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Title: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 09, 2022, 09:53:15 AM
7:15PM Eastern

Red Sox

Kutter Crawford (R)

1. Rob Refsnyder (R) RF
2. Christian Vazquez (R) 1B
3. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
4. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
5. Alex Verdugo (L) LF
6. Trevor Story (R) 2B
7. Bobby Dalbec (R) 3B
8. Kevin Plawecki (R) C
9. Jarren Duran (L) CF

Yankees

Jordan Montgomery (L)

1. Aaron Judge (R) RF
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
3. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
4. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
5. Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
6. Matt Carpenter (L) LF
7. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
8. Isiah Kiner-Falefa (R) SS
9. Kyle Higashioka (R) C

Gametime Temp: 70°F
Chance of Precip: 0%
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 09, 2022, 02:00:37 PM
I hope that nasty curve crawford showed up with last weekend plays today.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 09, 2022, 09:04:44 PM
Looks like Crawford had a decent start. I hate I missed it. Turned it on just in time to see Plawecki throw out someone.

I vote nobody mess with JD about forcing the HR thing.

I also vote whoever is calling the game for Fox not be allowed back in the booth. The old catcher pieriz.....ski is always entertaining, but that other dude pretending he knows what he's talking about is annoying. 
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 09, 2022, 09:13:24 PM
Well at least the Sox got to Holmes and tied the game.  Of course now they have to find a way to hold off the Yankees and then score again.  Has Story had a hit with men on base since that week he was on a tear? 

Play by play guy is pretty bad.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 09, 2022, 09:20:02 PM
Of course they give up a lead off walk to start the 9th…
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 09, 2022, 09:26:04 PM
A walkoff here would be so very sweet.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 09, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
I have to say that I won't be sad to see Dalbec get traded.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 09, 2022, 09:30:41 PM
They better win this quick because it'll be all over if Diekman comes in.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 09, 2022, 09:35:36 PM
Yup, 3 pitches in.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 09, 2022, 09:56:22 PM
Wow, they did it! Way cool. They needed that.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 09, 2022, 09:57:23 PM
SOX WIN!  What an ending, I thought for sure it was over when they gave up 2 in the 10th, but what a way to win with the hit by Verdugo to score Jeter Downs! 

Sox and fans alike needed this shot in the arm.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on July 09, 2022, 10:02:46 PM
How about that! With the game on the line I would rather have Verdugo up than Bogey. Fred is right Bogey is not clutch.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on July 09, 2022, 10:06:50 PM
WOW!
The Sox actually win a game in extra innings AND against the Yankees.
Sox 6 - Yankees 5

Thank you Alex Verdugo!
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 09, 2022, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on July 09, 2022, 10:02:46 PM
How about that! With the game on the line I would rather have Verdugo up than Bogey. Fred is right Bogey is not clutch.

Great comeback win---and we needed that very badly.  Verdugo is more clutch than Bogaerts who I have said for years is not a good clutch hitter in the late innings except on very rare occasions.  Analytics make him look good because he gets hits, has a good batting average and scores runs.  Analytics today deemphasizes RBI's and that to me is still the telling point I use to judge hitters.....how they hit with men on bases.  Bogaerts has never been good at that and would be better in the #2 position where his pitiful RBI record would not bring down the team.  But it was a great win and I hope Elk that the team rallies from this and goes out and win tomorrow as well to split the series.  We're at home and the Red Sox should have enough fire and pride to go out there and win another one........and Cora gets mixed results.  He once again put Brasier in who stunk but got it right when he got his ass out of the game before it was too late.  Now we have to get his ass out of Boston as we did with Robles.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 09, 2022, 11:05:23 PM
That was big! Downs was flying off the crack of the bat. I didn't think he was gonna have a chance with Gallo out there.

Fred, I agree 100% with you on Bogey being a 2-hole hitter. Lead off wouldn't be bad either as he is an exceptional base runner.

