RED SOX V BLUE JAYS
SUNDAY, JULY 2, 2017, 1 PM AT ROGERS CENTRE
TV: NESN, SNET
BOSTON, (46-35).................................................................................TORONTO, (37-43)
BOSTON:
DREW POMERANZ, LHP, 7-4, 3.81 ERA, 89K
In his last three starts, the southpaw has strung together some of his best
outings of the season, going 1-0 with a 1.3 ERA and 16 strikeouts over 17 2/3
innings. He lowered his season ERA from 4.48 to 3.81 during this stretch.
TORONTO:
JOE BIAGINI, RHP, 2-7, 4.50 ERA 56K
This is expected to be Biagini's final start before he gives way to the rehabbing
Aaron Sanchez. He is 2-6 with a 4.93 ERA in ten starts and in his last outing he allowed
three runs over 5 1/3 innings to Baltimore.
Pomeranz, Sox eye sweep in Toronto
Keegan Matheson
Drew Pomeranz will take the mound for the Red Sox on Sunday afternoon in Toronto as they wrap up their three-game series against Joe Biagini and the Blue Jays. Boston won the first two.
Pomeranz has been a source of stability for Boston this season, having allowed more than two earned runs in just three of his 15 starts. The left-hander has strung together three good outings in a row, giving up three earned runs over his past 17 2/3 innings.
In Pomeranz's previous outing against the Twins, he was forced to sit through a one hour and 16 minute rain delay and otherwise would have been able to pitch deeper. Regardless, he shut out Minnesota for his five innings and struck out seven batters.
This could be Biagini's final start in the Blue Jays' rotation, as a return to the bullpen looms. Aaron Sanchez is scheduled to pitch on Sunday for Toronto's Triple-A affiliate, the Buffalo Bisons, and is expected to return from the disabled list in this rotation spot the next trip through.
After a promising debut as a starter in early May, Biagini has been inconsistent, with an ERA of 4.93 in his 10 starts. As a reliever, the right-hander owns a 3.38 ERA with an opponent OPS of .585 in 14 games. In Biagini's last outing, he allowed three earned runs over 5 1/3 innings of work against the Orioles, while walking an uncharacteristic four batters.
THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME
• Kendrys Morales was given a rare day off on Saturday with Josh Donaldson getting the start at DH, but he'll be back in the lineup Sunday. Morales has hit just .197 over 66 at-bats with runners in scoring position, which has been magnified, considering he was brought in to be a run producer behind Donaldson and Jose Bautista. Morales will be happy to see a lefty on the mound, however, as he's posted an .898 OPS against them this season.
• Toronto's bullpen has been one of the most-used units in the American League this season, but entered Saturday's game with a 3.77 ERA , having struck out over one batter per inning. The Blue Jays have needed to shuffle their relief corps recently, calling up Rule 5 pick Glenn Sparkman on Friday and Lucas Harrell on Saturday. Both right-handers could provide the Blue Jays with some length if Biagini runs into trouble.
• After making his 13th 4-star catch of the season on Thursday, Mookie Betts entered this series just one 4-star catch shy of Byron Buxton for the Major League lead, according to Statcast. He's yet to record a 5-star grab, but did enter the series tied with Ender Inciarte for the most 3-star catches (15).
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170701239864118/pomeranz-sox-eye-sweep-in-toronto/?game_pk=491324
Finale in Toronto.
Betts RF,
Pedroia 2B,
Bogaerts SS,
Moreland 1B,
Bradley Jr. CF,
Ramirez DH,
Benintendi LF,
Vázquez C,
Lin 3B,
Pomeranz.
Finally in 1st place .1 game up on the Yanks.I only care what is seen in the loss column.Thats what get you to October.
In Spring training, if someone told me that the sox would be in first place in early July with Pom Pom second on the team with wins...... well, baseball can be quite interesting sometimes. 8)
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 02, 2017, 09:04:30 AM
In Spring training, if someone told me that the sox would be in first place in early July with Pom Pom second on the team with wins...... well, baseball can be quite interesting sometimes. 8)
Yes, BASEBALL is like a Saturday night date, sometimes you win, sometimes you loose, but you must SCORE !!!
Sox have the 3rd best ERA in the majors behind the Bums Ariz.Can't recall that happening at the half way mark.Good job ny Willis and JF.
