7:05pm Eastern
RED SOX
David Price (L)
1. Mookie Betts (R) CF
2. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
3. J.D. Martinez (R) RF
4. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
5. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
6. Christian Vazquez (R) C
7. Michael Chavis (R) 2B
8. Eduardo Nunez (R) DH
9. Sam Travis (R) 1B
YANKEES
CC Sabathia (L)
1. DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
2. Luke Voit (R) 1B
3. Gary Sanchez (R) DH
4. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
5. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
6. Gio Urshela (R) 3B
7. Clint Frazier (R) RF
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Brett Gardner (L) LF
Gametime Temp: 73°F
Chance of Precip: 19%
I've recorded the first two games of this series and naturally had to erase it after we played like crapola and got our lunch eaten. So I recorded it again for today's game. Glutton for punishment? I hope not. We need a win badly or the team might just collapse like in 2014. Besides my wife and I leave for Boston on Tuesday evening and I would like to be in at least a tranquil mindset when we leave. Like most of you I take losing very poorly. Come on guys, get us a win tonight.
For a few weeks I was on edge, in front of the TV/computer cheering every single, then moaning every wild swing for a strikeout. This week I made a change. Until they get straightened out and look like a contender ought to look, I'm watching every game like it's still spring training. It might help my insomnia after the three hour games.
As DAD would SAY, "SON, wow, how the mighty have fallen " !!! iono iono iono iono rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Well JD goes deep into the night.
Nunez gets a hit and then runs into an out.
Quote from: elktonnick on June 02, 2019, 06:29:08 PM
Nunez gets a hit and then runs into an out.
According the our crack announcing team that was a great defensive play by the Yankees.
I’m tired of Nunez giving away outs on both sides of the ball.
I also doubt Price feels like he has something to prove, even though they’ve been harping on that too.
Betts has another inning to lead off and goes down meekly again.
Price's love affair with his cutter coming back to haunt him.
Another failed hit and run. Ends up a DP to kill the scoring chance.
Gift run from the Yanks. Sloppy play.
This team needs all the gifts they can get.
Holt with an RBI single. Finally a clutch hit.
Another muffed play in the Yanks OF yields another run. Sox up 6-2.
Game could turn around here.
Gardner is always a pest. But at least this time he didn't cause any damage. Hembree gets them out of that jam. Sox still up 6-2.
Sox look like a different team tonight.
Raffy with a weird blooper to bring in Xander. Good to see some clutch hitting with RISP. Sox up 7-2.
Something weird going on in the stands behind home plate. No one is looking at the game.
Meatball Matt Barnes loads the bases with no outs. Going to be tough getting out of this jam with no runs.
Balk? Seriously? So Barnes balks in a run. Now 8-3.
Is Cora sleeping? Barnes is useless tonight. Get someone up in the pen now.
Watching Barnes pitch is like having a root canal without Novocain.
Well, he "only" gave up 3 runs. Maybe the pen can hold the remaining lead.
AND yet, last night, with no lead -
the bullpen was great - allowing no runs.
SIGH . . .
The rain was ridiculous though. Barnes was soaked and couldn’t get a grip. I figure he was the best chance to get through that inning no matter what though as we all know he’s about the best they have.
Now Workman is the closer of the day.
Here we go. Lead off hitter on, hold on to your hats.
Watching Workman is far less traumatic than Barnes . And He gets his second save Sox win.
PHEW!
Sox hold on to win!
Red Sox 8 - Yankees 5.
First win of the season against the Yankees.
Workman got through it. Sox avert a sweep and climb back over .500.
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on June 02, 2019, 09:31:46 PM
AND yet, last night, with no lead -
the bullpen was great - allowing no runs.
SIGH . . .
Some pitchers can pitch when their team is behind because there is no pressure on them. The key is pitching with a lead and trying to preserve it. Barnes once again showed by in many cases he is a total meatball. He has hardly improved a twit since we brought him up. One good outing, one bad and one mediocre. You cannot win consistently with a reliever like that. OTOH, I may be hallucinating but is Xander Bogaerts coming into his own finally? He is doing a bang-up job that Betts, Benintendi and Martinez were supposed to be doing. Maybe he has finally found it.
Quote from: markj on June 02, 2019, 09:39:54 PM
Workman got through it. Sox avert a sweep and climb back over .500.
Yippee I O Kai A----and I don't have to erase the game off my computer to boot.
