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The 2022 Trades

Started by MongoLikeSox, August 02, 2022, 07:05:03 AM

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MongoLikeSox

Maybe we pile them in one spot?

So far we've seen:
Vasquez gone for Houston's #29 & #30.
Deikman gone for a nothing hitting catcher and cash/PTBNL.
Pham in for cash/PTBNL.

Well, um, call this my initial reaction on the Diekman trade. If Wong is supposed to be so geed defensively, why isn't he promoted to learn the ropes with Plawecki? If we're going to have to deal with having a nothing hitting catcher, he had better be lord king stud behind the plate. Personally, I'd hoped Hernandez could get some time, too. Especially with 'Tek there to offer words of wisdom. Goes for Wong, too. I don't know anything about that Reese feller, but we should have gotten more for Diekman unless it was a pure salary dump. We'll see what that PTBNL is?

And on Pham: Does Bloom know anything about just how valuable clubhouse chemistry is? I can't wait to see Cora and him clash. Think that PR director is going to be able to keep Pham's mouth shut? Good luck! I hope I'm wrong, but talent does not bounce from team to team to team for no reason. (see AJ Pierzinski, Carl Everett and that reliever that wouldn't walk back to the dugout with his bullpen mates at the end.) This is the town that protested outside Fenway in the off season to persuade Henry to NOT go for A-Rod. I mean, come on!!!

On the Vasquez trade, I hate seeing him go. It's hard to see the forest for the trees with something like this happens. I'm seeing potential in the OF'er as an all around player, and we severely lack OF depth. The infielder has found hitting this year, but has been labeled as "fringy" on defense. All to be determined. Basically, we may have upgraded the Arauz spot? Fitzgerald should had it, but went into a 2 month and counting slump. Fringy defense does not mean a Franchy thing. Franchy is a legend on defense, a nickname away from being up there with "Dr Strange Glove". I hope he does not block Rafaela. Plus defender that can play anywhere type AND can hit.

I guess I'm not thrilled with the return yet? Bloom cautioned us to wait for the rest of the puzzle. Um, sure, but that doesn't mean you have to get questionable..... oh whatever.

longgame

Vaz didn't make a lot of sense, it's not like he's saving a bunch of bucks and the return is so-so, but they basically traded 2 months of Vaz for 2 prospects which is okay I guess.

Any move that got Diekmann off this team was good with me.   Plus they didn't give up anything for Pham, even though nobody can figure out the plan for him.  I'd rather have Duran out there and learning than Pham, but maybe he's a replacement for a JBJ trade?  None of these moves would seem to have any impact on a) this year or b) the future. 

MongoLikeSox

Quote from: longgame on August 02, 2022, 08:01:48 AM
Vaz didn't make a lot of sense, it's not like he's saving a bunch of bucks and the return is so-so, but they basically traded 2 months of Vaz for 2 prospects which is okay I guess.

Any move that got Diekmann off this team was good with me.   Plus they didn't give up anything for Pham, even though nobody can figure out the plan for him.  I'd rather have Duran out there and learning than Pham, but maybe he's a replacement for a JBJ trade?  None of these moves would seem to have any impact on a) this year or b) the future.
Diekman's last outing was unfortunate. His delivery looked more in control and straight at the hitter. The velocity was strong. Then he snapped off that back foot slider and it all went to hell after that. He's never been Mr Control. I guess he's sort of the poster child for the 'pen's struggles with the BB. 

I think he'll do better in Chicago, though not hugely better with BB department. Serviceable. I hope the PTBNL is worth something. I hate not giving our two AAA catchers a chance. Same principle as Duran getting needed experience.   

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As far as the Pham deal, there's some history  at Tampa with Bloo m and Pham.  He came to Rays from Cardinals in 18 or 19, and Bloom was impressed.. 

A caveat on "wait for the rest of the puzzle", Bloom said that last December after Renfroe for JBJ, then he did next to nothing after the new MLBPA contract was agreed to.

longgame

Soto and Bell both going to the Padres.  Pads going all in this year. 

Chaim Bloom could not be awoken to give a comment. 

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Quote from: longgame on August 02, 2022, 11:20:22 AM
Soto and Bell both going to the Padres.  Pads going all in this year. 

Chaim Bloom could not be awoken to give a comment.

Part of that deal was Hosmer to Nats.  But Hosmer had a no-trade clause for Nats.  Bob Nightengale said Hos is no longer in the deal, but it still goes forward.  A tidbit they could be looking for a third team to pick Hosmer and his 3 years @$18m AAV.

longgame

Does anyone know a team that needs a 1B?  ;D


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Quote from: longgame on August 02, 2022, 01:10:38 PM
Does anyone know a team that needs a 1B?  ;D

Jeff Sanders, a beat writer, tweeted that Hosmer is going to Red Sox.  There’s lots of crap on twitter.  Another confirmation is in order.

Mark Feinsand confirms it,

The Red Sox will acquire Eric Hosmer, per source. Hosmer rejected the trade to the Nationals earlier today. It remains to be seen whether the Padres will pick up a portion of Hosmer’s $39M, or perhaps send a prospect with him to Boston.

MongoLikeSox

In isolation, I just love me some Eric Hosmer at 1B. Big picture could be fascinating. Going to be interesting. Especially with Casas in the wings.

longgame

Something that actually makes sense.  Addresses a big hole at 1B and they don’t have to pay much.  They have him for 3 more years and could be a good piece to give Casas time to develop and then mentor him when he gets here.

MongoLikeSox

Verbiage on MLB.com states a significant amount of the $$ being paid the the Padres. Hopefully enough to make him moveable should Casas arise. TBD

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I think JDM stays on board. Looks like Bloom is still shopping our pitchers with about two hours left to trade.

Sources say they've (Phillies) talked to the Red Sox about Nathan Eovaldi and Rich Hill, and to the Giants about Carlos Rodon. And still in conversation with the Angels on Syndergaard.

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The pitcher Sox traded is Groome. To Padres. The kid had an up and down career with the Sox system.

Boston is acquiring prospects Corey Rosier and Max Ferguson, Cotillo reports.

3:59pm: There are multiple players involved in the deal, tweets Chris Cotillo of MassLive. Robert Murray of FanSided reports (on Twitter) that Boston is sending pitching prospect Jay Groome to San Diego.

MongoLikeSox

I don't really get this Hosmer deal. The other two we're getting look like toss-ins. We give up Groome for a position player we hope to not need next year?

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In the Groome deal I haven’t liked beyond their bios.  Both 23 yo. Ferguson was a 5th round draftee by Padres in2021. Played 2B, preseason all-American at Univ of Tenn.  Rosier , an OF, was picked in 12th round by Seatle in 2021 , to Padres in the Frazier deal.

New Red Sox 2B/SS/CF Max Ferguson was the Padres 5th rd. pick in 2021 out of Tennessee. This year in 432 PA in A/A+: .221/.365/.358 w/6 HR, 55 SB, 17.4% BB & 23.4% K. Best tools are speed & defense. Needs to get stronger. Bat is light & has struggled since he was promoted to A+.