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Title: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 10:59:27 AM
7:05PM Eastern

Red Sox

Chris Sale (L)

1. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
2. Mookie Betts (R) RF
3. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
4. Mitch Moreland (L) 1B
5. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
6. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
7. Eduardo Nunez (R) 2B
8. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
9. Sandy Leon (S) C

Orioles

Andrew Cashner (R)

1. Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
2. Joey Rickard (R) RF
3. Trey Mancini (R) 1B
4. Renato Nunez (R) DH
5. Hanser Alberto (R) 3B
6. Dwight Smith Jr (L) LF
7. Stevie Wilkerson (S) CF
8. Pedro Severino (R) C
9. Richie Martin (R) SS
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Murph on May 08, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
 Chavis gets a rest after being over matched with 5 K and 0-10 last 3 games.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Bill-806 on May 08, 2019, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: Murph on May 08, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
Chavis gets a rest after being over matched with 5 K and 0-10 last 3 games.
NUNEZ @ 2nd ?????  WOW !!! iono iono iono iono iono
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: Murph on May 08, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
Chavis gets a rest after being over matched with 5 K and 0-10 last 3 games.

Like Raffy when he first came up and was hitting everything. Sooner or later the scouts find a weakness and then it's back to average ABs.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: SeaBeachFred on May 08, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Murph on May 08, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
Chavis gets a rest after being over matched with 5 K and 0-10 last 3 games.

Probably a rare good move by Cora giving Chavis a breather but Nunez on second and Rafey on third are defensive disasters waiting to happen.  And why is Bradley with his 140 batting average still in the lineup.  My God, do the Red Sox brass still think this guy is a star in the making.  He needs a long rest and possibly a new venue to take his balsa wood bat.  Perhaps they are afraid to send him down to Pawtucket because the last time they did that he hit poorly there as well.  But both Leon and Bradley in the lineup together?  The stench of it reaches my computer.

Well hopefully Sale has gotten the problems solved and he can fashion a solid game tonight and get enough hitting to win the series for us.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on May 08, 2019, 05:38:41 PM
Why you sub out Vaz, one of our hottest bats, for Leon is troublesome.  I realize it's lefty taking on righty, but not the best odds for the deep end of the order after Devers.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 06:05:14 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on May 08, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Murph on May 08, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
Chavis gets a rest after being over matched with 5 K and 0-10 last 3 games.

Probably a rare good move by Cora giving Chavis a breather but Nunez on second and Rafey on third are defensive disasters waiting to happen.  And why is Bradley with his 140 batting average still in the lineup.  My God, do the Red Sox brass still think this guy is a star in the making.  He needs a long rest and possibly a new venue to take his balsa wood bat.  Perhaps they are afraid to send him down to Pawtucket because the last time they did that he hit poorly there as well.  But both Leon and Bradley in the lineup together?  The stench of it reaches my computer.

Well hopefully Sale has gotten the problems solved and he can fashion a solid game tonight and get enough hitting to win the series for us.

NESN reports that Red Sox are giving Chavis some work in the outfield.  I hope Chavis could play an adequate left field especially in Boston.  If that were ever to happen just may be our suffering through endless JBJ at bats would be a thing of the past.  One can only hope :D
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 06:22:22 PM
Good first frame for Sale. Hope he can do that 5 or 6 more times tonight.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 06:46:37 PM
Mookie gets the Sox on the board with a solo dinger. Then JD K's on a ball in the dirt.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Murph on May 08, 2019, 07:00:27 PM
Alex Speier reports Chavis only standing in OF simply just tracking balls.I would think next ST he would get some serious work.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Schloicka on May 08, 2019, 07:02:21 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 08, 2019, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: Murph on May 08, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
Chavis gets a rest after being over matched with 5 K and 0-10 last 3 games.
NUNEZ @ 2nd ?????  WOW !!! iono iono iono iono iono