Anyhow, nice win. Verdugo's been making contact for a while now. Great for him.

Woo hoo!
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on July 10, 2022, 12:04:49 AM
BOTH the Rays and Jays lost again.
RED SOX are still in second place in the AL EAST.
Rays losing to the Reds
Jays losing to the Mariners
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 10, 2022, 08:42:37 AM
Lost in all the thrilling win last night was quite a few happenings on the Roster.

- Feliz got DFA'd (possible he's back in worcester if he clears)
- Arroyo on 10-day IL with groin strain.
- Downs up, as we all know
- Kaleb Ort, the Worcester Closer for the past couple seasons finally got his 40-man spot and a call-up to Boston. Good for him. 30 years old. He got into a game last year, but I have no memory of it or how he threw.
- Hansel cleared waivers and the 'Sox released him.
- Seabold on the IL to no-one's surprise.

The big negative news is that Kike did his 4AB's as DH on his Worcester rehab assignment on Friday. He was supposed to start in CF on Saturday, but woke up sore. I think the term used on MLB.com was "Limbo". A few more weeks for Duran.

Darwinzon threw another scoreless and WALKLESS inning. He did give up one hit.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 10, 2022, 09:29:20 AM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 10, 2022, 08:42:37 AM
Lost in all the thrilling win last night was quite a few happenings on the Roster.

- Feliz got DFA'd (possible he's back in worcester if he clears)
- Arroyo on 10-day IL with groin strain.
- Downs up, as we all know
- Kaleb Ort, the Worcester Closer for the past couple seasons finally got his 40-man spot and a call-up to Boston. Good for him. 30 years old. He got into a game last year, but I have no memory of it or how he threw.
- Hansel cleared waivers and the 'Sox released him.
- Seabold on the IL to no-one's surprise.

The big negative news is that Kike did his 4AB's as DH on his Worcester rehab assignment on Friday. He was supposed to start in CF on Saturday, but woke up sore. I think the term used on MLB.com was "Limbo". A few more weeks for Duran.

Darwinzon threw another scoreless and WALKLESS inning. He did give up one hit.

You can pur Ort on the list of ex-Yanks picked up by Bloom, along wit!h Whitlock and German.  Last night he celebratedvthe deal with LA for Duggy and Downs.  The guy is a genius.  haha!
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on July 10, 2022, 10:17:51 AM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 10, 2022, 08:42:37 AM
Lost in all the thrilling win last night was quite a few happenings on the Roster.

- Feliz got DFA'd (possible he's back in worcester if he clears)
- Arroyo on 10-day IL with groin strain.
- Downs up, as we all know
- Kaleb Ort, the Worcester Closer for the past couple seasons finally got his 40-man spot and a call-up to Boston. Good for him. 30 years old. He got into a game last year, but I have no memory of it or how he threw.
- Hansel cleared waivers and the 'Sox released him.
- Seabold on the IL to no-one's surprise.

The big negative news is that Kike did his 4AB's as DH on his Worcester rehab assignment on Friday. He was supposed to start in CF on Saturday, but woke up sore. I think the term used on MLB.com was "Limbo". A few more weeks for Duran.

Darwinzon threw another scoreless and WALKLESS inning. He did give up one hit.

To put Kiki back in the lineup at the expense of Duran is both ludicrous and stupid.  Kiki has a career year last season but he was never a regular with the Dodgers and this year he reverted to what he used to be when he did start for a few weeks at a time.  He has no real future for a team that whether it wants to admit it or not is in a rebuilding mode.  Duran gives us a leadoff man who gets on base, steals bases and has shown he can hit in the Majors.  Why the Red Sox keep shooting themelves in the foot with dumb decisions like this is why they are a team that can never seem to keep building their winning ways but seem to dissolve after a banner year as they did after 2018.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 10, 2022, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 10, 2022, 08:42:37 AM
Lost in all the thrilling win last night was quite a few happenings on the Roster.

