7:10pm Eastern
RED SOX
Rick Porcello (R)
1. Mookie Betts (R) RF
2. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
3. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
4. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
5. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
6. Sam Travis (R) 1B
7. Christian Vazquez (R) C
8. Michael Chavis (R) 2B
9. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
RAYS
Andrew Kittredge (R)
1. Ji-Man Choi (L) DH
2. Austin Meadows (L) LF
3. Travis d'Arnaud (R) C
4. Nate Lowe (L) 1B
5. Avisail Garcia (R) RF
6. Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF
7. Matt Duffy (R) 3B
8. Eric Sogard (L) 2B
9. Willy Adames (R) SS
Gametime Temp: 79°F
Chance of Precip: 28%
Porcello continues the disasters in the rotation. Two dingers in the 2nd. It's 5-0.
Not a good start. Good thing it's early.
SO - Porcello punched out two televisions after his first
inning allowing only ONE run, what is he going to do after
giving up FOUR runs in the second?
CRAP!
WHAT happened to this team that just last week took 2 out of 3 from Tampa
Bay IN Tampa Bay? And took 3 out of 4 from the Yankees?
THIS TEAM IS SO INCONSISTENT.
Just when you think they have turned a corner and maybe, just maybe
the second wild card is in sight - they blow.
This tonight is reason enought why DD absolutely did the right thing by doing NOTHING.Why get upset by losing now .Much better than getting crushed later on . Fair SP at best with bottom tier BP sets up in and out quickly.Hopefully with money off the books and not resigning some will bode for a better 2020.
Mookie K's looking at a pitch right down Broadway with Chavis 90ft away. Then Raffy grounds out to strand Chavis. Back to the No Clutch Hitting team we've seen for most of the season.
Porcello with a couple K's and then he gives up another dinger. Ugh.
Pathetic performance by entire ball club so far.
Do we all now know why the FO did nothing.
I could be wrong, but I think the players are aghast that no megastar is joining their team and are more or less pi$$ed. Sale voiced his displeasure in the spring that all of MLB was rejecting the free agents.
Yet management seems to be calling their bluff today. Play hard now with what you got, or other arrangements will take place.
3 runs down in the 9th with 2 on and Beni K's looking. Sort of the whole season in that one pitch. No. Clutch. Hitting.
Quote from: Murph on July 31, 2019, 07:15:21 PM
This tonight is reason enought why DD absolutely did the right thing by doing NOTHING.Why get upset by losing now .Much better than getting crushed later on . Fair SP at best with bottom tier BP sets up in and out quickly.Hopefully with money off the books and not resigning some will bode for a better 2020.
That is what we have to hope for Murph because this season is heading for a very bad conclusion, and DD was smart not to do anything because it is more than just the bullpen. The starters have cratered, our hitters hit out of sync and we seem to be just going through the motions out there. There should be a lot of money off the books this off season and that should include Porello, Hembree, and, yes, even Bradley who still cannot hit worth shit three-fourths of the time. I wouldn't moind seeing Barnes hit the pavement either along with Leon. DD has to be ruthless this winter and not be concerned with any pets Cora might have. And Cora needs to be told that another horseshit Spring Training regimen resembling the one we sucked through in March will allow more time for Alex to stay in Puerto Rico after he get canned for malfeasance. And, yes, a new pitching coach who knows what the hell he is doing.
We have four titles this century, more than any of the other teams and that is going to have to comfort us this winter because we just aren't going anywhere but home.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 31, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
I could be wrong, but I think the players are aghast that no megastar is joining their team and are more or less pi$$ed. Sale voiced his displeasure in the spring that all of MLB was rejecting the free agents.
Yet management seems to be calling their bluff today. Play hard now with what you got, or other arrangements will take place.
Well Sea Dog, if that was what management was attempting it fell flat as our team did on the field. Some of these guys need to be sent elsewhere after this season.
