JAYS V RED SOX
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2017, 7 PM AT FENWAY PARK
TV: NESN, SNET
TORONTO, (74-83)..........................................................................................BOSTON, (91-65)
TORONTO:
J.A. HAPP, LHP, 9-11, 3.64 ERA, 133K
Happ is finishing the season on a roll. He has allowed one earned run or fewer
in four of his last five starts, and he's pitched into the seventh during each of his last
two. He's 6-3 over his last 10 starts.
BOSTON:
CHRIS SALE, LHP, 17-7, 2.75 ERA, 300K
The ace is 13 strikeouts from tying Pedro Martinez for the club record of 313 in
1999. Sale was dominant in his last start, firing eight scoreless innings while allowing
four hits and striking out 13. The lefty is 7-2 with a 2.81 era at Fenway.
Dominant Sale starts as Sox near East clinch
Quinn Roberts
With the American League East title in sight, the Red Sox enter Tuesday night's game against the Blue Jays at Fenway Park with a magic number of three to clinch the division. Boston dropped the opener, which snapped a six-game winning streak.
While they may be close, the Red Sox are doing their best not to focus on the standings or who they may face in the postseason.
"Tonight's game. Nothing beyond tonight. That's the attitude that this team has had the entire season," Red Sox manager John Farrell said before Monday's game. "There is no reason to suggest that would change during this final homestand. We love the fact that we are back home."
AL Cy Young Award candidate Chris Sale makes his fourth start of the season against Toronto. The ace has dominated the Blue Jays in 2017, going 2-0 without giving up an earned run in 22 innings. He has allowed just 11 hits and has struck out a whopping 35 batters.
J.A. Happ gets the nod for the Blue Jays. The left-hander mixed pitches well in his last start against the Royals on Thursday, going 6 2/3 innings and allowing just one run on seven hits in a loss.
"It was a two-seamer and a curveball," Happ said after his last start. "That got two big double-play balls. I felt like I got more of those last year, but they came in big spots tonight. So those were big pitches that we were able to turn that got us out of a few jams tonight."
THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME
• Expect Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia back in the lineup. He sat out Monday as he recovers from a sore left knee. Mookie Betts (left wrist) and Eduardo Nunez (right knee) exited Monday's game and are day to day.
• The current Blue Jays roster is batting a cumulative .176 against Sale. Russell Martin is 0-for-12, Jose Bautista is 1-for-17, Kevin Pillar is 3-for-19 and Josh Donaldson is 5-for-24.
• In getting to 300 strikeouts, Sale also ranks first in the Majors in numerous sub-categories, including swinging strikeouts (221), strikeouts on four-seam fastballs (139), strikeouts on in-zone pitches (154), strikeouts on 0-2 counts (74) and strikeouts against right-handed batters (259).
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170925256063514/dominant-sale-starts-as-sox-near-east-clinch/?game_pk=492457
RESERVED
6
MAGIC NUMBER
3
No Nunez or Betts vs. TOR:
Bogaerts SS,
Young RF,
Benintendi LF,
Ramirez DH,
Travis 1B,
Devers 3B,
Marrero 2B,
Leon C,
Bradley CF,
Sale LHP
Here we go, a MUST WIN tonight for the SOX & SALE ....... (APRIL, MAY, & JUNE ??????? ) iono slap rofl
Quote from: Bill-806 on September 26, 2017, 05:27:05 AM
Here we go, a MUST WIN tonight for the SOX & SALE ....... (APRIL, MAY, & JUNE ??????? ) iono slap rofl
Nothing is automatic about tonight's game Bill so I am relieved that you didn't come out and say tonight is in the bag because it most certainly isn't. Watch to see if Chrissie Young or Hanley Has-Been are in the lineup, then count to three and pray like you never have before. I hate feeling like this but when I saw Farrell's lineup for last night's game my confidence and upbeat feeling simply eroded. I cannot believe he would bench Benintendi for his pet Chrissie. We could still blow this thing.
I'd be very worried about Happ. The Sox can make bad pitchers look good and as the intro says Happ has been on a roll.
Plus he's a lefty so Farrell will feel forced to play a poor lineup.
That's right, lineup will consist of Young...good old Young.
Brock Holt? Good possibility.
Betts having his wrist examined today, wonder how that will turn out.
Nunez out for the week.
BTW, do we want NUNEZ here next season? Hasn't he been on the DL
2 or 3 times in the short time he's been here?
Pedroia, what can I say, I like the guy, but he has to be healthy. iono slap :'(
Quote from: longgame on September 26, 2017, 12:29:16 PM
I'd be very worried about Happ. The Sox can make bad pitchers look good and as the intro says Happ has been on a roll.
