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Title: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Bear on July 25, 2017, 04:09:39 AM
RED SOX V MARINERS

TUESDAY, JULY 25, 2017, 10 PM AT SAFECO FIELD

TV:  NESN, ROOTNW

BOSTON, (55-46)......................................................................................SEATTLE, (50-51)

BOSTON:

DREW POMERANZ, LHP, 10-4, 3.51 ERA, 108K

The lefty is on one of the best runs of his career, in his last eleven
starts, Pomeranz is 7-1 with a 2.64 ERA.  In nine road starts, Pomeranz
is 4-2 with a 3.04 ERA

SEATTLE:

FELIX HERNANDEZ, RHP, 5-4, 3.88 ERA, 60K

The veteran appears back on track, posting a 1.00 ERA over his three
starts with just 11 hits and 22 strikeouts in 18 innings.  This will be his
first time facing Boston this year, but he's 8-4 with a 3.90 ERA in 18 career
starts against the Sox.

Devers to face King Felix in Red Sox debut

Josh Horton

Welcome to The Show and an American League East pennant race, kid.

Red Sox top prospect Rafael Devers will make his first Major League start on Tuesday night against the Mariners at Safeco Field. He'll face Mariners right-hander Felix Hernandez opposite Boston lefty Drew Pomeranz, one of the hottest pitchers in the game.

The 20-year-old third baseman and MLB's No. 4 prospect, according to MLBPipeline.com, cruised through Boston's Minor League system, playing just nine games in Triple-A Pawtucket before receiving his big league callup. He's ecstatic to face an established Major League pitcher like Hernandez (5-4, 3.88 ERA) in his first start.

"I admire him because he's a pitcher who has won Cy Youngs before," Devers said. "To be able to face him and watch him pitch is an awesome experience."

Hernandez (5-4, 3.88) has been on a roll lately, going 2-1 with a 1.00 ERA in his last three starts.

Pomeranz (10-4, 3.51 ERA) is having one of the best stretches of his career, owning a 7-1 record with a 2.64 ERA in his last 11 starts. He issued five walks in his last start on Wednesday against the Blue Jays, but he limited the damage to allow one unearned run on three hits in 6 2/3 innings.

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• Pomeranz has fared well against the Mariners in his big league career, posting a 3.51 ERA in 12 appearances (three starts) versus Seattle.

• The long ball has hurt Hernandez more than it has in the past. His 1.9 home runs per nine innings is the highest of his career, with his next closest at 1.1 (2008 and '16).

• Mariners outfielder Ben Gamel is on an 11-game hit streak.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170724244160146/devers-to-face-king-felix-in-red-sox-debut/?game_pk=491591


Red Sox @ Mariners G2

Betts RF
Benintendi LF
Pedroia 2B
Ramirez DH
Bradley Jr CF
Bogaerts SS
Moreland 1B
Vazquez C
Devers 3B

Pomeranz LHP.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: longgame on July 25, 2017, 08:03:43 AM
Other than Devers, there aren't a lot of good reasons to stay up late and watch these guys not hit. 
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 08:27:21 AM
Lou Merloni‏Verified account @LouMerloni  11h11 hours ago

The likeability of this Sox team took a huge hit today IMO. Ownership needs to address it. Your fans don't like your team. That's a problem

This says it all......
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: elktonnick on July 25, 2017, 09:39:46 AM
Yup!!!.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
 Sox have been shut out 9 times in 2017 only 6 times in 2016.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
Since April 15th Red Sox catchers are batting .233/.282/.321, 45% worse than league average, ranking 29th in MLB.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Sox have been shut out 9 times in 2017 only 6 times in 2016.

But 16 times the year before, if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: markj on July 25, 2017, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Sox have been shut out 9 times in 2017 only 6 times in 2016.

But 16 times the year before, if I recall correctly.

