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Title: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on June 11, 2017, 01:12:33 AM
TIGERS V RED SOX

SUNDAY, JUNE 11, 2017, 8 PM AT FENWAY PARK

TV:  ESPN

DETROIT, (29-32)................................................................................BOSTON, (34-27)

DETROIT:

DANIEL NORRIS, LHP, 2-4, 4.48 ERA, 55K

Norris tossed six quality innings Tuesday against the Angel at Comerica Park,
but needed 110 pitches to do it.  As with many of his starts over the past month,
a big inning ballooned his count early with 30 pitches in the third.

BOSTON:

DEW POMERANZ, LHP, 6-3, 4.02 ERA, 71K

The lefty threw 123 pitches over just five innings in his last start, but he
allowed just one earned run and got the win at Yankee Stadium.  At Fenway
this season, Pomeranz is 4-1 with a 4.11 ERA in six starts.

Sox seek efficient Pomeranz, sweep of Tigers

Evan Chronis

Lefties Drew Pomeranz and Daniel Norris will face off in the conclusion of the Red Sox-Tigers weekend series on Sunday night at Fenway Park. Both pitchers are coming off performances that included their highest pitch totals of the season.

Pomeranz (6-3, 4.02 ERA) is fresh out of a five-inning, 123-pitch outing against the Yankees on Tuesday, but he was still able to earn the win after allowing one run. Sunday night's game will provide the opportunity for Pomeranz to extend his career-long winning streak to four wins in as many starts.

The return to the mound at Fenway Park will be a welcome one for Pomeranz, who is 4-1 in six starts at home this season.
Norris (2-4, 4.48 ERA) will look to get back on track after throwing 110 pitches in six innings and taking a loss against the Angels on Tuesday. He attributed the high pitch count to getting into his own head early in games.

"It's hard to explain, but there's just a string of a few batters every start where right at the end of my delivery, I lock up," Norris said after his last start. "It's like I'm thinking too much to try to throw a strike."
Norris is winless in his last six starts.

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• During his four years in the Majors, Norris has struggled against the Red Sox. Boston has hit .364 against the lefty in four meetings, which is tied for the highest average any team has against the Tigers' starter.

• While Pomeranz has been unable to consistently make it into the late innings this season, he still has been striking out batters at a healthy pace. His 71 strikeouts are third on the team behind Chris Sale (119) and Rick Porcello (78), but Pomeranz has reached his tally in 24 fewer innings than Porcello.

• Norris has only thrown six pitches at Fenway Park. On Sept. 5, 2014, as a member of the Toronto Blue Jays, the left-hander was called on from the bullpen to face David Ortiz. He struck Ortiz out looking on a 3-2 curveball.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170610235665958/sox-seek-efficient-pomeranz-sweep-of-tigers/?game_pk=491040
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on June 11, 2017, 01:23:53 AM
RED SOX LINEUP

Red Sox vs. DET:

Betts RF,
Pedroia 2B,
Bogaerts SS,
Ramirez DH,
Moreland 1B,
Young LF,
Rutledge 3B,
Bradley Jr. CF,
Vazquez C,

Pomeranz LHP
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 11, 2017, 07:13:29 AM
  Reminds me of my NAVY days, the fun does not start till the JUGGERNAUGHT gets there.... (The late inning offense)   thumb_u rofl iono
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on June 11, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
The dreaded Sunday night game...  Glad they don't have to travel.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on June 11, 2017, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on June 11, 2017, 07:13:29 AM
  Reminds me of my NAVY days, the fun does not start till the JUGGERNAUGHT gets there.... (The late inning offense)   thumb_u rofl iono

Indeed.  How about jumping to a big early lead in the first 3 inns for a change?  And the hope Pomeranz holds his own? thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 11, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 11, 2017, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on June 11, 2017, 07:13:29 AM
  Reminds me of my NAVY days, the fun does not start till the JUGGERNAUGHT gets there.... (The late inning offense)   thumb_u rofl iono

Indeed.  How about jumping to a big early lead in the first 3 inns for a change?  And the hope Pomeranz holds his own? thumb_u
  B I N G O   Dat  !!!! thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 11, 2017, 02:31:59 PM


Indeed.  How about jumping to a big early lead in the first 3 inns for a change?  And the hope Pomeranz holds his own? thumb_u

No such luck. Usual 1st inning hole.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
Got one run back, anyway.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 11, 2017, 08:02:36 PM
Couple nice plays by Xman. Still 3-1 Tigers.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 08:23:08 PM
Got another one back. This game is far from over.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 11, 2017, 08:25:57 PM
Golden opportunity wasted. Got 1 but could of been a big inning.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 08:34:45 PM
Game's about to get out of hand here.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 11, 2017, 08:44:52 PM
Tigers took a page out of the Sox playbook. Load them up and leave them.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 09:09:44 PM
Attaboy, Hembree. Putz.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 09:12:34 PM
Not one of Pom-pom's better outings.