Plus he's a lefty so Farrell will feel forced to play a poor lineup.
Put BENNIE BASEBALL in & let him go !!!
Quote from: Bill-806 on September 26, 2017, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: longgame on September 26, 2017, 12:29:16 PM
I'd be very worried about Happ. The Sox can make bad pitchers look good and as the intro says Happ has been on a roll.
Plus he's a lefty so Farrell will feel forced to play a poor lineup.
Put BENNIE BASEBALL in & let him go !!!
What the #$%$^---What the hell is that F@#$%&?G Young in the lineup again? And batting 2nd????? Chrissie is a worthless POS who can't hit anybody....AND WE HAVE HIM BATTING SECOND??????? And Ramirez fourth?????? If we blow this thing, and with these two bums in there we very well could, Farrell must be fired and fast. What a worthless no good bum he is, stubbornly keeping Chrissie in there when he hasn't had more than three hits in three months---and he never gets on base much either. No power, and notice that when he plays our team seems to play poorly and often loses? I would much rather have Holt in there. At least he gives you a little fire and drive. Tonight we stand a 65% chance of losing. F#$K you Farrell.
And start doing something at the plate Bradley and Leon!!!!!!! You've shit the bed with the bat long enough. Truth be told I will not be watching this game and will pray my fanny off and it might not do much good.
This one is a sh-t show on so many levels:
1. Happ is no slouch, folks. He's a VERY good pitcher.
2. Young is in there because who's our 4th OFer? Do we have a choice?
3. Nunez is hurt again. Why? Because he has to overcompensate for what is a a horrible parade of bats. I like him a lot. He's the only "real hitter" we have.
4. Leon, who can't hit a HS team, is in there as Sale's personal catcher when Vaz is actually hitting 100 points better.
5. Pedey's playing time management is code for "He's got about 1 good half-a-season left in him."
.......
6. and....sooooo.......Sale has to wear down his arm, go deep and keep a "0" on the board to give us a 50/50 shot at a W.
We're relying on NYY losses to clinch this division. Hopefully, HOU will be resting everyone....
Quote from: ipot on September 26, 2017, 03:43:30 PM
This one is a sh-t show on so many levels:
1. Happ is no slouch, folks. He's a VERY good pitcher.
2. Young is in there because who's our 4th OFer? Do we have a choice?
3. Nunez is hurt again. Why? Because he has to overcompensate for what is a a horrible parade of bats. I like him a lot. He's the only "real hitter" we have.
4. Leon, who can't hit a HS team, is in there as Sale's personal catcher when Vaz is actually hitting 100 points better.
5. Pedey's playing time management is code for "He's got about 1 good half-a-season left in him."
.......
6. and....sooooo.......Sale has to wear down his arm, go deep and keep a "0" on the board to give us a 50/50 shot at a W.
We're relying on NYY losses to clinch this division. Hopefully, HOU will be resting everyone....
B I N G O DAT !!!! thumb_u iono slap rofl
Sale throwing a lot of pitches so far.
Sale has given up 2 solo shots to Josh Donaldson
AND the Sox are having a hard time against Happ.
Jays 2 - Sox 1
AND, yes - Sale is already at 71 pitches at the beginning
of the 4th inning.
MEANWHILE - the Yankees are beating the Rays . . .
DANG IT!
Only 2 hits so far. The first two hitters of the game. Should of gotten Young home from 2nd with no outs but our 3-5 hitters did nothing.
ANOTHER solo home run given up by Sale.
Jays 3 - Sox 1.
NOT looking good.
AND the Yankees are winning . . .
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Game over. Sale craps the mound again.
DAMN!
Sale has given up FOUR home runs
Jays 5 - Sox 1.
(I thought this team is supposed to play better
at home.)
DAMN, when you have Sale and Pomeranz on the mound
you think you are going to win games.
Pomeranz crashed last night
and Sale is crashing tonight.
DAMN
When the Sox needed their 2 top pitchers the most they go out and give up 5 runs each.
There goes Sale's chance at a Cy Young too.
His ERA is climbing.
(NOT that I care or he may not care -
UGHHHHHHHH, we are supposed to win the games that Sale pitches.)
Playoff preview for the Sox. They won't be able to hit the good pitching their going to face and all the other teams are content to strikeout a lot if they can hit HRs every other inning.
At least if they can hang on and take the division, it will be a nice quick 3 gamer.
I REALLY wanted the Sox to clinch the AL East BEFORE
they played the Astros.
NOW, I am hoping that they win the AL EAST.
UGHHHHHH
Injuries, and the starting pitching is not pitching
to their best.
Meanwhile the Yankees are plugging away . . .
Sloppy, sloppy play. Too many errors.
