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Title: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 08:48:22 AM
7:10PM Eastern

Red Sox

Nick Pivetta (R)

1. Enrique Hernandez (R) 2B
2. Kyle Schwarber (L) DH
3. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
4. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
5. J.D. Martinez (R) LF
6. Alex Verdugo (L) CF
7. Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
8. Travis Shaw (L) 1B
9. Christian Vazquez (R) C

Twins

Bailey Ober (R)

1. Max Kepler (L) RF
2. Jorge Polanco (S) 2B
3. Josh Donaldson (R) DH
4. Luis Arraez (L) 3B
5. Miguel Sano (R) 1B
6. Nick Gordon (L) CF
7. Ryan Jeffers (R) C
8. Jake Cave (L) LF
9. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS

Gametime Temp: 80°F
Chance of Precip: 0%
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on August 25, 2021, 11:48:12 AM
Quote from: markj on August 25, 2021, 08:48:22 AM
7:10PM Eastern

Red Sox

Nick Pivetta (R)

Twins

Bailey Ober (R)

Gametime Temp: 80°F
Chance of Precip: 0%

Hey Pivetta, pound the strike zone and get ahead of the batters---and no meltdown as you did in the second inning of your last appearance against the Yankees.  We need to get our starting pitching in order since our bullpen is suddenly in disarray.  Good defense has been hard to come by and running the bases looks like a foreign aspect to them.  If we don toughen up in all areas Bloom has a lot ofwork to do this winter.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on August 25, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
The booth guys last night were suggesting that Schwarber COULD be playing 1B in today’s game.  Cora said as much, but said - in this series.  With a righty throwing for Twinks,  a good opportunity.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on August 25, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
I thought I had heard Thursday for Schwarber but could be wrong. 


On Pivetta, the other thing he has to do, unlike Houck last night, is not throw so many pitches in 4 innings, which of course throwing strikes will address.  He also has to go deep because who the heck are you going to run out in relief?  The press seems to be "excited" about Brasier sometime soon and I think the guy is a bum so go figure.  Robles looked good once, but I'll hold my breath until a pattern develops.  Ottavino and Sawamura are interesting because they are good but terribly inconsistent.  Ottavino simply loses the strike zone.  Sawamura all season has games where he looks like a 50-something year old guy in the hot sun doing yard work.  When he gets that way he falls off to 3B before he releases.  Whitlock, that one game notwithstanding has been the star of that group.

Barnes needs to go on the IL.  Permanently.  Too bad they signed him to a new deal - and he hasn't pitched well at all since - since the day he signed his deal he has 10ER in 10 1/3 for a 8.71 ERA but the real story is since that doubleheader against Toronto he has pitched 4 1/3 given up 11 hits, all 10 of those runs, 3 HRs and even 5 walks and an ERA of 20.79!

Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on August 25, 2021, 02:21:58 PM
Schwarber at DH, JDM in the field, which I always hate.  Shaw at 1B. 
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on August 25, 2021, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: longgame on August 25, 2021, 02:21:58 PM
Schwarber at DH, JDM in the field, which I always hate.  Shaw at 1B.

OK, now I’m convinced Cora is not playing with a full deck (not a baseball parlance).  I think Ron frikkin Roenicke could put up a better lineup card.
JD needs to DH, not playing the Monster, looking at film between bats. Verdugo struggles in CF, Kike’ is a natural CF. Renfroe is not the best RF in the ALE, but he’s a stud and has to play, period. I'll shut my mouth about who should have played LF all this year.