Or Hembree's either, for that matter.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 11, 2017, 09:15:18 PM
HR only in Fenway. Bad pitch selection. Needed a slider there not a fastball. Inning started bad with the Xman error and finished bad.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 09:20:51 PM
It isn't finished yet. Maybe it's time to sit Hembree's worthless butt down.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 11, 2017, 09:42:22 PM
Plenty of chances to score but can't get the big hit.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on June 11, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Yankees beat the snot out of the O's again today, so the Sox will be falling back another game.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on June 11, 2017, 09:50:38 PM
On a good note Hanley got his 25th RBI this year! On pace for about 60!
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on June 11, 2017, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: markj on June 11, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Yankees beat the snot out of the O's again today, so the Sox will be falling back another game.

The AL East title is less a question of the Yankees cooling down (which they will at some point) than the Sox getting on a roll.  I simply don't see this team capable of getting on any sustained roll for 20 games or so to seize the opportunity. 
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on June 11, 2017, 10:15:52 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 11, 2017, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: markj on June 11, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Yankees beat the snot out of the O's again today, so the Sox will be falling back another game.

The AL East title is less a question of the Yankees cooling down (which they will at some point) than the Sox getting on a roll.  I simply don't see this team capable of getting on any sustained roll for 20 games or so to seize the opportunity.

If they lose tonight they'll be 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's a 65% winning percentage. The next 4 games are with the Phils so hopefully they can get 3 out of 4.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on June 12, 2017, 12:28:31 AM
Quote from: Schloicka on June 11, 2017, 10:15:52 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 11, 2017, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: markj on June 11, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Yankees beat the snot out of the O's again today, so the Sox will be falling back another game.

The AL East title is less a question of the Yankees cooling down (which they will at some point) than the Sox getting on a roll.  I simply don't see this team capable of getting on any sustained roll for 20 games or so to seize the opportunity.

If they lose tonight they'll be 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's a 65% winning percentage. The next 4 games are with the Phils so hopefully they can get 3 out of 4.

They will need 3 Ws out of that.  For sure.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on June 12, 2017, 07:30:41 AM
  A team of smoke & mirrors, when they win they look good, when they lose they look so lousy with break downs at every phase of the game.  That bullpen is not as good as they think & the starting pitching after Sale is always up & down.  Add in  the lack of   manufacturing runs and what is left is a 500 team at best.  I want changes, NOW GRASSHOPPER !!! thumb_d rofl slap
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on June 12, 2017, 08:30:30 AM
I agree.  Like I said before this is a poorly constructed team.  There are too many leadoff type batters and no recognized power hitter.  Hanley Ramirez is looking more and more like his idol Manny Ramirez without Manny's presence at the plate.  Hanley has become pull happy and has degenerated into a 240 hitter. 

Farrell has become an irrelevant presence in the dugout. 

What we have seen in the last sixty games is what we are going to see over the next one hundred, a slightly better than average ball club that will be largely uninspiring to watch except when we have an insufferable performance like last night.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on June 12, 2017, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on June 12, 2017, 08:30:30 AM
I agree.  Like I said before this is a poorly constructed team.  There are too many leadoff type batters and no recognized power hitter.  Hanley Ramirez is looking more and more like his idol Manny Ramirez without Manny's presence at the plate.  Hanley has become pull happy and has degenerated into a 240 hitter. 

Farrell has become an irrelevant presence in the dugout. 

What we have seen in the last sixty games is what we are going to see over the next one hundred, a slightly better than average ball club that will be largely uninspiring to watch except when we have an insufferable performance like last night.

The lack of a threat in the middle of the lineup is a huge problem for sure.  Moreland has the highest OPS in the lineup right now.  And that's great for him and the team.  He's turned out to be a nice pick up by Dombrowski.  But, no one expected Moreland to be the clean up guy which is where he's now the most reliable option. 

More worrisome are Porcello and Price.  Whatever offensive problems will pale in comparison if those 2 hit the skids.  Porcello is a mess right now.
Title: Re: GAME #62, DETROIT TIGERS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on June 12, 2017, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 12, 2017, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on June 12, 2017, 08:30:30 AM
I agree.  Like I said before this is a poorly constructed team.  There are too many leadoff type batters and no recognized power hitter.  Hanley Ramirez is looking more and more like his idol Manny Ramirez without Manny's presence at the plate.  Hanley has become pull happy and has degenerated into a 240 hitter. 

Farrell has become an irrelevant presence in the dugout. 

What we have seen in the last sixty games is what we are going to see over the next one hundred, a slightly better than average ball club that will be largely uninspiring to watch except when we have an insufferable performance like last night.

The lack of a threat in the middle of the lineup is a huge problem for sure.  Moreland has the highest OPS in the lineup right now.  And that's great for him and the team.  He's turned out to be a nice pick up by Dombrowski.  But, no one expected Moreland to be the clean up guy which is where he's now the most reliable option. 

More worrisome are Porcello and Price.  Whatever offensive problems will pale in comparison if those 2 hit the skids.  Porcello is a mess right now.

That's a $50M problem.