Yes, good to see Bogey providing some timely hitting and leadership of late. And when was the last time Price won at Yankee Stadium? He's statistically our best pitcher this year, considering Porcello's dismal road record (6.00+ era).,
A GOOD WIN to get !!! A day off & on to K C ……. We need a 10 game WIN streak , NOW GRASSHOPPER !!!!! thumb_u rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
That pen is going to kill us. Wright is available to start rehab in a week. I'm hopeful that DD's "moves" aren't "wait until the injured guys get back".
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on June 02, 2019, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on June 02, 2019, 09:31:46 PM
AND yet, last night, with no lead -
the bullpen was great - allowing no runs.
SIGH . . .
Some pitchers can pitch when their team is behind because there is no pressure on them. The key is pitching with a lead and trying to preserve it. Barnes once again showed by in many cases he is a total meatball. He has hardly improved a twit since we brought him up. One good outing, one bad and one mediocre. You can win consistently with a reliever like that. OTOH, I may be hallucinating but is Xander Bogaerts coming into his own finally? He is doing a bang-up job that Betts, Benintendi and Martinez were supposed to be doing. Maybe he has finally found it.
Fred, for the most part, I agree with your assessment of Barnes. I was at the game last night and when he came into the game in the 8th the weather conditions with rain was ridiculous. The only reason they continued playing had to be the report that it was a fast-moving storm which it was lasting less than 20 minutes. Saying that I will give Barnes a pass last night only.
As far as Bogey is concerned last season hopefully was what he will be going forward and reason for his extension. I doubt the Sox see him as 30 hr guy which I don`t either but I for 1 liked the extension.
The only way I see Betts still with the team is that Pedey retires and they use that 13 mill toward Betts . If it will be 8 -10 year deal for 300 m I say don`t do it. YOU AND OTHERS CAN SAY I AM NUTS BUT THAT MONEY WILL NOT HELP IN THE LONG TERM.
Quote from: Murph on June 03, 2019, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on June 02, 2019, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on June 02, 2019, 09:31:46 PM
AND yet, last night, with no lead -
the bullpen was great - allowing no runs.
SIGH . . .
Some pitchers can pitch when their team is behind because there is no pressure on them. The key is pitching with a lead and trying to preserve it. Barnes once again showed by in many cases he is a total meatball. He has hardly improved a twit since we brought him up. One good outing, one bad and one mediocre. You can win consistently with a reliever like that. OTOH, I may be hallucinating but is Xander Bogaerts coming into his own finally? He is doing a bang-up job that Betts, Benintendi and Martinez were supposed to be doing. Maybe he has finally found it.
Fred, for the most part, I agree with your assessment of Barnes. I was at the game last night and when he came into the game in the 8th the weather conditions with rain was ridiculous. The only reason they continued playing had to be the report that it was a fast-moving storm which it was lasting less than 20 minutes. Saying that I will give Barnes a pass last night only.
As far as Bogey is concerned last season hopefully was what he will be going forward and reason for his extension. I doubt the Sox see him as 30 hr guy which I don`t either but I for 1 liked the extension.
The only way I see Betts still with the team is that Pedey retires and they use that 13 mill toward Betts . If it will be 8 -10 year deal for 300 m I say don`t do it. YOU AND OTHERS CAN SAY I AM NUTS BUT THAT MONEY WILL NOT HELP IN THE LONG TERM.
Nuts???? No, you are giving your opinion and that is what this board is for---to speak your mind and make it clear where you srand on an issue. For the record, Betts is not going to get that big contract he is seeking because he seems to go one good year and one mediocre season and that does not translate into a mega mega contract. Very good in '16, poor for him in '17, outstanding in '18, and so far in '19 much to be desired.
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on June 03, 2019, 12:26:40 PM
Quote from: Murph on June 03, 2019, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on June 02, 2019, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on June 02, 2019, 09:31:46 PM
AND yet, last night, with no lead -
the bullpen was great - allowing no runs.
SIGH . . .
Some pitchers can pitch when their team is behind because there is no pressure on them. The key is pitching with a lead and trying to preserve it. Barnes once again showed by in many cases he is a total meatball. He has hardly improved a twit since we brought him up. One good outing, one bad and one mediocre. You can win consistently with a reliever like that. OTOH, I may be hallucinating but is Xander Bogaerts coming into his own finally? He is doing a bang-up job that Betts, Benintendi and Martinez were supposed to be doing. Maybe he has finally found it.