Well if Chavis has the day off there is no one else on the roster to play there who is a regular infielder.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 07:59:51 PM
Had to figure a 1-run lead was not going to hold up for the whole game. Sox better hope they can get to the O's BP.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 08:02:19 PM
After6 innings the Sox look as flat as they did yesterda despite Sale giving up only 1 run through 6
Rob Bradford the Red Sox shill said that Sox clubhouse is not divided despite press reports speculating otherwise but watching these guys play they are sleep walking through this game. The only one busting mis hump is Sale.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 08:09:32 PM
JBJ looks worse than ever, if that's possible. His only hope is a walk or HBP.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 08:18:30 PM
I agree.  I have never seen him this bad.  He is hitting under.060 against lefties only three guys are worse.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 08:29:59 PM
Boneheaded base running by Betts. You never want to make the last out at 3rd.  Sale had an immaculate 7th inning.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 08:43:34 PM
Severino with the prettiest throw to 2B to gun down a runner that I've ever seen.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 08:55:12 PM
Sale pitched a great game. He deserved better. 
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:00:56 PM
Can't win much with just one run.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:07:02 PM
Wow, I can't believe Barnes got out of that without blowing the game.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:13:48 PM
Nice AB, Mookie, 10th inning, tie score, and he K's looking.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:14:40 PM
Just a lousy night at the plate.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on May 08, 2019, 09:22:06 PM
DID they leave their bats in Chicago???
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:26:06 PM
No complaints so far about the pitching. Even Workman got through an inning cleanly. I suppose the O's fans are thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:29:44 PM
Reminiscent of last season when Sale pitched one great game after another and the Sox couldn't buy a win for him.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
Raffy just misses a 2-run dinger. Got Moreland to 3B at least.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:38:29 PM
Still no luck.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:40:41 PM
Brasier in. Can't say I'm very confident here.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
An absolute horrible at bat by Nunez.  The Os were obviously going to pitch around him and instead of taking the walk Nunez swings at bad pitches only to pop out at third.  A very selfish at bat by Nunez.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:44:25 PM
JBJ just saved Brasier's butt. Even Mancini tips his hat to him.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 09:45:00 PM
Just when you want to bench JBJ he makes a game saving fantastic catch robbing the Os of a walkoff.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:46:50 PM
Brasier squeaks out of the inning thanks to JBJ.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: longgame on May 08, 2019, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 09:45:00 PM
Just when you want to bench JBJ he makes a game saving fantastic catch robbing the Os of a walkoff.

I was just coming on to post the same thing. 

These guys need to wrap this sucker up this inning.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:54:19 PM
Beni goes yard. Now they need to hold.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
We are getting the Os broadcast because of blackout rules so we get few reaction shots of the red sox bench.  The reaction to Beni's Home Run seemed very subdued by the Sox bench. 

Why Hembree to close out the game who has never had a ML save according to Os broadcasters
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: markj on May 08, 2019, 10:09:53 PM
Hembree done good, as did all the BP pitchers. Helluva win. Finally at .500.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 10:11:51 PM
Okay Hembree did very well.  The Os struck out over twenty times tonight.  Great win.  Hope this means the doldrums are over.  500 and both Rays and Yankees lost.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on May 08, 2019, 10:12:26 PM
YAHOOOOO!
Sox win 2 -1 on a Benni home run in the top of the 12th inning!
Hembree strikes out the side for the save.

Red Sox are FINALLY at .500!

Keep it going . . .
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Schloicka on May 08, 2019, 10:14:26 PM
Brasier with the win. Hembree with the save. Great pitching on both sides. Back to Boston they go to face Seattle Friday night.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 10:37:05 PM
Cora had a very interesting and telling post game interview.  IMO He basically didn't deny there were clubhouse issues and tensions but kind implied that this win will help the club move on. 

I confess I am finding Cora too smug and condescending for my tastes.  If there are clubhouses tensions I am thinking he is more a part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on May 09, 2019, 05:41:33 AM
Agree that the win will help in a small way to keep them focused as the team goes separate ways today.  A loss after Sale's masterpiece and all the innuendo would present another obstacle.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: Bill-806 on May 09, 2019, 01:34:35 PM
19 & 19 , on to the WHITE HOUSE  !!!!! thumb_u rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: SeaBeachFred on May 09, 2019, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 06:05:14 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on May 08, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Murph on May 08, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
Chavis gets a rest after being over matched with 5 K and 0-10 last 3 games.

Probably a rare good move by Cora giving Chavis a breather but Nunez on second and Rafey on third are defensive disasters waiting to happen.  And why is Bradley with his 140 batting average still in the lineup.  My God, do the Red Sox brass still think this guy is a star in the making.  He needs a long rest and possibly a new venue to take his balsa wood bat.  Perhaps they are afraid to send him down to Pawtucket because the last time they did that he hit poorly there as well.  But both Leon and Bradley in the lineup together?  The stench of it reaches my computer.

