7:10 PM EDT
Red Sox
Eduardo Rodriguez (L)
1. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
2. Mookie Betts (R) RF
3. Mitch Moreland (L) 1B
4. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
5. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
6. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
7. Michael Chavis (R) 2B
8. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
9. Christian Vazquez (R) C
Tigers
Tyson Ross (R)
1. Jeimer Candelario (S) 3B
2. Nicholas Castellanos (R) RF
3. Miguel Cabrera (R) 1B
4. Niko Goodrum (S) LF
5. Brandon Dixon (R) DH
6. Ronny Rodriguez (R) SS
7. Gordon Beckham (R) 2B
8. Grayson Greiner (R) C
9. JaCoby Jones (R) CF
Chavis back in. Vaz behind the plate. Why not move Mookie back to 1st in the lineup? It seems like we tried this two years ago and had the same result. For whatever reason he thrives in the leadoff spot. Maybe bat Bogey third even though they want a lefty-righty thing coming into Martinez? They need to do something to shake this up, not just keep running out the same thing.
If Chavis can keep hitting he's going to earn this spot and Pedey's rehab is going to take longer. In the meantime, I think it's more and more evident that Leon, 0 - 2019, just has no business belonging in an MLB lineup. That fiasco yesterday where you have to pull him for a lefty to face a lefty is just too much. Maybe Holt, Nunez and Leon for a relief arm and a backup catcher?
Oh and will somebody buy JBJ glasses? Once again he clearly can't see the ball and only manages to make contact with men on base so he can GIDP. The rest of the time he (and Mookie for that matter) watch great pitches sail by, swing at crap away and then watch strike 3 down the middle.
I'm a JBJ fan but at some point he either needs to hit or go away. He's a great outfielder but there is no way his defense can make up for his lack of hitting. Especially when the rest of the team is struggling. It's obvious he's just never going to be a consistent hitter. I'm not asking for much. Just be able to hit .250 - .260.
Quote from: Schloicka on April 24, 2019, 04:04:43 PM
I'm a JBJ fan but at some point he either needs to hit or go away. He's a great outfielder but there is no way his defense can make up for his lack of hitting. Especially when the rest of the team is struggling. It's obvious he's just never going to be a consistent hitter. I'm not asking for much. Just be able to hit .250 - .260.
B I N G O dat !!! I am with you ….. JBJ, great C F, but the bat is non existent ??? D D needs to look at some options ??? iono iono iono iono
Decent job by E-rod. Had good pace tonight.
Barnes retires two and then can't get an out. Tigers with two on in the 8th.
Bases loaded now.
Barnes gets out of it with a K.
Sox were odds on favorite to win tonight. Tigers' Ross has a 0-10 record against the ALEast. That said, we were probably ripe for the picking with our bats of late.
Barnes escapes, barely. It's going to be like this all year I think, until DD can admit he needs more arms.
Sure would be nice to see an insurance run or two.
Nice quick response to my request for insurance runs!
Or two! Good to see.
Detroit walks in a run. We'll take it.
Detroit RP finally throws a strike, but then walks in another run. And you thought our BP was bad.
This guy has thrown one strike and nine balls. Now ten.
Yet another walked-in run. 12 balls and just 1 strike. Bases still loaded.
Holy Cow, Detroit let this one get out of hand quickly.
Finally over. Sox up 11-1. Should be BP proof.
Thornburg with an 10 run lead still has trouble throwing strikes. Two walks in the inning so far.
This is all Thornburg is good for. Put him in with an 10 run lead and hope he can get 3 outs before it becomes a close game. Now it's 11-4. With 2 outs and an 10 run lead, he gives up 3 runs. Why on earth don't they DFA this clown?
Finally he gets out of the inning.
Quote from: markj on April 24, 2019, 09:35:03 PM
This is all Thornburg is good for. Put him in with an 11 run lead and hope he can get 3 outs before it becomes a close game. Now it's 11-4. With 2 outs and an 10 run lead, he gives up 3 runs. Why on earth don't they DFA this clown?
I was surprised when Thornburg made the club after ST. He hasn't gotten any better since.
More importantly, I was somewhat troubled by Barnes's statement that he tries to strike out everybody. If I were the manager and pitching coach I would try and disabuse him of that notion PDQ. We saw that when he needlessly loaded the bases in the eighth inning. He goes 0-2 on too many batters only to lose them with nibbling or throwing his in the dirt curve after curve trying to entice a swinging third strike. The Sox need to adopt the Kevin Brown approach namely entice the weak roll over grounder to second base.