Fred, for the most part, I agree with your assessment of Barnes. I was at the game last night and when he came into the game in the 8th the weather conditions with rain was ridiculous. The only reason they continued playing had to be the report that it was a fast-moving storm which it was lasting less than 20 minutes. Saying that I will give Barnes a pass last night only.
As far as Bogey is concerned last season hopefully was what he will be going forward and reason for his extension. I doubt the Sox see him as 30 hr guy which I don`t either but I for 1 liked the extension.
The only way I see Betts still with the team is that Pedey retires and they use that 13 mill toward Betts . If it will be 8 -10 year deal for 300 m I say don`t do it. YOU AND OTHERS CAN SAY I AM NUTS BUT THAT MONEY WILL NOT HELP IN THE LONG TERM.
Nuts???? No, you are giving your opinion and that is what this board is for---to speak your mind and make it clear where you srand on an issue. For the record, Betts is not going to get that big contract he is seeking because he seems to go one good year and one mediocre season and that does not translate into a mega mega contract. Very good in '16, poor for him in '17, outstanding in '18, and so far in '19 much to be desired.
I hope your right but I will be shocked to see him get under 30. The years will be 8 T since he will enter FA at 28. 2019 he will still be around 30 hr and close to 100 RBIs.Not too shabby and BA 290 plus. And a GG also.
In my opinion, if you were to ask Betts today on June 5, he's going to go into free agency next year unsigned. That's based on the tone of his interviews. He's a Damon, Ellsbury candidate right now. Not saying he or his agent change course, he just seemed caught up in the Machado/ Harper extravaganza during those weeks.
Would the Sox trade him next year for a starting pitcher along with an outfielder who can hit .290 - .300? Sorry to get ahead, but I'm sure the FO is thinking about a half dozen key players around 2020.
He's an FA in 2021. He received 20 mill in ARBY this year and will get close to 25 in ARBY in 2020. Trading him I would think the FO has talked over many times and will continue on that path. Getting 1 very solid player and some top-notch prospects in return and staying under the LT will be very tempting. Yeah we all love the guy but at the expense of restricting the team going forward. He's an FA in 2021. Should and most like will happen Pedeys retirement savings will be put to good use in FA.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on June 03, 2019, 12:59:31 PM
In my opinion, if you were to ask Betts today on June 5, he's going to go into free agency next year unsigned. That's based on the tone of his interviews. He's a Damon, Ellsbury candidate right now. Not saying he or his agent change course, he just seemed caught up in the Machado/ Harper extravaganza during those weeks.
Would the Sox trade him next year for a starting pitcher along with an outfielder who can hit .290 - .300? Sorry to get ahead, but I'm sure the FO is thinking about a half dozen key players around 2020.
If the Red Sox even sniff that he will be hard to sign by the end of THIS SEASON, they must not wait until next year to trade him at the trade deadline. They must ship his ass out of Boston over THIS OFF SEASON in order to get the best value for him. Trading him at the TD next year is a struggle in futility because those interested in him know that we are in panic mode and could give us pennies on the dollar. NO, we must get two solid players for him, a good starting pitcher and an outfielder who could play CF and can hit much better than the disappointing one we've had out there slumping most of his career, our Jack Brad.
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on June 03, 2019, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on June 03, 2019, 12:59:31 PM
In my opinion, if you were to ask Betts today on June 5, he's going to go into free agency next year unsigned. That's based on the tone of his interviews. He's a Damon, Ellsbury candidate right now. Not saying he or his agent change course, he just seemed caught up in the Machado/ Harper extravaganza during those weeks.
Would the Sox trade him next year for a starting pitcher along with an outfielder who can hit .290 - .300? Sorry to get ahead, but I'm sure the FO is thinking about a half dozen key players around 2020.
If the Red Sox even sniff that he will be hard to sign by the end of THIS SEASON, they must not wait until next year to trade him at the trade deadline. They must ship his ass out of Boston over THIS OFF SEASON in order to get the best value for him. Trading him at the TD next year is a struggle in futility because those interested in him know that we are in panic mode and could give us pennies on the dollar. NO, we must get two solid players for him, a good starting pitcher and an outfielder who could play CF and can hit much better than the disappointing one we've had out there slumping most of his career, our Jack Brad.
Totally surprised you are on board with trading him, They screwed themselves with Sale instead of waiting to see how he fared in 19. They will
not get 5 very good years from him. His unorthodox pitching style is what is going to be his Achilles heal. Hard to imagine him close to what he is now at age 34.