Well hopefully Sale has gotten the problems solved and he can fashion a solid game tonight and get enough hitting to win the series for us.

NESN reports that Red Sox are giving Chavis some work in the outfield.  I hope Chavis could play an adequate left field especially in Boston.  If that were ever to happen just may be our suffering through endless JBJ at bats would be a thing of the past.  One can only hope :D

Unless Chavis winds up with a major injury as Swihart got when they tried to put him in the outfield a  few years ago.  He went from our No. 1 prospect to addled side saddler.  But Chavis in the outfield could help our attack and keep Bradley for late inning duty as a defensive replacement, negating our need for him to get some hits once in awhile.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: SeaBeachFred on May 09, 2019, 03:25:39 PM
Quote from: markj on May 08, 2019, 09:44:25 PM
JBJ just saved Brasier's butt. Even Mancini tips his hat to him.

As a frequent Bradley critic I say without hesitation that the catch he made last night was as good as I have even seen.  Not trying to impress with some hyperbole but what's right is right.  That was the best catch I have ever seen.  He won the game with it----rather he kept us from losing it.  Now Jack, will you just start hitting some and stop trying to pull every damn pitch.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: SeaBeachFred on May 09, 2019, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on May 08, 2019, 10:37:05 PM
Cora had a very interesting and telling post game interview.  IMO He basically didn't deny there were clubhouse issues and tensions but kind implied that this win will help the club move on. 

I confess I am finding Cora too smug and condescending for my tastes.  If there are clubhouses tensions I am thinking he is more a part of the problem and not part of the solution.

I still believe Elk that the White House trip today has been a source of dissension in the clubhouse.  There must be some players who will not accept the right to disagree on a policy that should have nothing to do with baseball.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 09, 2019, 05:10:03 PM
Chris Mad Dog Russo on High Heat on Mlb today put the onus on the front office for not getting everyone on the same page on this back in ST. Quite frankly, I believe this fiasco is actually a symptom of a much bigger issue.  I may be all alone on this but I think there are guys on this team who are starting to question Cora's judgment.  Jim Palmer the Orioles HOF pitcher and broadcaster insinuated that Sales wasn't happy about the way he was treated in ST. Sales was embarrassed early this year because he was not permitted to get the proper work to be ready to start the season.
Again I know I am in a distinct minority on this but IMO JBJ saved Cora's butt by that catch. If the Sox had lost that series I would be starting the call for Cora's firing.  I may becoming an old grouch but I do not like the way Cora manages this team.  He was incredibly lucky last year and the percentages are bound to catch up with him. We will see how it turns out but remember John Farrell won his 1st year in Boston.  Let's see if Cora is another one year wonder.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: longgame on May 10, 2019, 07:58:40 AM
I don't see any reason to call for Cora's firing, but I think there has to be something said about spring training.  He also needs to show leadership, not petulance, in a situation like the White House visit.  Sure seemed like the guys who went had a good time. 
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: elktonnick on May 10, 2019, 08:56:25 AM
I think petulant is a very good description of Cora.  To me the White House visit fiasco is just a symptom of the bigger problem.  If the whole White House visit issue had never happened I still would feel the same about Cora managerial style.  If this club fails to get into the playoffs I'd fire him immediately upon their elimination from contention.  I hope it doesn't come to that but that's my opinion.
Title: Re: GAME #38, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Post by: longgame on May 10, 2019, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on May 10, 2019, 08:56:25 AM
I think petulant is a very good description of Cora.  To me the White House visit fiasco is just a symptom of the bigger problem.  If the whole White House visit issue had never happened I still would feel the same about Cora managerial style.  If this club fails to get into the playoffs I'd fire him immediately upon their elimination from contention.  I hope it doesn't come to that but that's my opinion.

From what I've heard though the clubhouse is pretty good.  But we all know it's a fine line between a good clubhouse atmosphere and the players ruling the roost.  That may be the toughest part of the game today, the players win and think their stuff doesn't stink and heck, if someone is paying them millions of dollars, why wouldn't you think that way?  You need to keep them loose to win, but too loose and you get chicken and beer. 

I'm just glad this distraction is over.