Ive read some things recently from other player interviews.  The Sox were considering Marcus Semian  as a free agent to play 2B/SS/3B.  Good average, has hit 30+ homers two of last three years.  Evidently he was not a good fit.  But Semian said they valued Kike' more because of his versatility, and signed him to a 2-year deal.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 06:40:21 PM
Pivetta looks like crap tonight. He managed to get out of the 1st inning jam he created. Now he's in another one.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on August 25, 2021, 06:44:49 PM
Nick gives a walk and a HBP.  I think I heard Pivetta is #3 in the AL in yielding walks.  Just awful, but he has been resilient in most of his starts.  But once again, he's got runners on with just one out to show and 40 pitches in 1.1 IP.  A hit and it's 1-0.  A deep one with the bases juiced, but Verdugo hauls it in.  Escaped again, but 1-0 down.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on August 25, 2021, 06:47:15 PM
Down early and a weak ground ball loads the bases.  I’m surprised they didn’t toss the throw in the stands.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 06:51:45 PM
Wow, he lucked out and got out of it with just the one run. Still, 50+ pitches in 2 innings. Turn this over to the BP after the 3rd or 4th and it'll be a loss for sure.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 07:15:34 PM
Shaw used up his allotment of home runs in his first two at bats with the Sox. Since then just K's.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on August 25, 2021, 07:30:41 PM
Vazquez did not realize there were two outs so it wasn't running when the ball was hit so he did not score.  More stupid brain dead baseball, these guys heads are not in the game.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on August 25, 2021, 07:45:35 PM
Verdugo gets thrown out at first after hitting a wall ball base hit.  (You can not make this stuff up)
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on August 25, 2021, 07:52:43 PM
OMG a Red Sox pitcher gets a 123 inning.  See what happens when you do not nibble and challenge guys.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 08:45:45 PM
At least they won't get shut out by one of the worst teams in baseball.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 09:09:20 PM
Raffy with a miserable 8th inning AB.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 09:29:56 PM
Taylor done good in the 9th (surprisingly). Now the Sox need a couple of runs to avoid being embarrassed with a loss.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 09:37:27 PM
Just like that. Schwarber ties it up.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 09:45:50 PM
Men on 1st and 3rd with one out and Verdugo has lame AB and K's.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 09:46:59 PM
Then Renfroe with a useless popup ends the threat. This team can't spell clutch, let alone play it.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 09:52:08 PM
Robles gives up a 2-run dinger. That should do it. The Sox had their chance and could not get a clutch hit to bring in Xander for the win. Their plate discipline sux. Period.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on August 25, 2021, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: markj on August 25, 2021, 09:52:08 PM
Robles gives up a 2-run dinger. That should do it. The Sox had their chance and could not get a clutch hit to bring in Xander for the win. Their plate discipline sux. Period.

Yep. Sox had runner on 2nd with no outs in 9th and couldn't get him in.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 10:00:35 PM
Face it, the Sox have no bullpen. Just a bunch of tired arms.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 10:01:01 PM
Embarrassing. Just embarrassing.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 10:05:30 PM
Sox with 12 LOBsters and 3-13 with RISP. This is a total lack of baseball fundamentals. They cannot get even simple base hits when they need them. Fire the entire coaching staff and start over.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 25, 2021, 10:16:47 PM
Vaz drives in a run, but also hits into a DP, which clears the bases. Then Kike goes yard, but just a solo, thanks to Vaz. Sox still down 9-6.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 26, 2021, 07:40:08 AM
As DAD would say , "SON , the RED SOX giving up 9 runs per game is like the PATRIOTS giving up 3 touchdowns" !!! thumb_d iono iono sigh sigh sigh rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on August 26, 2021, 08:04:04 AM
Quote from: markj on August 25, 2021, 10:05:30 PM
Sox with 12 LOBsters and 3-13 with RISP. This is a total lack of baseball fundamentals. They cannot get even simple base hits when they need them. Fire the entire coaching staff and start over.

Well said Mark.  This was another embarrassment.  For anything one guy does well, 3 other guys screw up.  When Vaz got on I just knew he'd run into an out, but I figured he'd try to steal third or something.  Verdugo has the 2020s young baseball player - not everything you stand and watch will go out.  I remember when guys would run all out and go into a trot somewhere close to second base.

Of course for a day we all hoped that Robles may be the answer, but if he is then I don't know what the question was.  So to recap, poor pitching, poor hitting, poor baserunning and another loss.

I have been holding out some sort of hope for these guys but it's over.  Just can't see them winning a one game wild card game never mind a series.
Title: Re: GAME #128 - WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2021 - MINNESOTA TWINS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on August 26, 2021, 05:05:37 PM
Good thing I had to go to UrgenT Care to get a cinder or something out of my eye so I didn't have to see the embarrassing display of our team last night.  First of all Cora has shits for brains.  He has to know by now that Martinez cannot play the outfield and needs to DH.  Psychologically he wants to see his at-bats after each trip to the plate and he can't do that playing in the FIELD where he nervously worries over his last at-bat.  Doesn't Cora know this by know or does he insist he knows best as the smartest man in the room? Cora, you're not that smart; in fact, you lOok pretty dumb to me on most fronts. and I once again shout to the world that Prune Face should never have hired you back and let Bloom bring in his own guy.   That said, I can only say this:  IF THE RED SOX LOSE TONIGHT AND THIS SERIES THEY ARE TOTALLY TOAST AND BACKING UP THE TRUCK SHOULD BEGIN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT FILTHY ROTTEN CHEATER THE FIRST TO CLIMB IN THE BACK.