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on July 31, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 31, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
I could be wrong, but I think the players are aghast that no megastar is joining their team and are more or less pi$$ed. Sale voiced his displeasure in the spring that all of MLB was rejecting the free agents.
Yet management seems to be calling their bluff today. Play hard now with what you got, or other arrangements will take place.
Well Sea Dog, if that was what management was attempting it fell flat as our team did on the field. Some of these guys need to be sent elsewhere after this season.
B I N G O dat !!!! Again, TAMPA BAY & their OPENER shows the RED SOX how to PITCH in the NEW WORLD of JUICED BASEBALLS !!!! iono iono iono iono
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 31, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
I could be wrong, but I think the players are aghast that no megastar is joining their team and are more or less pi$$ed. Sale voiced his displeasure in the spring that all of MLB was rejecting the free agents.
Yet management seems to be calling their bluff today. Play hard now with what you got, or other arrangements will take place.
Megastars not coming in but be damn sure at least 1 under control will and should leave and will benefit the club going forward.
Murph is right on. Made no sense to fix the air pressure in the tires if the car can't got more than a couple of miles after you start it. I thought all of the NESN commentators, even though it was just supporting the company line, nailed it - this team, like any team, is built on your starters going at least 6 or 7 innings most night and leaving with a lead. That's always the plan unless you have a "starter" (getting tired of that crap already). If you pay guys 10s of millions of dollars per year, it's reasonable to expect some sort of consistent performance. If that part isn't working, why bother to address other parts? It's unrealistic to think the Sox can throw any more money at the starting pitcher problem as they pay more for their rotation than some teams pay for their entire payroll. DD said "get out there and play like you're paid".
As for the position players, I don't think they are affected by the lack of trades, I think they are more affected by trying to come back from a 5 run deficit. It's not easy to do because you have to play differently. The pen didn't help of course, but the offense keeps battling.
Starting to remind me of some of the Sox really bad seasons (this isn't one, we just know their potential after last year) where they get behind early and then can't catch up.
Quote from: Murph on August 01, 2019, 07:50:00 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 31, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
I could be wrong, but I think the players are aghast that no megastar is joining their team and are more or less pi$$ed. Sale voiced his displeasure in the spring that all of MLB was rejecting the free agents.
Yet management seems to be calling their bluff today. Play hard now with what you got, or other arrangements will take place.
Megastars not coming in but be damn sure at least 1 under control will and should leave and will benefit the club going forward.
I think I know who you're talking about. He has a temper and MAYBE COULD, YA NEVER KNOW be a problem in the clubhouse.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on August 01, 2019, 08:46:03 AM
Quote from: Murph on August 01, 2019, 07:50:00 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 31, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
I could be wrong, but I think the players are aghast that no megastar is joining their team and are more or less pi$$ed. Sale voiced his displeasure in the spring that all of MLB was rejecting the free agents.
Yet management seems to be calling their bluff today. Play hard now with what you got, or other arrangements will take place.
Megastars not coming in but be damn sure at least 1 under control will and should leave and will benefit the club going forward.
I think I know who you're talking about. He has a temper and MAYBE COULD, YA NEVER KNOW be a problem in the clubhouse.
INTERESTING ?? Lets play 20 QUESTIONS..... Are we talking about a PITCHER ???? iono iono iono iono iono iono
If you're talking about Price, I believe that option was only for last year and they're on the hook for slightly more than $30M per year through 2022.
I still wonder if there will be a reckoning with starting pitchers if they continue to pitch less both in terms of quantity and quality. Why should guys who pitch maybe 5 innings once a week and half the time perform badly make $30MM a year?
Quote from: longgame on August 01, 2019, 12:59:34 PM
If you're talking about Price, I believe that option was only for last year and they're on the hook for slightly more than $30M per year through 2022.
I still wonder if there will be a reckoning with starting pitchers if they continue to pitch less both in terms of quantity and quality. Why should guys who pitch maybe 5 innings once a week and half the time perform badly make $30MM a year?
No, my guess was the guy who can't get management to throw him a lifeline this year.