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Title: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 06, 2019, 08:06:07 AM
4:10pm Eastern

RED SOX


Rick Porcello (R)

1. Mookie Betts (R) RF
2. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
3. Christian Vazquez (R) DH
4. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
5. Michael Chavis (R) 1B
6. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
7. Brock Holt (L) SS
8. Marco Hernandez (L) 2B
9. Sandy Leon (S) C

TIGERS

Jordan Zimmermann (R)

1. Victor Reyes (S) CF
2. Nicholas Castellanos (R) RF
3. Miguel Cabrera (R) DH
4. Christin Stewart (L) LF
5. Jeimer Candelario (S) 3B
6. Harold Castro (L) 1B
7. Niko Goodrum (S) SS
8. Gordon Beckham (R) 2B
9. Bobby Wilson (R) C


Gametime Temp: 82°F
Chance of Precip: 20%
Title: Re: GAME #89, FRIDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 06, 2019, 10:42:52 AM
Quote from: Schloicka on July 06, 2019, 08:06:07 AM
4:10pm Eastern

RED SOX


Rick Porcello (R)


Lineup Pending





TIGERS

Jordan Zimmermann (R)


Lineup Pending




Gametime Temp: 82°F
Chance of Precip: 20%

Just wondering Ted if Porcello can go out there and not give up a dozen hits and become a human pinata again.  He needs to finally nail it down and give us some solid starting pitching-----like how about a seven inning stalwart performance that leads to a win for us.  He hasn't pitched worth a damn most of the year and we can sure use a few good games from him.  I think that would be swell.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Bill-806 on July 06, 2019, 02:34:48 PM
RAFFY DEVERS is making MOOKIE look good, AGAIN !!!  Also, with his #11, looking more like FRANK MALZONE at 3rd base ?????  Go get them BOYS !!!! rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 06, 2019, 04:16:27 PM
Porcello is in a lose-lose situation. He's in a contract year.  Mgt. I understand has dismissed his attempts to get an offer.  If he doesnt get his  game back on track, he'd be lucky to get half his current salary elsewhere.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 06, 2019, 07:26:39 PM
And the game is finally under way. 4 hours late. Sox up 2-0 after 1/2 an inning.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 06, 2019, 07:31:28 PM
Noisy bats by the Sox.  Mookie and Chavis doing work with Devers bringing Mookie home,
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 08:50:33 PM
Even a 7-0 lead isn't safe.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 09:28:14 PM
Sox are going to blow this. BP time and 2 runs is not enough.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: elktonnick on July 06, 2019, 09:32:53 PM
One could see that Porcello was losing it in the sixth.  His breaking balls weren't as sharp as earlier.  I have my own theories as to why he isn't as effective as last year and before but that's for another time.  Once again the manager waited too long to pull him.  In one sense it is understandable given how poorly the pen has been.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: elktonnick on July 06, 2019, 09:45:25 PM
Manager Neuman decides to pinch hit Nunez for Holt who had 2 hits,  Replacing Holt's defense for Nunez's to me is a risky move.  Let's see if it backfires.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
Betts with a long at bat. Can't hit anything into fair territory, though.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Murph on July 06, 2019, 09:56:48 PM
Porcello with each outing making the FO already made decision to say goodbye a very easy one.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 09:57:13 PM
Finally walks. Bases loaded, one out. Need more runs here. At least Raffy's up. Maybe he can handle this.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 09:59:11 PM
Wow, Farmer blew that one big time. Sox get a gift run.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 10:02:16 PM
Argh, classic Red Sox GIDP with bases loaded ends the scoring chance.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
Think a 4-run lead is enough?
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 11:07:39 PM
Apparently so. Sox win 10-6.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: markj on July 06, 2019, 11:09:24 PM
Yanks lost, so Sox gain a game.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 06, 2019, 11:10:18 PM
Good win. On to Sunday at 1pm.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: elktonnick on July 06, 2019, 11:18:44 PM
Sox won against the hapless Tigers who have one more win than the more hapless Orioles.  If only they can only play the Os, Royals and Tigers then they may actually win a wildcard spot.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Murph on July 07, 2019, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on July 06, 2019, 11:18:44 PM
Sox won against the hapless Tigers who have one more win than the more hapless Orioles.  If only they can only play the Os, Royals and Tigers then they may actually win a wildcard spot.

Yeah, but it won`t be easy.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 07, 2019, 08:21:57 AM
In a perfect world DD would strike a deal for Tigers' Shane Greene while he's in town.  However we can't finance it right now, let alone have the key prospects to start dealing.  Or will he?
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Bill-806 on July 07, 2019, 10:42:17 AM
WOW,  what a RAIN DELAY ……. Woke up in the 7th inning …….. Must keep winning, one at a time !!!
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 07, 2019, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 07, 2019, 08:21:57 AM
In a perfect world DD would strike a deal for Tigers' Shane Greene while he's in town.  However we can't finance it right now, let alone have the key prospects to start dealing.  Or will he?