I believe it was in 2014 and 14  times. Not sure I`ll check later. Yes it was 2014
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Bill-806 on July 25, 2017, 03:00:52 PM
  Make no mistake about it, BIG GAME TONIGHT........  The ROOKIE against HERNANDEZ, what a way to start ??  Good luck, KID !! thumb_u rofl
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Muggah on July 25, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 08:27:21 AM
Lou Merloni‏Verified account @LouMerloni  11h11 hours ago

The likeability of this Sox team took a huge hit today IMO. Ownership needs to address it. Your fans don't like your team. That's a problem

This says it all......

Sox are taking an absolute beating PR-wise over this. The magnitude of it is fast approaching 2011's "chicken and beer parties" level.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 04:17:05 PM
Boston Strong‏ @BostonStrong_34 

The Red Sox have 'strong interest' for SS Zack Cozart, he's not in the Reds lineup tonight in the Bronx.


Hmmm!!!
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: markj on July 25, 2017, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Sox have been shut out 9 times in 2017 only 6 times in 2016.

But 16 times the year before, if I recall correctly.

I believe it was in 2014 and 14  times. Not sure I`ll check later. Yes it was 2014

I don't have my game scores for that year any longer, but baseball-reference.com lists 15 shutouts for 2014. I thought they'd hit 10% (or 16) for that year, but maybe I'm wrong. Either way, that was a brutal year.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 09:48:29 PM
Well, won't be staying up too late watching this one. Sox down 3-0 in the 2nd.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on July 25, 2017, 09:53:53 PM
Quote from: markj on July 25, 2017, 09:48:29 PM
Well, won't be staying up too late watching this one. Sox down 3-0 in the 2nd.

SAD to think that our team is already out of this game.
WHAT has happened to this team??????

CRAP.
4 game losing streak . . .

AND the Yankees and the Rays won tonight.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: ipot on July 25, 2017, 10:01:45 PM
Luckily this ended in the 3rd inning. You can't even blame Pomeranz since the offense won't get more than 1-2 runs at best anyway.

This team is headed for the gutter. 6-12 since the aberration that was a 6 game winning streak.

Even the 2012 Valentine squad was more fun to watch.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: ipot on July 25, 2017, 10:19:37 PM
And whoop-de-do, Hanley puts us on the board.  At least no shutout. 
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 10:22:03 PM
Was about to post the same thing. Don't need 4 shutouts in one month. Still a week to go, though.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 10:35:37 PM
Pomeranz gets out of a jam to keep it within reach. Maybe. That one pitch that ended up in the bleachers cost him big time. Otherwise he's been doing what he's done the past 6 or 7 games. Solid enough, but high PC and a pre-7th inning exit.

Unfortunately, King Felix is cruising at 53 pitches in the 5th inning. He'll be here for a good part of the game.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 10:54:38 PM
Betts K's swinging at a pitch that has a different zip code than Safeco Field. Geez.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 11:05:19 PM
Wow, Pedey drives in 2 to tie it up. Whoda thunk it?
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 25, 2017, 11:06:39 PM
JBJ drives in Pedey to put the Sox up 4-3. Will wonders never cease?
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on July 26, 2017, 12:35:20 AM
Tie game.
Sox 4 - Mariners 4
Going to the bottom of the 10th inning.
 
I have to go to bed . . .
Would love to see them pull out a win . . .
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 01:31:47 AM
Bottom 12th coming up at 2:30 a.m. Tied at 4.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 01:38:04 AM
On to the 13th.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 01:53:37 AM
Sox lead 5-4 going to bottom of the 13th. RBI single driving in Hanley from 2nd.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Bear on July 26, 2017, 01:57:05 AM
Oh Lord, it's Fister....of all the relievers we're using Fister.
Farrell:  It's his turn!