I don't know about you Bill. I won't ask you to explain your post.
I notice that Andrew Benintendi has been dropped to seventh in the batting order in addition to being platooned regularly now. I think the Red Sox are playing with fire here. When the season began he was rated as the No. 1 Prospect in all baseball. You do NOT handle a young and upcoming talent like this because it is dangerous and stupid. He should be batting second and kept in the lineup. You don't learn to hit lefties unless you play against them just as Jackie has been able to learn to do. No one else seems to be noticing this just as seemingly none of you got concerned when the fix came in last fall and Travis Shaw was traded so that Pablo Porky could be handed third base again. We now know that was a disaster just as I predicted it would be. Now we are screwing around with Benintendi.
On another more pleasant matter, we couldn't seem to get 10 games above 500 nor get into first place by more than percentage points. Well we seem to have done that now, and hopefully it is not temporary thing. Now how about sweeping a three game series. We haven't done that much since 2013 and we have a chance to do that today. Please, let's just do it.
Xman out with a groin injury. He's listed as day to day..................but then again aren't we all?
Benitendi moved up in the lineup, I guess because Bogey is out. I like Bradley in the 5 spot as long as he remains hot.
Hanley now up with 2 on in the first. Let's hope he can mash one.
Well Hanley came through - Sox establish an early 1-0 lead!
Nice triple by Lin. He set Betts up for the 2 out RBI. Interesting the Sox are 9 games over .500 when Marrero starts. 21-12.
Be nice to get Ramirez home from 3rd here.
As Eck said. 2 bunts and a blast. 5-1 Sox.
Mookie!!! And well done to Lin and Marrero with those bunts.
s DAD would say, "SON, the KIDS look pretty good out there, how ya going to keep them down on the FARM " ??????
Pomerantz living well. Gets the DP to end the threat in the 5th. Still 5-1 Sox.
Betts is hot right now. Let's see how deep Pom can go.
Need to sign Marrero long term. Keeps setting up Betts for the HR. 7-1 Sox end of the 6th.
Pomerantz done after 6 innings with 104 pitches and 1 earned run. Great job today.
AB looked lost up there just now. 3Ks and an error. That'll cost him. I didn't see the first 2 Ks and the error, so can't comment. Funny the home broadcast I am stuck watching is talking about the Shaw situation and how Shaw feels he's settled down with playing every day and it's paying off. I started tea kettling. Errors aside, he was an adequate 3b. Not a GG'er by any means, but not a liability until JF got into his head and he started pulling a Knoblauch thing with his throws. I blame that whole situation on management. Nice job!!!
If JF's ascertain that he needs to get Chris Young the AB's, why not then give JBJ and Betts the occasional day off and spread it around so that it doesn't look like a platoon. He learned this crap from Francona. Look how long it took to get Tito to leave Ellsbury in?
grrrrrr
Anyhow, that rant not-withstanding, this team is tough to set up a batting order. Especially as we've lost AB for a while.
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 02, 2017, 02:37:46 PM
AB looked lost up there just now. 3Ks and an error. That'll cost him. I didn't see the first 2 Ks and the error, so can't comment. Funny the home broadcast I am stuck watching is talking about the Shaw situation and how Shaw feels he's settled down with playing every day and it's paying off. I started tea kettling. Errors aside, he was an adequate 3b. Not a GG'er by any means, but not a liability until JF got into his head and he started pulling a Knoblauch thing with his throws. I blame that whole situation on management. Nice job!!!
If JF's ascertain that he needs to get Chris Young the AB's, why not then give JBJ and Betts the occasional day off and spread it around so that it doesn't look like a platoon. He learned this crap from Francona. Look how long it took to get Tito to leave Ellsbury in?
grrrrrr
Anyhow, that rant not-withstanding, this team is tough to set up a batting order. Especially as we've lost AB for a while.
The error was a little league error. He was in perfect position to catch the fly ball and just missed it off the end of his glove. Was a easy catch until he didn't catch it. Not going to take out Betts and JBJ while their hot. I think Benintendi needs to be more aggressive. Taking to many pitches. Young will get at bats but Benintendi still has been playing most of the time. If he wants to play more hit better.
13-1 ??? I will see "use guys/gals in OCTOBER" !!! thumb_u rofl
Nice old-fashioned blowout. And there goes Hanley!
