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Title: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on October 28, 2022, 10:43:37 AM
Rooting for the Phillies. Not very confident, though.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on October 28, 2022, 12:19:33 PM
Maybe a good omen for the Phils, maybe.  Tonight's starter Verlander, has an 0-6 record as a starter in the WS, Tigers and Astros, a 5.78 WS ERA  in 38 IP.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: SeaBeachFred on October 28, 2022, 04:01:20 PM
I may lose a friend on this board but hopefully you will know where I'm coming from.  I'm rooting for the Astros to win the World Series, a position that has garnered both disappointment from some of my friends and colleagues our here in Southern California.  First I want Dusty Baker to win a World Series.  At his age he doesn't have too many more years of managing to look forward to and perhaps he might decide to go out a winner if he and his team can pull this off.  Hopefully he will not pull a Tony LaRussa and get greedy to wind up the mill again.  It also has been an irritation hearing Dodger fans out here still bellyaching about the cheating that deprived them of a WS victory, forgetting that they played pretty sloppy baseball and let a lot of potential big innings slip by in the 2017 Fall Classic.  Someone besides me should  tell them that they had a chance the next year and got waylaid by the Red Sox, annihilated by the Nationals in the 2019 NLDS, and then whipped soundly by the Braves last year in the World Series and creamed by the Padres this year in the NLDS after dominating the San Diego 14-5 during the regular season. Perhaps that outfit should just shut up and deal.  Anyway, I'm looking forward to the WS even though we aren't in it.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on October 28, 2022, 08:31:13 PM
I was about to write this game off and then Philly got 3 quick runs.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on October 28, 2022, 08:58:55 PM
Phillies tide it up. Very cool.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on October 28, 2022, 11:40:54 PM
Wow, Philly comes back from 5-0 to win it 6-5. Very impressive.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on October 29, 2022, 03:57:10 PM
Houston got all their offense from Tucker.  Phil's had a good book on all their other hitters.  The talking heads said Nola would get rocked with his breaking balls.  But that is what he stayed with most of the night.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on October 29, 2022, 10:23:50 PM
Phillies had no answer for Valdez, but managed a couple of runs off the BP. 'Stros got 3 quick runs early and added a 2-run dinger later. Didn't expect Philly to take both games, but going home with one game in the bag is a good thing.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on October 31, 2022, 11:25:09 AM
It will be interesting to see how the Phillies respond to the home crowd and if they start teeing off tonight.  I'd like to see them win, being the vast underdog and unlike Fred, I hate the Astros.  The only redeeming value is they have Vazquez.  Dusty was fine until he started talking about getting a call from his buddy, serial rapist Bill Cosby.  Just one more reason not to like that team. 

I like the underdog vibe and it seems like they have a team of Schwarbers, plus I love that DD gets to thumb his nose at Henry no matter what happens. 

Checked some stats - DD with the Sox - 396-277 (.588) with a WS win in 3rd full year.  DD with Philly - 169-155 (.522) in the WS in second year.  Bloom - 194-190 (.505) with an ALCS appearance that was the only winning team he has had and he dismantled it. 
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on November 01, 2022, 07:21:25 AM
I saw the Philly fans were calling out Verlander at the airport.  He responded by showing "the finger".  That got him tossed from the remainder of the series.  However they say Houston is stacked with quality pitchers and a few starters pitching out of the bullpen.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on November 01, 2022, 08:17:32 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on November 01, 2022, 07:21:25 AM
I saw the Philly fans were calling out Verlander at the airport.  He responded by showing "the finger".  That got him tossed from the remainder of the series.  However they say Houston is stacked with quality pitchers and a few starters pitching out of the bullpen.

I didn't see anything about him getting tossed for the series.  Do you have a link?  What I've seen is he's scheduled for Game 5. 
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on November 01, 2022, 08:24:20 AM
Quote from: longgame on November 01, 2022, 08:17:32 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on November 01, 2022, 07:21:25 AM
I saw the Philly fans were calling out Verlander at the airport.  He responded by showing "the finger".  That got him tossed from the remainder of the series.  However they say Houston is stacked with quality pitchers and a few starters pitching out of the bullpen.

I didn't see anything about him getting tossed for the series.  Do you have a link?  What I've seen is he's scheduled for Game 5.

I saw that on Twitter early this morning with the tag " suspended".  Media is such a trash pile, whether it's NBC or the local news station.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 01, 2022, 08:58:16 PM
Phillies are beating the snot out of Houston. Up 7-0 in the 6th.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on November 02, 2022, 07:57:29 AM
Phillies kicked butt. I love it.  I had a feeling they'd tee off when they got home.  Hope they keep it up for two more nights!
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 02, 2022, 10:31:30 PM
Last night the 'Stros got embarrassed. Tonight it was the Phillies who looked bad. Just the second World Series no hitter ever. Phillies pitcher suffered one bad inning, but that was plenty when the team couldn't buy a hit.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on November 03, 2022, 07:13:07 AM
[I can't seem to find this thread on the forumfrom day to day]

It was surreal to watch our (former) catcher assist in the no-hitter.  And watch our former slugger, who led the NL in homers (50) this year.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on November 03, 2022, 07:59:59 AM
Crazy that the Phillies set a record for World Series HRs in one game and get no-hit in the next.  Plus, really makes you appreciate Drysdale's feat even more - a perfect game and he didn't need three relievers to finish it. 