***********************************

It's games like this I enjoyed Orsillo and Remy....at least they made us laugh.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Bear on July 26, 2017, 02:07:40 AM
3:04 in the morning, and Fister gives up a hit.
men on 1 and 3, wild pitch ties the game.
13th inning, 5-5 game.
Good night George.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 02:12:32 AM
Sox lose 6-5 at 3:10 a.m. after being 1 strike away from winning the game.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: ipot on July 26, 2017, 02:22:14 AM
That was cute.  They came back, tied it, took the lead - but Hembree did his thing and Farrell putting Fister out there was essentially throwing in the towel.

Plus ya ain't going anywhere if your bats go cold for 6 straight innings. They did nada from innings 7 - 12

Slip, sliding into the WC pack, this team...
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 03:32:03 AM
Quote from: ipot on July 26, 2017, 02:22:14 AM
That was cute.  They came back, tied it, took the lead - but Hembree did his thing and Farrell putting Fister out there was essentially throwing in the towel.

Plus ya ain't going anywhere if your bats go cold for 6 straight innings. They did nada from innings 7 - 12

Slip, sliding into the WC pack, this team...

Throwing in the towel? Fister pitched 2.2 scoreless innings. Was 1 strike away from winning the game with only a runner on 1st. Just couldn't get that 3rd out.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 26, 2017, 06:13:49 AM
Sad days.

I did tune in for a couple innings before bed. Saw the new kid walk and score, and Pedey and Bradley got RBIs. That was fun. I did wake in time to see Mr Fundamentals get hit in the hand with a bunt attempt and Devers hit a tapper somewhere to end that inning.   Glad I missed the rest.

Today should be interesting. We need to clear a spot for Boyer, from what I hear.

Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: ojdidit on July 26, 2017, 06:18:44 AM
Quote from: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 03:32:03 AM
Quote from: ipot on July 26, 2017, 02:22:14 AM
That was cute.  They came back, tied it, took the lead - but Hembree did his thing and Farrell putting Fister out there was essentially throwing in the towel.

Plus ya ain't going anywhere if your bats go cold for 6 straight innings. They did nada from innings 7 - 12

Slip, sliding into the WC pack, this team...

Throwing in the towel? Fister pitched 2.2 scoreless innings. Was 1 strike away from winning the game with only a runner on 1st. Just couldn't get that 3rd out.

Sure, George, and on my 200X scratch ticket 10M was #43 and I had #42....just could not get that last number. 8)
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on July 26, 2017, 06:29:11 AM
What I don't understand is why Farrell uses Kimbrel for
one inning in a tie game.
Wouldn't it be better to hold off and see if your team
takes the lead AND then put him in??

AND granted Fister pitched 2 scoreless innings -
Didn't they have Abad or Taylor available?

DANG IT -
They made a game out of it
AND Hembree and Fister blew it.

DANG IT!
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Bill-806 on July 26, 2017, 06:44:20 AM
   & light DAWNS on MARBLEHEAD !!   Hang in there ALL, as  I see  TRADER  D D  is not through yet.... NUNEZ is here & I feel a  BLOCKBUSTER coming !! thumb_u iono rofl
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: markj on July 26, 2017, 07:25:38 AM
5-10 for their last 15. Ouch.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 26, 2017, 07:38:27 AM
One behind the NYY and looking up is not good.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 26, 2017, 07:40:10 AM
With Nunez on board wondering if they keep Devers up.I would and send Holt down .
Just my opinion.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 26, 2017, 07:45:13 AM
Sale really needs his biggest WIN as a Sox .If they lose today then hit KC who are 8-2 in last 10 playing much better .This could get ugly fast and the door will be WIDE OPEN FOR FARRELL.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: longgame on July 26, 2017, 07:58:17 AM
Not sure why Kimbrel was out there without a lead.  Another tough loss...
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: ipot on July 26, 2017, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 03:32:03 AM
Quote from: ipot on July 26, 2017, 02:22:14 AM
That was cute.  They came back, tied it, took the lead - but Hembree did his thing and Farrell putting Fister out there was essentially throwing in the towel.

