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Started by elktonnick, July 25, 2022, 06:59:03 AM

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SeaBeachFred

Quote from: elktonnick on July 27, 2022, 05:51:53 PM
Fred I recently reviewed what Fenway Sports Group has been up to.  In December Henry finalized the deal to buy controlling interest in the Pittsburgh Penguins. The Boston sports media that Henry has become heavily involved in efforts to get LeBron James an NBA franchise.  All of this talk that Henry has told Kennedy and Bloom to cut expenses coincide with Henry's effort to buy NHL and NBA franchises and after his failed efforts to create a super league for European Soccer. Where has the money come from to buy NHL and NBA teams.  I suspect that Henry is leveraging both the Red Sox and Liverpool to finance his expansion into these other sports.  I suspect that is why he wants to cut expenses so he has a good looking balance sheet to get the funds needed to buy these other teams.

Sounds plausible to me Elk, but it begs the question....why not sell the Red Sox, grab the cash and move on to his hockey and basketball ventures.  The Red Sox no longer seem to be is main concern and for me that is a crime that is unforgiveable.  The Boston Press, if they have any guts and courage left, should be hammering him the way we've been doing and, again, if this is true, run his ass out of town.

elktonnick

I no longer believe he will sell the team because the Red Sox form the cornerstone of his empire.  It is the cash cow that allows him to wheel and deal into his other ventures


SeaBeachFred

Quote from: elktonnick on July 28, 2022, 02:17:37 AM
I no longer believe he will sell the team because the Red Sox form the cornerstone of his empire.  It is the cash cow that allows him to wheel and deal into his other ventures

Then God damn it Elk, people should show some guts and simply stop watching that shit show on TV and stop paying  money to watch  that crappy team play until they put money into their team, get the best coaches, manager and scouts and become a winner like they should always be.

elktonnick

Fred I think that is beginning to happen.  I am seeing more and more empty seats.  Unlike Orsillo and Remy.who.could make a bad game entertaining O'BRIEN is so dull it is hard to watch.  I suspect NESN s ratings are tanking

MongoLikeSox

I do believe OB's been talking our of both sides of his butt the past couple of nights. One night he's bestowing praise upon our on-base tactics of past great Red Sox teams. The next night he's bitchin' about JDM not hitting big power numbers, as he's done all year with about XB and JDM. Wakefield politely showed him the fallacy of his logic, discussing some of the ways good hitting is better than the inconsistent power game. I swear OB's response was whiny if anything else, nut I don't recall specifics.

I usually don't mind OB so much, but I'd really like to see lots more Youk in there splitting time with 'eck. The Jermais chemistry has been shaky and awkward at times. Not that I need some bimboleena with bouncy things in there, but I've liked the last few ladies we've had in there. (Heidi.....sigh!!!) I digress.


longgame

Wake was pretty dull last night too.  Eck is always lively and OB just does his usual sucking up to him. I thought when they had Millar in there too it was fun.   Youk is okay, he'll get the hang of it. I imagine it takes a while to master the job.  I wish they'd put Rice in there as he'd have something to say about everything! 

But we shouldn't have to be distracted by the announcers, we should have the team entertaining us with good ball.  As for watching them, I stayed with it last night because it was close, but usually I watch while I read for a few innings and a few nights have had enough and switched to something else.  It's not looking like it's going to get much better.  Next month has 12 games in the division, 3 with each of the 4 teams, plus 3 with Houston, so that's 15 games against far superior competition.  September sees 22 games in the division.  So that's well more than half of the remaining games being basically unwinnable with this team. 

longgame

Update on injuries.  They are hopeful Devers will be back by Tuesday.  Story is sill having discomfort so I'd say he's far away still.  Arroyo has been playing at Portland.

More on the pitchers in there too.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2022/07/boston-red-sox-injury-updates-trevor-story-still-feeling-discomfort-in-hand-when-he-swings.html

https://nesn.com/2022/07/red-sox-injury-updates-rich-hill-rafael-devers-trevor-story-others/

Sea Dog 23

I don't know where this Bloom train is going, maybe off the tracks.  But today he signed old standby Jose Peraza to play 2B in a minor league deal.  Santana was just signed for OF/IF.  There is some speculation that a multi-player trade is coming that would dispose of guys like JDM, Duran, Dalbec, the minor pieces would be needed to fill in the empty spots I guess. 

longgame

Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 29, 2022, 02:27:08 PM
I don't know where this Bloom train is going, maybe off the tracks.  But today he signed old standby Jose Peraza to play 2B in a minor league deal.  Santana was just signed for OF/IF.  There is some speculation that a multi-player trade is coming that would dispose of guys like JDM, Duran, Dalbec, the minor pieces would be needed to fill in the empty spots I guess.

Maybe he figures if he dismantles the team sooner rather than later people will forget by next season.

SeaBeachFred

Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 29, 2022, 02:27:08 PM
I don't know where this Bloom train is going, maybe off the tracks.  But today he signed old standby Jose Peraza to play 2B in a minor league deal.  Santana was just signed for OF/IF.  There is some speculation that a multi-player trade is coming that would dispose of guys like JDM, Duran, Dalbec, the minor pieces would be needed to fill in the empty spots I guess.

Peraza was shit for us in 2020 and was out of baseball, that's how crappy he was.  And Santana was pathetic while he was with us in '21.  Is this the kind of crap we can expect from Bloomer Boy? When we take back human baseball garbage like those two and couple it with bums like Cordero and Bradley, you know the team is in the pits.  Now what is needed is a complete boycott of RedSox games by fans, no watching this shit show in TV and the press declaring full scale war on Prune Face and the front office.  The team has become a total disgrace.  If Bloom was a horse he's be shot.

MongoLikeSox

Yeah, both of those guys stunk up the joint something fierce.

In a short term situation, it'd be easier to bring a couple guys up for emergencies whom you really don't care about when better players come back. Saves the promotion and subsequent DFA scenario of someone you might want. That aside, there is no value in those two, baseball wise.

I've given up on the wishful thinking thing. No more, "maybe they'll only use him/them for emergencies" thing. Not with Bloom, and not with buddies, chums and yes-man loving Cora.   

Sea Dog 23

As Ted suspected, they uncovered a worse diagnosis for Story today,

Trevor Story has a small hairline fracture near his wrist. He’s going to be shut down from swinging for 10-14 days, according to Cora. Second opinion with hand specialist revealed it.

MongoLikeSox

Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 30, 2022, 01:27:49 PM
As Ted suspected, they uncovered a worse diagnosis for Story today,

Trevor Story has a small hairline fracture near his wrist. He’s going to be shut down from swinging for 10-14 days, according to Cora. Second opinion with hand specialist revealed it.
This might be the final blow for the season. Not that we cannot win with Arroyo, but it's a lot of guys down.....

longgame

Radio guys were talking about how Atlanta last year was at a similar point and went out and got a whole new OF.  Clearly the Sox would have to do something of the same magnitude - 2 OFs and a 1B.  But they would still have no bullpen, assuming that the rotation which hasn’t won a game on over a month can somehow rebound.

It makes no sense to do too in terms of short term deals as there are just too many holes to plug and it’s hard to get a bargain on someone who may make an impact longer term at this time of year.

Sea Dog 23

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A deal with the Mets for a couple prospects might be a last gasp for Bloom. Two writers are hearing JDM and Vaz for AAA infielder Mark Vientos and catcher Thomas Nedo. Mets could throw in Dom Smith at 1B.   Bloom inquired about Vientos in 2020.
That ain’t much, and sounds more like telling your boss â€" I tried my best.