I was surprised at LaVangie when named as the coach. He was a scout for many years and was our bullpen guy. But I don't think he was ever on the bench before ( I could have missed something). He made some good moves through the season last year, but this year it seems like all the coaches are trying to invent things all over.
Quote from: elktonnick on April 25, 2019, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: markj on April 24, 2019, 09:35:03 PM
This is all Thornburg is good for. Put him in with an 11 run lead and hope he can get 3 outs before it becomes a close game. Now it's 11-4. With 2 outs and an 10 run lead, he gives up 3 runs. Why on earth don't they DFA this clown?
I was surprised when Thornburg made the club after ST. He hasn't gotten any better since.
More importantly, I was somewhat troubled by Barnes's statement that he tries to strike out everybody. If I were the manager and pitching coach I would try and disabuse him of that notion PDQ. We saw that when he needlessly loaded the bases in the eighth inning. He goes 0-2 on too many batters only to lose them with nibbling or throwing his in the dirt curve after curve trying to entice a swinging third strike. The Sox need to adopt the Kevin Brown approach namely entice the weak roll over grounder to second base.
CONCUR, send Thornburg on his way !! iono iono
Quote from: elktonnick on April 25, 2019, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: markj on April 24, 2019, 09:35:03 PM
This is all Thornburg is good for. Put him in with an 11 run lead and hope he can get 3 outs before it becomes a close game. Now it's 11-4. With 2 outs and an 10 run lead, he gives up 3 runs. Why on earth don't they DFA this clown?
I was surprised when Thornburg made the club after ST. He hasn't gotten any better since.
More importantly, I was somewhat troubled by Barnes's statement that he tries to strike out everybody. If I were the manager and pitching coach I would try and disabuse him of that notion PDQ. We saw that when he needlessly loaded the bases in the eighth inning. He goes 0-2 on too many batters only to lose them with nibbling or throwing his in the dirt curve after curve trying to entice a swinging third strike. The Sox need to adopt the Kevin Brown approach namely entice the weak roll over grounder to second base.
Thornburg sucks pure and simple. He is on the team only for two reasons, one of which makes no sense and is based on ego and misplaced pride. Our bullpen is so shitty that even a crud like the Thorn can find a place on the roster. The second reason is obvious to me. We traded Travis Shaw for him and pride and an unwillingness to admit a colossal mistake keeps him here. After all Shaw has become a 30 hom er, 100 RBI man for the Brewers and the hope is that somehow someway this POS might finally emerge as a credible reliever to save DD from embarrassment. Oh, and let's not let owner Henry off the hook. It was his plan all along to give third base to fatso Sandoval because of that contract, a rotten decision to the core. As it was the then befuddled owner then released Sandoval because of his total ineptness, and we're still paying Sandoval as we speak.
Quote from: Bill-806 on April 25, 2019, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 25, 2019, 08:47:04 AM
Quote from: markj on April 24, 2019, 09:35:03 PM
This is all Thornburg is good for. Put him in with an 11 run lead and hope he can get 3 outs before it becomes a close game. Now it's 11-4. With 2 outs and an 10 run lead, he gives up 3 runs. Why on earth don't they DFA this clown?
I was surprised when Thornburg made the club after ST. He hasn't gotten any better since.
More importantly, I was somewhat troubled by Barnes's statement that he tries to strike out everybody. If I were the manager and pitching coach I would try and disabuse him of that notion PDQ. We saw that when he needlessly loaded the bases in the eighth inning. He goes 0-2 on too many batters only to lose them with nibbling or throwing his in the dirt curve after curve trying to entice a swinging third strike. The Sox need to adopt the Kevin Brown approach namely entice the weak roll over grounder to second base.
CONCUR, send Thornburg on his way !! iono iono
As for Meatball Barnes this is no surprise. He always impressed me as not being the sharpest tool in the shed and his penchant for striking guys out goes lame when he starts bouncing curves in the dirt and nibbling to get his opponent to swing at a bad pitch. Most certainly the scouts know of his MOA and have cautioned their batters to beware of this kind of pi tching. Barnes also has trouble getting the first batter out and when he does he also usually fails to pitch a clean inning. He reminds me so much of Manny Delcarmen who the front office kept building up for the better part of six years until Theo Epstein finally threw in the towel and called him "a sunk cost." Thanks Theo, I was saying the same damn thing about him four years earlier. Needless to say I totally despise Delgarbage to this very day and even writing about him gives me a pain in my gut.
Thornburg either needs to accept assignment to AAA or retire. He's that bad. I think he did well in one game. Not too many (any?) reliable arms in that bullpen.