Another good outing by our solid#2 starter.
Pen will probably give up a few runs with this big lead just trying to throw strikes. Will trade a few runs for 9 outs.
15-1 ??? We may not loose another game this year !!! thumb_u rofl
Quote from: Schloicka on July 02, 2017, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 02, 2017, 02:37:46 PM
AB looked lost up there just now. 3Ks and an error. That'll cost him. I didn't see the first 2 Ks and the error, so can't comment. Funny the home broadcast I am stuck watching is talking about the Shaw situation and how Shaw feels he's settled down with playing every day and it's paying off. I started tea kettling. Errors aside, he was an adequate 3b. Not a GG'er by any means, but not a liability until JF got into his head and he started pulling a Knoblauch thing with his throws. I blame that whole situation on management. Nice job!!!
If JF's ascertain that he needs to get Chris Young the AB's, why not then give JBJ and Betts the occasional day off and spread it around so that it doesn't look like a platoon. He learned this crap from Francona. Look how long it took to get Tito to leave Ellsbury in?
grrrrrr
Anyhow, that rant not-withstanding, this team is tough to set up a batting order. Especially as we've lost AB for a while.
The error was a little league error. He was in perfect position to catch the fly ball and just missed it off the end of his glove. Was a easy catch until he didn't catch it. Not going to take out Betts and JBJ while their hot. I think Benintendi needs to be more aggressive. Taking to many pitches. Young will get at bats but Benintendi still has been playing most of the time. If he wants to play more hit better.
I'd like to see JF have one of those blow-ups by protecting one of his many young players from the umpires doing the traditional widen the plate for the rookie batters routine. AB and Travis have both had some recent WTF was that type of calls against them.
I was quite unimpressed (PO'd) with an early season mis-play AB had in CF. He was doing that play it cool thing and didn't get into position well back near the
Mahnstah. It took 5 minutes for OB and Remy to call him out on it.
Back on today's game, the sox could help themselves now by laying down and not stressing the Jay's pen out. The Jays play the Yanks next, yes?
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 02, 2017, 03:06:14 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on July 02, 2017, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 02, 2017, 02:37:46 PM
AB looked lost up there just now. 3Ks and an error. That'll cost him. I didn't see the first 2 Ks and the error, so can't comment. Funny the home broadcast I am stuck watching is talking about the Shaw situation and how Shaw feels he's settled down with playing every day and it's paying off. I started tea kettling. Errors aside, he was an adequate 3b. Not a GG'er by any means, but not a liability until JF got into his head and he started pulling a Knoblauch thing with his throws. I blame that whole situation on management. Nice job!!!
If JF's ascertain that he needs to get Chris Young the AB's, why not then give JBJ and Betts the occasional day off and spread it around so that it doesn't look like a platoon. He learned this crap from Francona. Look how long it took to get Tito to leave Ellsbury in?
grrrrrr
Anyhow, that rant not-withstanding, this team is tough to set up a batting order. Especially as we've lost AB for a while.
The error was a little league error. He was in perfect position to catch the fly ball and just missed it off the end of his glove. Was a easy catch until he didn't catch it. Not going to take out Betts and JBJ while their hot. I think Benintendi needs to be more aggressive. Taking to many pitches. Young will get at bats but Benintendi still has been playing most of the time. If he wants to play more hit better.
I'd like to see JF have one of those blow-ups by protecting one of his many young players from the umpires doing the traditional widen the plate for the rookie batters routine. AB and Travis have both had some recent WTF was that type of calls against them.
I was quite unimpressed (PO'd) with an early season mis-play AB had in CF. He was doing that play it cool thing and didn't get into position well back near the Mahnstah. It took 5 minutes for OB and Remy to call him out on it.
Back on today's game, the sox could help themselves now by laying down and not stressing the Jay's pen out. The Jays play the Yanks next, yes?
3 game series coming up with Toronto and Yanks. Hopefully Toronto will take out their frustration on the Yanks.
While the team is playing extremely well right now, one has to be particularly impressed by Morrero. His defense has always been solid but he has been tearing the cover off the ball at the plate the last few days.
Quote from: elktonnick on July 02, 2017, 03:20:29 PM
While the team is playing extremely well right now, one has to be particularly impressed by Morrero. His defense has always been solid but he has been tearing the cover off the ball at the plate the last few days.