Sox need to seriously look for a power bat in the off season. Problem is where do you put him? If you can't hit hr's it's tough to win.
Jays 9 - Sox 1
BAD game, all around.
DAMN - NEVER would have thought that the Sox would
play this poorly at home after sweeping two series on the road.
It'd be a game now if the BP hadn't crapped out.
Sox LOSE 9-5.
CRAP.
The game was over when Sale took the mound. Sale has been a Jekyll and Hyde act since for 2 months.
The Red Sox have the same odds of winning the World Series this year as the Phillies do = 0. The only difference is that the Phillies don't get to play past Game 162.
No glory in MUDVILLE last night, our beloved RED SOX lost again !!! thumb_d iono slap rofl
Wonder if JF is thinking maybe having Sale pitch in the 8th inning of a 6-0 game was worth going for a ridiculous 300 K which he would have gotten anyway on next start.Probably meant nothing but still, IMHO it made zero sense.
Quote from: ipot on September 27, 2017, 02:06:30 AM
The game was over when Sale took the mound. Sale has been a Jekyll and Hyde act since for 2 months.
The Red Sox have the same odds of winning the World Series this year as the Phillies do = 0. The only difference is that the Phillies don't get to play past Game 162.
100 % correct and probably only 10% chance to even get to the WS.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on September 27, 2017, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: ipot on September 27, 2017, 02:06:30 AM
The game was over when Sale took the mound. Sale has been a Jekyll and Hyde act since for 2 months.
The Red Sox have the same odds of winning the World Series this year as the Phillies do = 0. The only difference is that the Phillies don't get to play past Game 162.
100 % correct and probably only 10% chance to even get to the WS.
I'd say they have zero chance to get to the WS, probably zero to get past Houston. They can't hit and when their two aces crap out it's over.
Quote from: longgame on September 27, 2017, 08:15:32 AM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on September 27, 2017, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: ipot on September 27, 2017, 02:06:30 AM
The game was over when Sale took the mound. Sale has been a Jekyll and Hyde act since for 2 months.
The Red Sox have the same odds of winning the World Series this year as the Phillies do = 0. The only difference is that the Phillies don't get to play past Game 162.
100 % correct and probably only 10% chance to even get to the WS.
I'd say they have zero chance to get to the WS, probably zero to get past Houston. They can't hit and when their two aces crap out it's over.
I would say
MOST OF RSN(Idid) knew this a long time ago .You can win without POWER only
IF you have a good hitting team which the Sox are
NOT
Hard to win when your 2 best pitchers go a total of 7 innings in 2 games and give up 5 earned runs each. We can blame the offense all we want but if you need to score 6-7 runs to win it's not a blue print for success. Then we have these guys in the lineup that I keep hearing have to play if we want the win and they spit the bit and did nothing. The Sox got 8 hits last night and 4 of them were after the game was already decided. Out of the 8 hits 5 were from our 1 & 2 hitters. What was everyone else doing?
Quote from: Rob from Mass on September 27, 2017, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: ipot on September 27, 2017, 02:06:30 AM
The game was over when Sale took the mound. Sale has been a Jekyll and Hyde act since for 2 months.
The Red Sox have the same odds of winning the World Series this year as the Phillies do = 0. The only difference is that the Phillies don't get to play past Game 162.
100 % correct and probably only 10% chance to even get to the WS.
Rob--and that's why I say get Mookie and Pedroia back in that lineup and go all out to win the AL East Title because we have less than zero chance of advancing in the playoffs. Entering as a WC is a study in futility, and, frankly, I would root against the Sox in such a scenario for the simple reason that might be the only way to finally rid oursleves of absolutely the worst manager I have ever seen. That is, unless, Prune Face gives RSN a big middle finger and defies all reason and brings the no good incompetent bum back.
Quote from: longgame on September 27, 2017, 08:15:32 AM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on September 27, 2017, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: ipot on September 27, 2017, 02:06:30 AM
The game was over when Sale took the mound. Sale has been a Jekyll and Hyde act since for 2 months.
The Red Sox have the same odds of winning the World Series this year as the Phillies do = 0. The only difference is that the Phillies don't get to play past Game 162.
100 % correct and probably only 10% chance to even get to the WS.
It may speak volumes for the spiritual weakness and gutlessness of our team to see our two top pitchers go deep belly up in their two most important starts of the season. They looked utterly crappy and now we wonder who if any of our team will stand up and will us a couple of wins the next two or three games. This evolving debacle could have been planted in April to June when we constantly gave games away and totally underachieved, led by a manager who has no business being manager of our team.
I'd say they have zero chance to get to the WS, probably zero to get past Houston. They can't hit and when their two aces crap out it's over.