1:05pm Eastern
RED SOX
Chris Sale (L)
1. Mookie Betts (R) RF
2. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
3. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
4. J.D. Martinez (R) LF
5. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
6. Michael Chavis (R) 1B
7. Marco Hernandez (L) 2B
8. Eduardo Nunez (R) DH
9. Sandy Leon (S) C
WHITE SOX
Reynaldo Lopez (R)
1. Leury Garcia (S) SS
2. Yoan Moncada (S) 3B
3. Jose Abreu (R) 1B
4. James McCann (R) C
5. Eloy Jimenez (R) LF
6. Jon Jay (L) DH
7. Jose Rondon (R) 2B
8. Ryan Cordell (R) CF
9. Charlie Tilson (L) RF
Gametime Temp: 76°F
Chance of Precip: 0%
Kudos to Cora for keeping Beni on the bench.
Bad start for the Ace. 4 hits HBP down 3-0.
Devers wa ball 1b and JD bomb 2-3.
Erod I mean Sale looks lost out there today. 3 innings 63 pitches just like Erod.
Inexperience at 1st possibly cost Red Sox a run. Chavis has to realize guys are still running with 2 outs. Can't be looking at the ump to see what the call is on a close call at 1st. Guy might have scored anyway but he guaranteed it.
WHen I’ve tuned in the Sox have been at bat. What’s up with Sale?
Quote from: longgame on June 26, 2019, 01:23:28 PM
WHen I’ve tuned in the Sox have been at bat. What’s up with Sale?
White Sox came out swinging. His control wasn't great. He hit Moncado. The fact he only gave up 3 runs that inning was a minor miracle. He settled down a little then his control came back to haunt him. Just not his day.
A Write sighting. Got a dp to get out of the 8th. 6-4 White Sox.
Another game where they keep at it and take the lead late. I'd feel better if they could tack on another run or two!
All of a sudden Bogey is the CLUTCH MAN. Clutch 2 out 2 RBIs. Been coming up clutch for a few weeks .5RBIS .7-6 to the 9th. Well worth the reasonable contract extension.
VAZ WITH A BULLET GETS THE ATTEMPTED STEAL.
Let's see if Barnes has the intestinal fortitude to close this thing out. Vaz and Bogaerts eliminated one Barnes mistake.
Watching Barnes pitch the ninth is excruciating
We don't need a closer. Sure.
Sort of had a feeling Abreau was going to uncork a bomb.
Barnes pitches as expected. DD and Manager What me Worry, Barnes does not have the emotional strength to close. I'd rather see the knuckleballer close.
Quote from: elktonnick on June 26, 2019, 03:30:14 PM
Barnes pitches as expected. DD and Manager What me Worry, Barnes does not have the emotional strength to close. I'd rather see the knuckleballer close.
100% agree.
Quote from: elktonnick on June 26, 2019, 03:20:09 PM
Let's see if Barnes has the intestinal fortitude to close this thing out. Vaz and Bogaerts eliminated one Barnes mistake.
More "DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS" for BARNES, you could see/feel it coming !! D D , MOVE him NOW< GRASSHOPPER !!! iono iono iono iono rofl rofl rofl rofl
How many @#$%&?@ times have I said and written ad nauseum that you NEVER entrust Barnes with a one run lead in the ninth inning and why hasn't that stupid ass Cora learned that himself????? This is the third game Meatball has surrendered the game to another team in the last week and a half. He is a gutless bastard and cannot pitch under pressure and Cora is a stupid shit for continuing to use him in such situations. Say what you will but Cora has evolved into a real dumb shit this season for whatever reasons and don't be surprised he does this same dance again until either DD or Henry or someone upper echelon orders him to stop it immediately. Barnes is a loser, gutless, a choker who will cost us anothr win today, the third one in less than two weeks. Send that butt to Timbucto and send BoraBora Cora with him.
Meatball Matt strikes again.
It is absolutely inexcusable to use Barnes in that situation. Even shill O'Brien unintentionally gave a stat about how unsuccessful Barnes has been in such situations. The manager once again shows that he stubbornly sticks to strategy that has repeatedly failed to be successful. Such stubbornness borders on stupidity and or insanity.
--thanks corA, YOU ROTTEN SON OF A BITCH
Yanks win 8-7, Sox lose 7-8. Tells you everything you need to know about the two teams this season. Sox now 9 games back and heading to London to play the Yanks where they'll get embarrassed in that bandbox of a field. They'll come back 11 games out.
BREAKING .... Barnes had his tickets exchanged. No longer flying to London, but to Siberia!
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on June 26, 2019, 04:35:05 PM
BREAKING .... Barnes had his tickets exchanged. No longer flying to London, but to Siberia!
Both he and the manager should be optioned to the Vladisvastok Ice Devils of the Siberian Summer League
Unless he is called on it, look for Cora to do this again. For some reason Red Sox managers seem to get stuck in a stubborn stupidity mode. Francona was that his last three seasons with the Sox and was actually second guessed repeatedly by owner John Henry. John Farrell's stubbornes was very well known but it was also done in stupidity mode. Now Cora bangs his head against the wall and insists on throwing Barnes situations where everyone seems to know that this guy is just not equipped to handle such a chore. Now the team heads to London totally bummed out and I can tell you from experience coaching and watching ML teams for decades. There is nothing more debilitating or confidence shattering thatn to see a team continually gett ing reamed by their own bullpen. Once again this team has been put up against the wall and what's worse is that it seems we have a Fifth Column sitting in our own dugout working against us. This was our 16th blown save, and we lead the league i that miseable statistic.