He looks pretty good when he is trying to go up the middle and to right field. Right now he and Lin look decent.
Serious stomping here. If the score holds, the Sox will have outscored the Jays 29-6 in this series. Ouch.
'Stros are up 6-0 over NYY in the 7th, so the Sox can put some distance between themselves and the rest of the ALE today.
Nice complete win. On to Texas.
Yanks losing could mean Sox be up 2 full games.
3 full games, I believe. They were up 2 coming into today.
I dread Sox trips to play the Rangers in Texas. Seems like it rarely goes will, but I don't have the numbers. Too scary. ;D
Quote from: markj on July 02, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
3 full games, I believe. They were up 2 coming into today.
You know me, Mark, I am only concerned about the loss.column.A team trailing especially in September can make up Ws but not Ls.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 02, 2017, 04:09:50 PM
Quote from: markj on July 02, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
3 full games, I believe. They were up 2 coming into today.
You know me, Mark, I am only concerned about the loss.column.A team trailing especially in September can make up Ws but not Ls.
I suspected that's where you were going. And you're right, in the end, the losses are what matters.
Looks like it will be 2 up in the loss column and 4 up in the win column after today. Big 4 game series with the Yanks coming out of the break so need to play very well before it. Sox off to an excellent start on the 10 game road trip.
Quote from: markj on July 02, 2017, 04:13:26 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 02, 2017, 04:09:50 PM
Quote from: markj on July 02, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
3 full games, I believe. They were up 2 coming into today.
You know me, Mark, I am only concerned about the loss.column.A team trailing especially in September can make up Ws but not Ls.
I suspected that's where you were going. And you're right, in the end, the losses are what matters.
My son thinks I am way to "old school".He is probably right but I won`t tell him that.
Nice start to the trip.Now the Rangers TB then ASB and home series with Yanks and Toronto.
Pomeranz now with a respectful 3.64 ERA.
On May 9th he had 5.23 ERA.The guy deserves a ton of credit for turning his season around.
Looks like Porcello Price and Fister to face the Rangers.
After 82 games last year they were 45-37.
47 -35 this year.
And by a strange rule ABAD got credit for a SAVE for pitching 3 innings and not giving up the lead. Guess it was a better game than I thought. Take a save any way you can get it.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 02, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
After 82 games last year they were 45-37.
47 -35 this year.
With out BIG PAPI, J F is a genius !!! thumb_u rofl
Quote from: Bill-806 on July 02, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 02, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
After 82 games last year they were 45-37.
47 -35 this year.
With out BIG PAPI, J F is a genius !!! thumb_u rofl
If I recall correctly, Papi was much more effective after the ASB last year. Didn't he have a pretty crappy spring?
Quote from: markj on July 02, 2017, 01:26:12 PM
Mookie!!! And well done to Lin and Marrero with those bunts.
That was winning type baseball that inning markj. And for the last few games Mookie has gone into action in a big way. He was just floating along for a long while and now he seems like the catalyst he is supposed to me. He looked like hell last weekend against the Angels but he seems to have picked things up the past two series and the team seems to be following suit. That is what we need----and keep it up for the rest of the trip. Hanley too....maybe is mending enough to become a stalwart in our lineup, and, needles to say, we need him too.....and at DH. Let's not get any ideas of putting him on first and risk another injury.
Quote from: elktonnick on July 02, 2017, 03:20:29 PM
While the team is playing extremely well right now, one has to be particularly impressed by Morrero. His defense has always been solid but he has been tearing the cover off the ball at the plate the last few days.
That is a complete turnaround and a total surprise.....a very pleasant one. Maybe a few hits has jacked up his confidence and he can keep contributing on the offensive side of the ball. You just never know in this game. Surprises come from all sides.....this one a pleasant one.
Quote from: markj on July 02, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on July 02, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 02, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
After 82 games last year they were 45-37.
47 -35 this year.
With out BIG PAPI, J F is a genius !!! thumb_u rofl
If I recall correctly, Papi was much more effective after the ASB last year. Didn't he have a pretty crappy spring?
Papi had a season for the ages beginning to end. I just looked at the game log on baseball reference. He "slumped" mid April, BA down to .269 4/22, but climbed to .313 a week later and never looked back.
