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Title: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 10, 2019, 07:16:55 AM
7:10pm Eastern

RED SOX

Chris Sale (L)

1. Mookie Betts (R) RF
2. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
3. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
4. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
5. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
6. Sam Travis (R) 1B
7. Eduardo Nunez (R) 2B
8. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
9. Sandy Leon (S) C

RANGERS

Mike Minor (L)

1. Delino DeShields (R) CF
2. Danny Santana (S) LF
3. Elvis Andrus (R) SS
4. Nomar Mazara (L) RF
5. Hunter Pence (R) DH
6. Asdrubal Cabrera (S) 3B
7. Logan Forsythe (R) 1B
8. Rougned Odor (L) 2B
9. Jeff Mathis (R) C


Gametime Temp: 72°F
Chance of Precip: 9%
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 10, 2019, 05:54:24 PM
NUNEZ, 2nd base ????  How many runs will he be part  of, on DEFENSE or lack of ???? iono iono iono iono iono
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on June 10, 2019, 06:40:45 PM
Early lead for Sale for a change.  Maybe Papi’s situation will inject some life into them.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 07:14:14 PM
Bogaerts gets caught sleeping and blows a DP opportunity.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 10, 2019, 07:46:18 PM
Where's the offense?
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 07:52:02 PM
Sloppy play, too. Nothing will fire this team up.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on June 10, 2019, 07:46:18 PM
Where's the offense?

Two great starters.  The Rangers starter Minor is having an excellent year.  Knew this was going to a tough one to score some runs.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:27:27 PM
Meatball Matt blows the game.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on June 10, 2019, 08:28:55 PM
And on it goes ....
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:27:27 PM
Meatball Matt blows the game.
Barnes was afraid to throw a fastball.  Even Remy is disgusted with all of Barnes curveballs. 
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
2 on, no outs. No excuse if they don't at least tie it up here.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:44:04 PM
This team finds more way to screw up.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:46:42 PM
A miracle. They actually tied it up.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:48:46 PM
WTF? Why on earth did Holt try to make that? It wasn't anywhere near being close. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 10, 2019, 08:50:33 PM
Hard to score from 1st on that play. Holt ran through the stop sign.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:09:42 PM
Two men on and Beni K's looking.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:12:02 PM
Bogaerts in to end the threat? Not known for clutch hitting
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:12:48 PM
Looks at two right down the middle.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:13:23 PM
Yep, nothing. Onward we go.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
These guys take way too many pitches.  O'Brien made a revealing comment tonight about the hitting coach encouraging these guys to go the other way more.  Judging from that comment, it appears to be consistent to what many here have observed about Sox hitters swinging for the fences.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:19:48 PM
Brasier will blow this.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:20:58 PM
Sure enough. And still no outs.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on June 10, 2019, 09:21:44 PM
This team won’t win many close ones.  Too many chances blown once again. 
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on June 10, 2019, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
These guys take way too many pitches.  O'Brien made a revealing comment tonight about the hitting coach encouraging these guys to go the other way more.  Judging from that comment, it appears to be consistent to what many here have observed about Sox hitters swinging for the fences.

Between him going on about when Sale picks up this win before the game was over, Dave “Count Your Chickens” O’Brien has at least shut up for the moment about Immaculate Innings. 

I just think this team lacks concentration for some reason and don’t know what it will take to light a fire under them.  I think Sale may have something to say later.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:40:19 PM
Sale did well. The lack of offense is killing them. And the crap coming out of the BP. Stupid base running. Missing DP opportunities. They're just not working well as a team.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: longgame on June 10, 2019, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
These guys take way too many pitches.  O'Brien made a revealing comment tonight about the hitting coach encouraging these guys to go the other way more.  Judging from that comment, it appears to be consistent to what many here have observed about Sox hitters swinging for the fences.

Between him going on about when Sale picks up this win before the game was over, Dave “Count Your Chickens” O’Brien has at least shut up for the moment about Immaculate Innings. 

I just think this team lacks concentration for some reason and don’t know what it will take to light a fire under them.  I think Sale may have something to say later.

I certainly agree about their complete lack of focus.  It has been that way all year.  This game is a perfect allegory on the season thus far. 

If I were the manager I be seething about Barnes not throwing a single fastball, batters taking too many pitches and their total lack of concentration on the base paths.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 09:50:30 PM
NESN post game Steve Lyons and Manny Delcarman pointed out that Barnes threw 13 curveballs out of 17 pitches.  Both questioned why someone who throws a 98 mph fastball would throw that many curve balls.  They also questioned why the manager didn't walk the man Mazaro with first base open.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on June 10, 2019, 09:50:59 PM
I believe this is the 10th game that the bullpen has blown.
CRAP!

What a waste of a gem by Sale.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on June 10, 2019, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:48:46 PM
WTF? Why on earth did Holt try to make that? It wasn't anywhere near being close. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

WHO sent him?
He was out by a mile.

Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 10:04:26 PM
He ran through the stop sign
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 11, 2019, 07:34:37 AM
Quote from: markj on June 10, 2019, 08:48:46 PM
WTF? Why on earth did Holt try to make that? It wasn't anywhere near being close. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Looked to me that the 3rd base coach was to far down the line with a late stop sign ??  No excuse, but that is a poor/tough look for the runner ?? iono iono iono iono
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 11, 2019, 07:38:54 AM
Quote from: markj on June 10, 2019, 09:40:19 PM
Sale did well. The lack of offense is killing them. And the crap coming out of the BP. Stupid base running. Missing DP opportunities. They're just not working well as a team.
B I N G O , it is a crime , the lack of RUNS they get for SALE. Show me a TEAM that SCORES early and you will see a TEAM that keeps the other TEAM off balance & vice versa !!! iono iono iono
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 11, 2019, 07:46:33 AM
So, I think that the SOX are something like 15 & 16  @ FRIENDLY FENWAY , no excuse for that but does show how POORLY  CONSTRUCTED this team is !!!  Not sure what  D D can do with so many average to poor performers ????? NUNEZ ??? BACK SPASAMS with Morland, Pearce, J D ???? Devers GLOVE looking better but now is 0-20 in his last at bats ???? FIX this NOW< GRASSHOPPER !!!! thumb_d iono iono iono rofl rofl
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 11, 2019, 07:51:24 AM
I find this run of "vague" "nebulous " injuries curious. BTW I can not recall the last time Nunez successfully executed a caught stealing play at second.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on June 11, 2019, 07:55:48 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 09:50:30 PM
NESN post game Steve Lyons and Manny Delcarman pointed out that Barnes threw 13 curveballs out of 17 pitches.  Both questioned why someone who throws a 98 mph fastball would throw that many curve balls.  They also questioned why the manager didn't walk the man Mazaro with first base open.

They also pointed out and I thought this was a really great observation, that the team had emotion before the game but it faded quickly.

They need to do something to shake things up.  They won so easily so many times last year that they figure they just have to show up and they'll win.  That isn't working.  Time for a trade or something to show everyone that this is a business and that they need to treat it that way. 
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 11, 2019, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on June 11, 2019, 07:51:24 AM
I find this run of "vague" "nebulous " injuries curious. BTW I can not recall the last time Nunez successfully executed a caught stealing play at second.
CONCUR...… He is painful to watch on DEFENSE..... Even though Texas started a left hander, I would have gone with HOLT at 2nd ……  ALSO, HERNANDEZ is showing some good things too !!! iono iono iono
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on June 11, 2019, 08:18:10 AM
Quote from: longgame on June 11, 2019, 07:55:48 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on June 10, 2019, 09:50:30 PM
NESN post game Steve Lyons and Manny Delcarman pointed out that Barnes threw 13 curveballs out of 17 pitches.  Both questioned why someone who throws a 98 mph fastball would throw that many curve balls.  They also questioned why the manager didn't walk the man Mazaro with first base open.

They also pointed out and I thought this was a really great observation, that the team had emotion before the game but it faded quickly.

They need to do something to shake things up.  They won so easily so many times last year that they figure they just have to show up and they'll win.  That isn't working.  Time for a trade or something to show everyone that this is a business and that they need to treat it that way.

Ted, sorry to say it may be too late to make a minimal change that will make a difference.  In the business world these are most times like huge oil tankers.  It takes a lot of time to get those suckers tutned.  The GMs for the Twins, LA, NY, Phil made the critical moves six months ago, while we stayed status quo, extending the same players.

I think one big mistake was resigning Pearce.  Looked good at the time, but that $6 mil (plus the other $4 mil available) was the money we needed for a good BP arm when our budget situation was so tight.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on June 11, 2019, 12:54:05 PM
But the Sox seem to have this repeated problem of consistency from year which predates the current manager and most of the players.  Somehow Houston has been able to field a top team for the past 3 years.  The Dodgers do it year after year lately.  Most modern organizations have a culture of continuous improvement but the Sox seem to reach plateaus and think they'll stay there forever.  They made bad moves or non-moves and they don't have a closer as a result.  Take back 4 or 5 games due to the pen and this is a different season.  Ditto with 4 or 5 games from not being prepared to start the season.

But the Sox decided to settle instead of pressing their advantage. 

The only upside is that the Sox have been in a pretty tough stretch when you look at 6 with Houston, 4 with the MFY, 4 with TB, plus Cleveland and Colorado aren't terrible.  At the end of July they have a stretch where they play 3 at TB, 4 vs NYY and 3 vs TB at home, then 3 at NYY from July 22 - August 4.  That two weeks is the entire season. 
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on June 11, 2019, 05:07:28 PM
AND the money owed Pedroia hurts the bottom line too.
Title: Re: GAME #67, MONDAY, JUNE 10, 2019, TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 11, 2019, 05:33:58 PM
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on June 11, 2019, 05:07:28 PM
AND the money owed Pedroia hurts the bottom line too.
WHO ?????? iono iono iono iono iono