Plus ya ain't going anywhere if your bats go cold for 6 straight innings. They did nada from innings 7 - 12

Slip, sliding into the WC pack, this team...

Throwing in the towel? Fister pitched 2.2 scoreless innings. Was 1 strike away from winning the game with only a runner on 1st. Just couldn't get that 3rd out.

Yup, and if one of Segura's fouls landed fair - or he made contact with the swinging strike - the game would have been over in the 11th.  Or maybe, Hanley, who had hit a HR, didn't GIDP in the 8th with 1 out.

This team is not getting it done. 6-12 since leaving TEX.  .350 winning percentage.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 26, 2017, 12:19:41 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 25, 2017, 04:17:05 PM
Boston Strong‏ @BostonStrong_34 

The Red Sox have 'strong interest' for SS Zack Cozart, he's not in the Reds lineup tonight in the Bronx.


Hmmm!!!

Hmmm my ass.  Anyone out there still think that I am wrong about Pukegaerts?  He sucks to high heaven.  Another ofer last night and since I didn't stay up and watch the game since I knew the outcome before it even began, I wonder how many @#$%^& runners he left on base last night.  Well at least I'm a little ahead of the curve and pre-empts Merloni on th at one.  I haven't liked this team since the third week of the season and now I can say without a doubt that I was right all along....to wit THIS IS A FIRST CLASS SHITTY TEAM AND I DESPISE IT .  We better get Cozart and get that fu@@in' choker out of town.  As for Fister, shoot the bastard.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 26, 2017, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: Bear on July 26, 2017, 01:57:05 AM
Oh Lord, it's Fister....of all the relievers we're using Fister.
Farrell:  It's his turn!

It's gotta be y our turn Farrell, you incompetent piece of turd.........your turn to get out of Boston....any way.

***********************************

It's games like this I enjoyed Orsillo and Remy....at least they made us laugh.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 26, 2017, 12:23:01 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on July 26, 2017, 03:32:03 AM
Quote from: ipot on July 26, 2017, 02:22:14 AM
That was cute.  They came back, tied it, took the lead - but Hembree did his thing and Farrell putting Fister out there was essentially throwing in the towel.

Plus ya ain't going anywhere if your bats go cold for 6 straight innings. They did nada from innings 7 - 12

Slip, sliding into the WC pack, this team...

Throwing in the towel? Fister pitched 2.2 scoreless innings. Was 1 strike away from winning the game with only a runner on 1st. Just couldn't get that 3rd out.

He couldn't get the last out because he is a God damn loser.  He has failed to get the last out too many times since we signed t hat dork to a contract.  He is now 0-5.  He hasn't won a game, hasn't held a lead, hasn't saved a game.  All he does is lose.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on July 26, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
High Heat Stats  📎‏Verified account @HighHeatStats

Doug Fister made two meh starts for the Red Sox. In 5 games SINCE those, he's gone 14.1 IP, 19 hits, 15 ER (9.42 ERA) with 11 BB and 10 K.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 26, 2017, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 26, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
High Heat Stats  📎‏Verified account @HighHeatStats

Doug Fister made two meh starts for the Red Sox. In 5 games SINCE those, he's gone 14.1 IP, 19 hits, 15 ER (9.42 ERA) with 11 BB and 10 K.

One of those meh games you're talking about was one I attended and it wasn't any meh game to me.  It was a total choke-up effort.  An inning ending DP was overturned by the camera in NY and so Fister could bow his neck and get the third out and escape further trouble.  Instead he got hammered for two booming doubles and a clothes-line hit and cost us two more runs and took us out the ball game.  It was meh----it was a sign of what this piece of pitching crap was going to give us.....nothing.
Title: Re: GAME #102, BOSTON RED SOX AT SEATTLE MARINERS
Post by: ojdidit on July 26, 2017, 07:45:41 PM
Monday night Hector went 7 innings and took a loss - allowed 2 runs.