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What the hell. For the love of God, can they just add another arm so you don’t have to pitch the same guys over and over again. I’m losing it. I’m worried about myself.
Fans aren`t the only ones bitching.
Who else should Cora have put in there? I agree Barnes isn’t the guy but the problem is they don’t have that guy.
You always go into a game with a plan, or at least you should. It appears that the Manager had slotted Barnes to close from the outset. O'Brien himself noted how little success Barnes has had in a closers role. Braisier had only thrown 16 pitches the day before. Barnes had also pitched yesterday as well. He had 19 pitches. So it came down to Braisier vs Barnes.
Coming into the game Braisier had 7 saves and 3 blown saves whereas Barnes had 4 save vs 5 blown saves. It is no secret that the Manager favors Barnes relying him for the heart of the order and I have no problem with that except when it comes in the final inning. Based on performance figures for thus far this year, Barnes fails more often than not in save situations. The results seem to overwhelming suggest that Barnes can not handle being the closer, hence Braisier was the better choice unless injured.
Admittedly the manager did not have a lights out closer at his disposal as Red Sox managers have had in years past but given the data, he clearly chose poorly today.
Quote from: longgame on June 26, 2019, 06:26:19 PM
Who else should Cora have put in there? I agree Barnes isn’t the guy but the problem is they don’t have that guy.
Who should have Cora put in????? How about who he should NOT have put in!!!!!!!! Simply put, anyone but Barnes. HOw many God damn games does he have to blow for us for Alfred E. to learn that this is NOT the guy.?
16 BLOWN saves.
IF the Red Sox had won just half - 8 of those games,
the Red Sox would be in first place in the AL EAST.
FRUSTRATING!
AND this game -
SALE gives up 5 runs -
WHAT is going on with him?
Sox come back in the bottom of the 8th inning
AND the bullpen BLOWS it again.
DAMN
So we need a dedicated closer. There's some sentiment about Eovaldi returns as the closer. After the ASB it's gonna take time to get him in starting shape. The BP gives him that lane.
If that's the solution, we need to trade for a middle or back end SP.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on June 27, 2019, 07:18:09 AM
So we need a dedicated closer. There's some sentiment about Eovaldi returns as the closer. After the ASB it's gonna take time to get him in starting shape. The BP gives him that lane.
If that's the solution, we need to trade for a middle or back end SP.
Interesting idea but you have to wonder if getting him up and down every other day is the best thing for his recovering arm as well. But they need to do something and I'm not sure of his timetable yet. Last I head he was throwing off of flat ground. I think they need to trade for a closer. The sooner the better.
I'm not at my wits end guys but I'm getting closer to it with every disappointing game and blown save. One thing should be clear. Cora's insistence that Barnes be the closer is a house build on loose sand. The guy is NOT closer material. He does at times pitch well in the seventh or eighth innings but the thought of this guy coming into the game to save it in the ninth gives the fans, teammates and Barnes himself a bad case of the shakes. On thing Cora has to understand now is that he must NOT ever use Barnes in the ninth inning ever again. We might try one of the young guys in that role once in awhile because we know Meatball and Brasier are not of the stuff to do that job even though the Brasman has on some occasions....but many times he hasn't.
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on June 27, 2019, 03:48:21 PM
I'm not at my wits end guys but I'm getting closer to it with every disappointing game and blown save. One thing should be clear. Cora's insistence that Barnes be the closer is a house build on loose sand. The guy is NOT closer material. He does at times pitch well in the seventh or eighth innings but the thought of this guy coming into the game to save it in the ninth gives the fans, teammates and Barnes himself a bad case of the shakes. On thing Cora has to understand now is that he must NOT ever use Barnes in the ninth inning ever again. We might try one of the young guys in that role once in awhile because we know Meatball and Brasier are not of the stuff to do that job even though the Brasman has on some occasions....but many times he hasn't.
What I don't get is that it's clear to anyone who is a fan of this game for some time, and that includes everyone of us, is that "closer by committee" doesn't work, never has, never will; and also that the closer takes a certain mentality. My problem is we don't have that guy on our staff. Not Brasier who is too inconsistent, or Workman who walks to many or any of the other guys who still can't seem to get a clean inning in any situation.
I'll continue to maintain that Dombrowski is guilty of GM malpractice by not filling out a full roster on a championship team. He didn't have to do much - shore up the rotation, get a closer, get a second baseman. Those were the needs in November and remain the needs today. They got bailed out with Chavis coming up somewhat on the infield issue.
Maybe they should consider Eovaldi in the closer role. Less stress on his arm and he seems to be the one person on the staff who may have the mentality required.
Eovaldi can be one of our best starters if he is healthy and comes back soon. We need to trade for a closer, and if we have to trade someone e like Bradley, Vazquez, or Nunez and a prospect or two then it must be done. We cannot go this "closer by committee any more. For God's sake didn't this team learn a friggin' thing from 2003 when we tried this stupid way of figuring out who to close. You know????? If we had not blown just half of those 16 potential saves we would be right in the thick of the pennant race for the AL East crown.DD has done a very good job as our head of Baseball Operations for the most part, but, remember, he could not build a good relief staff when he was in Detroit and it cost him two WS titles. Hr needs to improve on this.