11:05 Eastern
Red Sox
Hector Velazquez (R)
1. Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
2. Mookie Betts (R) CF
3. Mitch Moreland (L) 1B
4. J.D. Martinez (R) RF
5. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
6. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
7. Steve Pearce (R) DH
8. Blake Swihart (S) LF
9. Christian Vazquez (R) C
Orioles
Dan Straily (R)
1. Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
2. Trey Mancini (R) RF
3. Dwight Smith Jr. (L) LF
4. Rio Ruiz (L) 3B
5. Renato Nunez (R) DH
6. Chris Davis (L) 1B
7. Jesus Sucre (R) C
8. Richie Martin (R) SS
9. Cedric Mullins (S) CF
Red Sox Radio announcers were talking before the game about the Orioles pitcher -
a reject from the Marlins with an ERA over 19 -
MEANWHILE, the Sox have done NOTHING against this guy
AND Orioles just hit a home run off Walden
Orioles 4 - Sox 0
WHAT is it with this team??
The Red Sox are playing with all the enthusiasm of Dead men walking".
I just can't believe how listless these guys are. Plus, the O's seem to know how to take advantage of Fenway between threading them down the line or their defensive alignments. The Sox just look lost out there.
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on April 15, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
Red Sox Radio announcers were talking about the Orioles pitcher -
a reject from the Marlins with an ERA over 19 -
MEANWHILE, the Sox have done NOTHING against this guy
AND Orioles just hit a home run off Walden
Orioles 4 - Sox 0
WHAT is it with this team??
We have all noted the lack of leadership. Cora's crazy lineup changes are only making a bad situation worse
Quote from: elktonnick on April 15, 2019, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on April 15, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
Red Sox Radio announcers were talking about the Orioles pitcher -
a reject from the Marlins with an ERA over 19 -
MEANWHILE, the Sox have done NOTHING against this guy
AND Orioles just hit a home run off Walden
Orioles 4 - Sox 0
WHAT is it with this team??
We have all noted the lack of leadership. Cora's crazy lineup changes are only making a bad situation worse
WHO was the leader last year?
The team seemed to have good chemistry from Spring Training thru October.
FRUSTRATING when you have the same players, minus 2 relief pitchers, and
they seem distracted and unfocused.
I might be all wet, but IMO some teams (our team?) could be split on who's being signed and who's not being signed leading up to a reset year. Also in the spring, grumblings about teams not aggressively going after free agents. I really hope that amounts to just a couple players if there is any there there.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 15, 2019, 11:50:42 AM
I might be all wet, but IMO some teams (our team?) could be split on who's being signed and who's not being signed leading up to a reset year. Also in the spring, grumblings about teams not aggressively going after free agents. I really hope that amounts to just a couple players if there is any there there.
I suspect there is a lot of truth in what you are saying.
Chris Davis with a HR. We brought this guy alive on top of everything else. What a horrid homestand.
Orioles 6 - Sox 1
Top of the 8th inning . . .
SAD score for a Patriots Day . . .
I know guys are under the weather but why do the Sox have Vazquez playing 2nd. 8 -1. The Os are clobbering the Dread Sox.
TOP of the 9th inning
Orioles 8 - Sox 1
Broadcasters BEFORE the game seemed to think
this would perhaps be an easy game to win for the
Sox.
NOPE.
That is one of this club's biggest problems, they are over confident.
Game over.
Orioles 8 - Sox 1.
The bullpen blew it today . . .
AND NO offense on the Sox side . . .
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on April 15, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
Red Sox Radio announcers were talking before the game about the Orioles pitcher -
a reject from the Marlins with an ERA over 19 -
MEANWHILE, the Sox have done NOTHING against this guy
AND Orioles just hit a home run off Walden
Orioles 4 - Sox 0
WHAT is it with this team??
Think back to 2014 Bo. This is a repeat of that shameful time with new actors portraying our bunch stumblebums with Farrelcora still refusing to admit that he erred badly with his sad and sorry Spring Training program. This team was not ready just as it wasn't ready in 2014. The parallels are strikingly similar is just about all aspects. You would also think that our Remdog would be honest in the broadcast and at least offer a reason for this team's miserable start but all he could say was THAT HE HAD NO IDEA WHY THE TEAM IS PLAYING SO POORLY. Sure Jerry and I just saw a pig fly in my front yard. Of course don't expect anything in that regard from Dave O'Brien, our cruddy regular announcer. He is a house man to the max with nary an independent thought of his own. Not only that he is dull as hell. I still miss Don Orsillo.