- Feliz got DFA'd (possible he's back in worcester if he clears)
- Arroyo on 10-day IL with groin strain.
- Downs up, as we all know
- Kaleb Ort, the Worcester Closer for the past couple seasons finally got his 40-man spot and a call-up to Boston. Good for him. 30 years old. He got into a game last year, but I have no memory of it or how he threw.
- Hansel cleared waivers and the 'Sox released him.
- Seabold on the IL to no-one's surprise.

The big negative news is that Kike did his 4AB's as DH on his Worcester rehab assignment on Friday. He was supposed to start in CF on Saturday, but woke up sore. I think the term used on MLB.com was "Limbo". A few more weeks for Duran.

Darwinzon threw another scoreless and WALKLESS inning. He did give up one hit.

Robles was also officially released. 

I don't think that Kike having a setback is a bad news.  Best news is he stays out as the Sox now have 2 OFs who are better than him with Duran and Refsnyder.  If Hernandez comes back, the corresponding move should be to dump JBJ. 

I couldn't find "late and close" stats on Bogey but his averages with men on base, etc. are all better than the MLB average.  But I agree with you because we've all seen it that he's just not the guy that rises to the big occasion.  Verdugo lives for those moments so becomes better in those moments.  Vazquez is becoming that kind of guy too, although sometimes I think these guys get hot and then think hitting is easy.  Speaking of hot, they made a good point last night that Verdugo had been on a 13 game hit streak I think it was, then sat a night and didn't hit for a few games.  Why sit a guy when he's hot? One more thing, what's up with Warning Track Martinez?  I love that we've got guys hitting at a good clip, but we need some power to get some runs on the board in bunches. 

Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 11, 2022, 06:02:23 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 10, 2022, 09:29:20 AM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 10, 2022, 08:42:37 AM
Lost in all the thrilling win last night was quite a few happenings on the Roster.

- Feliz got DFA'd (possible he's back in worcester if he clears)
- Arroyo on 10-day IL with groin strain.
- Downs up, as we all know
- Kaleb Ort, the Worcester Closer for the past couple seasons finally got his 40-man spot and a call-up to Boston. Good for him. 30 years old. He got into a game last year, but I have no memory of it or how he threw.
- Hansel cleared waivers and the 'Sox released him.
- Seabold on the IL to no-one's surprise.

The big negative news is that Kike did his 4AB's as DH on his Worcester rehab assignment on Friday. He was supposed to start in CF on Saturday, but woke up sore. I think the term used on MLB.com was "Limbo". A few more weeks for Duran.

Darwinzon threw another scoreless and WALKLESS inning. He did give up one hit.

You can pur Ort on the list of ex-Yanks picked up by Bloom, along wit!h Whitlock and German.  Last night he celebratedvthe deal with LA for Duggy and Downs.  The guy is a genius.  haha!
I had no idea Ort was a Yankee's product, too. I think I remembered he was a minor league rule-5 guy. I'm glad he had a good night last night.
Title: Re: GAME #85 - SATURDAY, JULY 9, 2022 - NEW YORK YANKEES @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 11, 2022, 06:25:30 AM
Fred and Longgame, I agree that Duran is part of the future and should be part of this right now.

Bogey's hitting .258 with RISP this season. 2 outs, RISP is .121. Something called "Late and Close" is .222. More stats on Baseball Reference's "Splits" section for Bogey here.  https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=bogaexa01&year=2022&t=b (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=bogaexa01&year=2022&t=b)

Vasquez's love of flair and looking like a big star leaves him undisciplined at times. Twice now in the past week or so he watched a wall ball instead of running his butt off and made it too close at 2nd. I think he got thrown out on a similar play on the road, but that could have been someone else. Otherwise, I am in his camp and thought he was under-rated offensive potential back in 2017 when he start going the other way at times.

As far as going the other way, if XB would stop selling out to pull side, his numbers we discussed above might improve big time. He's taken that out of his game from what I can see. He can hit opposite field as well as anyone.