Well he didn't and so we still have the same plethora of boobs, none of whom you can trust for near certain to go in there and not get their tits lit.  Shane Greene would have been a real improvement over thel ikes of the crew we have but for whatever reason DD held on to his cards----in this case a bunch of sick jokers.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: rkarp on July 08, 2019, 11:41:44 AM
I think a pen that consists of Wright, Hembree, Barnes, Eavoldi and Brazier has the potential to be top 5 in baseball
it is up to Cora and the starting P's to keep them fresh/effective
it will be challenging, as DD did not get them a true closer
simply put, if Sale and Porcello can find there "normal", and Johnson is healthy enough to take the ball every 5th day, this team will be in the wild card, and once in, anything can happen
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: elktonnick on July 08, 2019, 12:27:50 PM
Quote from: rkarp on July 08, 2019, 11:41:44 AM
I think a pen that consists of Wright, Hembree, Barnes, Eavoldi and Brazier has the potential to be top 5 in baseball
it is up to Cora and the starting P's to keep them fresh/effective
it will be challenging, as DD did not get them a true closer
simply put, if Sale and Porcello can find there "normal", and Johnson is healthy enough to take the ball every 5th day, this team will be in the wild card, and once in, anything can happen


Workman has been the Sox's most consistent reliever with a WHIP of 1.041 and the best ERA on the club at 1.79
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: rkarp on July 08, 2019, 01:56:45 PM
yes, you are 100% correct. I typed him in but misspelled his name. I then deleted and did not put him back
good catch
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: Murph on July 08, 2019, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on July 08, 2019, 12:27:50 PM
Quote from: rkarp on July 08, 2019, 11:41:44 AM
I think a pen that consists of Wright, Hembree, Barnes, Eavoldi and Brazier has the potential to be top 5 in baseball
it is up to Cora and the starting P's to keep them fresh/effective
it will be challenging, as DD did not get them a true closer
simply put, if Sale and Porcello can find there "normal", and Johnson is healthy enough to take the ball every 5th day, this team will be in the wild card, and once in, anything can happen


Workman has been the Sox's most consistent reliever with a WHIP of 1.041 and the best ERA on the club at 1.79

Workmans Achilles heel is to many BB.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 08, 2019, 04:31:19 PM
Who are we kidding here guys????  Karp says we don't have a closer---and when you don't have a real closer you have a gigantic bullpen problem.  Closer by Committee is an abject failure wherever it has been attempted and always will .  We tried it back in 2003 and it failed miserably and it isn't working now.  Perhaps when Nathan comes back, and Wright regains his form, and Workman learns his control, and Brasier stops giving up homers, and Barnes doesn't meatball away any more games, and maybe when pigs fly, we'll have a cracker jack bullpen.  But we don't have one now and it will net us nothing if we get a Wild Card berth this Fall and have to protect a one or two run lead late in the game this October.  WE NEED A @#$%&?+ CLOSER PERIOD  and at least two other  relievers who we can trust late in the game.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: longgame on July 09, 2019, 08:36:31 AM
Quote from: rkarp on July 08, 2019, 11:41:44 AM
I think a pen that consists of Wright, Hembree, Barnes, Eavoldi and Brazier has the potential to be top 5 in baseball
it is up to Cora and the starting P's to keep them fresh/effective
it will be challenging, as DD did not get them a true closer
simply put, if Sale and Porcello can find there "normal", and Johnson is healthy enough to take the ball every 5th day, this team will be in the wild card, and once in, anything can happen

I think the return of Hembree and Wright could be positives, but they can't wait forever for Eovaldi to return.  They've got that two weeks I've been talking about coming up.  We need someone on Thursday, not some point later in the season.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 09, 2019, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: longgame on July 09, 2019, 08:36:31 AM
Quote from: rkarp on July 08, 2019, 11:41:44 AM
I think a pen that consists of Wright, Hembree, Barnes, Eavoldi and Brazier has the potential to be top 5 in baseball
it is up to Cora and the starting P's to keep them fresh/effective
it will be challenging, as DD did not get them a true closer
simply put, if Sale and Porcello can find there "normal", and Johnson is healthy enough to take the ball every 5th day, this team will be in the wild card, and once in, anything can happen

I think the return of Hembree and Wright could be positives, but they can't wait forever for Eovaldi to return.  They've got that two weeks I've been talking about coming up.  We need someone on Thursday, not some point later in the season.

You think right Ted.  IF Wright regains his control and form he could be a big asset and I think Hembree has the stuff; it just amazes me that he still hasn't fully pieced together his total game with the stuff he has.  Something is still holding him back and I hope he finds it because we could use a good Hembree going out there and holding serve while we win some close games.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: elktonnick on July 09, 2019, 04:56:38 PM
Watch Hembree pitch.  He borders on indecision and a lack of confidence in his stuff.  He never looks like he is in command on the mound.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 09, 2019, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on July 09, 2019, 04:56:38 PM
Watch Hembree pitch.  He borders on indecision and a lack of confidence in his stuff.  He never looks like he is in command on the mound.

Could be Elk.  Something is holding him back and that could be as good a reach as anything.  It might help with some tough love or TLC from his ghost of a pitching coach.  I wonder what he sees.
Title: Re: GAME #89, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 2019, BOSTON RED SOX @ DETROIT TIGERS
Post by: rkarp on July 10, 2019, 07:50:29 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on July 09, 2019, 04:56:38 PM
Watch Hembree pitch.  He borders on indecision and a lack of confidence in his stuff.  He never looks like he is in command on the mound.

Hembree has no secondary pitches. never has. he is a fastball only pitcher. he tops out at 94/95. unless he is locating his fastball with precision, he is hit-able. that has been his mo... always