Pathetic homestand against two bad teams. So far they've played three teams that dumped everyone - Seattle, Arizona, Toronto and Baltimore - and have been beaten up. Someone has to read the team the riot act. None of this "stay calm and it will come around" stuff. The time for pampering and telling everyone they can be the next MVP is over. Betts is a real concern with his pop-ups and sloppy defense.
I nevr thought I would say this but right now WE ARE A REAL SHITTY TEAM!!!!!!!!
Quote from: longgame on April 15, 2019, 02:29:05 PM
Pathetic homestand against two bad teams. So far they've played three teams that dumped everyone - Seattle, Arizona, Toronto and Baltimore - and have been beaten up. Someone has to read the team the riot act. None of this "stay calm and it will come around" stuff. The time for pampering and telling everyone they can be the next MVP is over. Betts is a real concern with his pop-ups and sloppy defense.
Betts had better get this shit together real soon because if he thinks he's going to cash in with a big contract when his turn comes, well then he must he hoping for a new era of BOWLING FOR DOLLARS because he isn't going to get one. They don't pay for one solid year and then one bad one and then repeated. If he worried about a new contract, well as they say in Russia, TOUGH SHITSKY. No doubt in my mind that is on his mind but too bad. You had your chance to sign a lucrative new pact but chose to hold on for a bigger one. Well get your ass in gear because a 2017 type season will not get you one. And hey Farrelcora, put the Mook back at leadoff where he belongs That was your first mistake last off season. IF IT IS NOT BROKE DON'T TRY TO FIX IT.
This team went into this year without the proper attitude. They played as if every team was going to fall to their feet. They had the most laid back spring training that I've witnessed in the five years I have been attending ST. Cora reinforced this laid back approach with the excuse that they played until November. Earth to Alex, they had three months to recover. These are young men.
It is obvious that Cora is absolutely clueless. His lineup today was a farce. It is also quite clear that Alfred E Newman is going to continue this approach. We will see if playing the Yankees and Rays will shake these guys up. If not, I foresee a very frustrating spring and summer ahead.
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on April 15, 2019, 02:29:40 PM
I nevr thought I would say this but right now WE ARE A REAL SHITTY TEAM!!!!!!!!
With a very shitty manager.
Quote from: elktonnick on April 15, 2019, 03:01:17 PM
This team went into this year without the proper attitude. They played as if every team was going to fall to their feet. They had the most laid back spring training that I've witnessed in the five years I have been attending ST. Cora reinforced this laid back approach with the excuse that they played until November. Earth to Alex, they had three months to recover. These are young men.
It is obvious that Cora is absolutely clueless. His lineup today was a farce. It is also quite clear that Alfred E Newman is going to continue this approach. We will see if playing the Yankees and Rays will shake these guys up. If not, I foresee a very frustrating spring and summer ahead.
Three months to recover Elk???? Man, you're giving them a free pass......ALMOST. The World Series ended on October 28 and ST began around February 21. That is almost four months off and as you said in your post more than enough time to recover. What was worse though was how they went about their chores in ST. I saw it on my computer how laid back and diffident they looked; hell, you were right there and can probably tell me a treasure trove of things that I couldn't see on the screen, though, truth be told, I don't need any convincing on that score. Believe it or not, this is similar to the ST Farrell ran in 2014 and I kept going it over and over with my now missing pal Muggah that the team was not ready. Hell, what is it with Red Sox managers after they win a World Series anyway? Farrell did this and if you remember so did Francona after 2007 when he allowed himself to accept a trip to Japan to open the season, then a few practice games on return only to start the season again on the road. Of course he might have had a excuse since that turd Larry Luchino was working behind the scene to run the show.
Tomorrow and Wednesday they go to Yankee Stadium for a short two game series and I can tell you without a doubt if they enter the Bronx with that what me worry attitude they will get reamed good and proper, and coupled with what appears to be a tough series in Tampa Bay the season could really get away from us before the end of April. Very very sad.
Quote from: elktonnick on April 15, 2019, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on April 15, 2019, 02:29:40 PM
I nevr thought I would say this but right now WE ARE A REAL SHITTY TEAM!!!!!!!!
With a very shitty manager.
You have to wonder what has come over Alex Cora my friend. Last season he seemed to on top of things. Did he develop a bad case of hubris? He seems to have become so sure of himself that he forgot what it took to get his and his team where it ended up in 2018. Somebody had better warm him fast because the season is fast moving away from him and before long he could be taking theteam down and the fans with him.