I didn't look up team splits or anything, but JF's bullpen was losing a game a week it seemed like, not matter what he tried. His young team got wound up like a top and didn't it together until Pedey went to lead off. By then, JBJ and Budding Super-Star were toast and brought Leon with them. The one super maddening thing is similar to this year. Sweeping a series was something it seemed like they were loathe to do. Getaway BA must have been under the Marrero Line.
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 02, 2017, 03:49:26 PM
I dread Sox trips to play the Rangers in Texas. Seems like it rarely goes will, but I don't have the numbers. Too scary. ;D
Be that as it may MLS, we have to go there and we have to play the Rangers in their home digs, and we have to do the job of keeping up the good work of the past seven games. Tomorrow could be a challenge because, let's face it, Porcello hasn't pitched worth a damn save for the Angel game in his last six or seven starts. A great showing from him tomorrow and a continuation of our improved hitting can help keep this trip a good one. We finally got into first place with a drop or two to spare and it would be a very good idea not to let is all slip away with slipshod play. Just go our there and do what needs to be done.
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on July 02, 2017, 08:11:08 PM
Quote from: markj on July 02, 2017, 01:26:12 PM
Mookie!!! And well done to Lin and Marrero with those bunts.
That was winning type baseball that inning markj. And for the last few games Mookie has gone into action in a big way. He was just floating along for a long while and now he seems like the catalyst he is supposed to me. He looked like hell last weekend against the Angels but he seems to have picked things up the past two series and the team seems to be following suit. That is what we need----and keep it up for the rest of the trip. Hanley too....maybe is mending enough to become a stalwart in our lineup, and, needles to say, we need him too.....and at DH. Let's not get any ideas of putting him on first and risk another injury.
Yup. Mookie is finally coming around to 2016 form which is a BIG deal. If both he and Hanley pick up the pace finally, we have the threats that we need from this offense. Not to mention JBJ has picked up the pace. These are the guys we need for the big hits. Let's keep it rolling. No way would they be dumb enough to put Hanley on 1B. Moreland is more than fine there. If Marrero keeps hitting it like he does - indeed, would be the nicest surprise.
Hanley was predicting a July run of wins. Let's hope he's right.
Lets not all get to to overboard with EXCITEMENT.As well as they played recently we SHOULD understand that BAD PLAY we also be in the mix.
There is nothing in Marrero's resume to feel he will continue to hit but he was a key the last few games.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 03, 2017, 07:18:03 AM
Lets not all get to to overboard with EXCITEMENT.As well as they played recently we SHOULD understand that BAD PLAY we also be in the mix.
There is nothing in Marrero's resume to feel he will continue to hit but he was a key the last few games.
B I N G O Dat !!!!
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 03, 2017, 07:18:03 AM
Lets not all get to to overboard with EXCITEMENT.As well as they played recently we SHOULD understand that BAD PLAY we also be in the mix.
There is nothing in Marrero's resume to feel he will continue to hit but he was a key the last few games.
Rob, you're absolutely right on that score. This team has proven that it can rise up and slow down with the best of them. In fact, until the last full week this team was running in place with too many players going south with the bat, glove and their brains with stupid all around play. These last two series have been needed badly but the rest of this road trip still has to be played before you, I or anyone else should start thumping their chests. We've seen this team go into the tank before, many many times. One good point is that we played better in the last two series that we have all season so maybe at last the best of the Red Sox is beginning to show up and making their presence felt. But right now the jury must still be out.
Quote from: Schloicka on July 02, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
And by a strange rule ABAD got credit for a SAVE for pitching 3 innings and not giving up the lead. Guess it was a better game than I thought. Take a save any way you can get it.
I was just reading about that rule the other day. It used to be automatic if you went 3 and finished and didn't give up the lead, but now the pitcher has to pitch well enough and the scorer is allowed some discretion - i.e. if he gave up a bunch of runs he may not get the save.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 03, 2017, 07:18:03 AM
Lets not all get to to overboard with EXCITEMENT.As well as they played recently we SHOULD understand that BAD PLAY we also be in the mix.
There is nothing in Marrero's resume to feel he will continue to hit but he was a key the last few games.
It's also one thing to beat Toronto who has been stinking it up. The Rangers aren't great but you never know there. I've got my eye on the visit to Tampa just before the ASB.