of them into the best situations.  I have to say that Cora has been pretty good at getting the right guy in at the right time, even at times where we had been wondering why a certain guy was playing that day.  Maybe luck, maybe not, but t’s been working for him.

I also noticed that Cora was quicker on the hook last night and not letting guys let that third man on base before bringing in a reliever.  He’ll need to hone that instinct this week.

Once again Ted, you're right on tune.  I just think some of our guys like Poopie Pants, Cuevas, Kelly and Velasquez have had numerous opportunities of late to show they can do the job.  None of them have while others like Wright, Poyner, Brasier and Kimbrel should be on that post season roster.  As for Meat Ball Barnes and Jerkman, they most likely be on the team though they both scare the hell out of me whenever they toe the rubber.  Our bullpen picks must be carefully scrutinized by Cora and staff so we get the best chance of getting the guys who can get the outs and not give the store away.
Title: Re: GAME #155, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2018, BOSTON RED SOX AT CLEVELAND INDIANS
Post by: longgame on September 23, 2018, 05:44:50 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on September 23, 2018, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: longgame on September 23, 2018, 01:46:23 PM
I think he’s doing a great job of letting guys make their case for the postseason and Pomeranz should be done with his case and be used only in garbage situations the next 7 games.  Kelly is hopefully making something of a comeback as he will be needed.

Velazquez gets another audition today.  He’s had his moments and could play a role, but more as an innings eater which should be Wright’s job now. 

Devers belongs on the roster.  He’s a defensive liability buy can take one out at any time.  Nunez isn’t a huge defensive improvement so you work the two of them into the best situations.  I have to say that Cora has been pretty good at getting the right guy in at the right time, even at times where we had been wondering why a certain guy was playing that day.  Maybe luck, maybe not, but t’s been working for him.

I also noticed that Cora was quicker on the hook last night and not letting guys let that third man on base before bringing in a reliever.  He’ll need to hone that instinct this week.

Once again Ted, you're right on tune.  I just think some of our guys like Poopie Pants, Cuevas, Kelly and Velasquez have had numerous opportunities of late to show they can do the job.  None of them have while others like Wright, Poyner, Brasier and Kimbrel should be on that post season roster.  As for Meat Ball Barnes and Jerkman, they most likely be on the team though they both scare the hell out of me whenever they toe the rubber.  Our bullpen picks must be carefully scrutinized by Cora and staff so we get the best chance of getting the guys who can get the outs and not give the store away.

You would have loved our old Yahoo group back in 2003 and a few years after that.  I'm not sure any of the remnants of that board have made it over here.  It was really good baseball talk but we had a few good names for the guys over the years!