I'm way short of a whiz on baseball numbers and projections. But I read yesterday we need to play .625 baseball to win 95 games at this point. If that is accurate, we are digging a hole fast. A lot of the Sox solid prospects are down in AA ball. With the pitching as is, JH might have to again spend his way out of this mess.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 15, 2019, 05:42:53 PM
I'm way short of a whiz on baseball numbers and projections. But I read yesterday we need to play .625 baseball to win 95 games at this point. If that is accurate, we are digging a hole fast. A lot of the Sox solid prospects are down in AA ball. With the pitching as is, JH might have to again spend his way out of this mess.
There are 145 games left. They've won 6, so they need 89 more wins to hit 95. 89/145=.614 (rounded). So they have to play .614 ball from here on out.
Thanks for the correction.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 15, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Thanks for the correction.
Didn't mean to be nerdy. Just putting the formula out there. :o 8)
They were capable of playing above .600 last year, but they're showing no signs at all of being able to do that this season.
Quote from: markj on April 15, 2019, 08:40:20 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 15, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Thanks for the correction.
Didn't mean to be nerdy. Just putting the formula out there. :o 8)
They were capable of playing above .600 last year, but they're showing no signs at all of being able to do that this season.
Well Markj, it looks like the lot of us might be crying on each other's shoulders this season and looking for moral support where we can find it. I never said this season could turn out to be like the last one we had after a WS Title but did hint there was a possibility of it happening. Well guess what guys and gals? It looks like it could be happening. I get the feeling from teams in all sports that win a title often do not want to pay the price of playing to the hilt the next season because it is too hard and too challenging. I think of the Eagles in football for instance. Yet we have teams like the Patriots and Warriors who seem to muster the talent, work and determination to make it happen again and again. We could us a little of that right now.....nay, we could use a lot of it.
Belichick doesn't baby his starters when they come into camp because they played a longer season than everyone else. Bill Belichick doesn't try to be liked by all his players. Tom Brady doesn't start training camp three weeks after everyone else. Tom Brady isn't afraid to call out his team mates for sloppy listless play.
Quote from: elktonnick on April 15, 2019, 09:50:33 PM
Belichick doesn't baby his starters when they come into camp because they played a longer season than everyone else. Bill Belichick doesn't try to be liked by all his players. Tom Brady doesn't start training camp three weeks after everyone else. Tom Brady isn't afraid to call out his team mates for sloppy listless play.
Well Elk, that says it all. I only wish Cora and his troops are listening.
PATRIOTS DAY ?? How the HE/double/LL do you not win on this day in April ??? ZERO ENERGY & oh yes, the B P has too many retreads, NEEDS REBOOTING !! thumb_d iono iono iono iono
If this hadn't happened just a few years ago we'd be more complacent about it. The Sox have done this a couple of times now - gone from a winner to a loser in a heartbeat - because they get babied and think they run the show. Alex Cora - first rule of management - you can't be everyone's friend.
Yesterday's lineup was a product of two guys being out but still that's not a valid excuse to have Vaz at 2B. But if they can't field a decent team, then that sends a message to the other guys that they don't have to step it up either - we can stick one of our catchers in your spot.
I fully expect to go 0-5 on this road trip as even the beaten up Yankees can still play.
Quote from: longgame on April 16, 2019, 08:15:35 AM
If this hadn't happened just a few years ago we'd be more complacent about it. The Sox have done this a couple of times now - gone from a winner to a loser in a heartbeat - because they get babied and think they run the show. Alex Cora - first rule of management - you can't be everyone's friend.
Yesterday's lineup was a product of two guys being out but still that's not a valid excuse to have Vaz at 2B. But if they can't field a decent team, then that sends a message to the other guys that they don't have to step it up either - we can stick one of our catchers in your spot.
I fully expect to go 0-5 on this road trip as even the beaten up Yankees can still play.
0 & 5 ?? HOPE NOT, that would be the DEATH KNELL for our 2019 SEASON...….. Would RATHER see D D make a couple of MOVES to shke things up !! iono iono iono
I agree that this cycle of winning a World Series and then playing
a losing season the next is troubling AND exasperating!
AND this year in particular - the only players that did not return
are relief pitchers. Just doesn't make sense to me.
It is as if they thought: "We won it all last year, we are a good team,
we have the chemistry, we don't have to work at it. We're good."
WHAT happened between winning it all in October and not playing well
from Spring Training on?????
That's exactly it Bo. Winning became easy for them last year. All the breaks went their way and they had great seasons collectively and individually. It was too easy, they expect to show up and get a win.