I'm hoping the Phillies didn't pull a 2021 Red Sox and get hot for a couple of games only to flame out. 
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: elktonnick on November 03, 2022, 08:20:30 AM
Kudos to Christian Vazquez who caught the game.  Sure wish Sox had players like him.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: SeaBeachFred on November 03, 2022, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on November 03, 2022, 07:13:07 AM
[I can't seem to find this thread on the forumfrom day to day]

It was surreal to watch our (former) catcher assist in the no-hitter.  And watch our former slugger, who led the NL in homers (50) this year.

That's baseball as the saying goes.  A team can blast the ball all over the lot one game and go dry the very next one, although what happened in games three and four do boggle the imagination a little if for nothing else the extreme in outcomes was very unique.  Well IMHO it's anybody's guess how this t hing shakes out but at least it is going back to Houston so  the Series will go on for at least two more game.  As for  your thread you don't have to rub it in Sea Dog.  Schwarber's 50 dongs this past season is an embarrassment to those who run our team and extremely irritating to all of us Red Sox fans.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: SeaBeachFred on November 03, 2022, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: longgame on November 03, 2022, 07:59:59 AM
Crazy that the Phillies set a record for World Series HRs in one game and get no-hit in the next.  Plus, really makes you appreciate Drysdale's feat even more - a perfect game and he didn't need three relievers to finish it. 

I'm hoping the Phillies didn't pull a 2021 Red Sox and get hot for a couple of games only to flame out.

Drysdale's feat Ted?  You've got me there.....and I thought I knew baseball trivia fairly well.  All I know about "Big "D" is that he once hurled 59 and a third innings of shutout ball in a row, but I don't think that is what you were talking about.  How about enlightening me about that.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 03, 2022, 08:49:18 PM
Phillies seem to be looking at a lot of 3rd strikes tonight.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 03, 2022, 11:04:03 PM
Close game, but 2 runs in 2 games isn't the way to win. Phillies batters seemed stymied again. Castellanos was a disaster following Harper at the plate. 0-4 and ended several innings, including the 9th. He kept stranding Harper.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on November 04, 2022, 07:49:57 AM
Quote from: longgame on November 03, 2022, 07:59:59 AM
Crazy that the Phillies set a record for World Series HRs in one game and get no-hit in the next.  Plus, really makes you appreciate Drysdale's feat even more - a perfect game and he didn't need three relievers to finish it. 

I'm hoping the Phillies didn't pull a 2021 Red Sox and get hot for a couple of games only to flame out.

One big reason Sox flamed out last year â€"- guy named Framber Valdez. As Big Papi said last night, “unhittable,” he quited Boston last year, crushed the Yankees bats last week, and is throwing in Game 6.  But it seems like Houston had 3-4 of those incredible pitchers.  The Sox and most of the AL teams are maybe 4-5 years behind that development.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on November 04, 2022, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on November 03, 2022, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: longgame on November 03, 2022, 07:59:59 AM
Crazy that the Phillies set a record for World Series HRs in one game and get no-hit in the next.  Plus, really makes you appreciate Drysdale's feat even more - a perfect game and he didn't need three relievers to finish it. 

I'm hoping the Phillies didn't pull a 2021 Red Sox and get hot for a couple of games only to flame out.

Drysdale's feat Ted?  You've got me there.....and I thought I knew baseball trivia fairly well.  All I know about "Big "D" is that he once hurled 59 and a third innings of shutout ball in a row, but I don't think that is what you were talking about.  How about enlightening me about that.

Brain fart - Don Larsen.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: SeaBeachFred on November 04, 2022, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: longgame on November 04, 2022, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on November 03, 2022, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: longgame on November 03, 2022, 07:59:59 AM
Crazy that the Phillies set a record for World Series HRs in one game and get no-hit in the next.  Plus, really makes you appreciate Drysdale's feat even more - a perfect game and he didn't need three relievers to finish it. 

I'm hoping the Phillies didn't pull a 2021 Red Sox and get hot for a couple of games only to flame out.

Drysdale's feat Ted?  You've got me there.....and I thought I knew baseball trivia fairly well.  All I know about "Big "D" is that he once hurled 59 and a third innings of shutout ball in a row, but I don't think that is what you were talking about.  How about enlightening me about that.

Brain fart - Don Larsen.

Thanks Ted.   You had be going for a whole day with that Drysdale thing.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 05, 2022, 09:20:06 PM
Was a close game for quite a while. But again, Phillies can't buy a run except for Swarber's occasional dingers. Never seems to be anyone on base when he hits one, though. And this Alvarado guy who came in from the BP is screwing up the game. Already gave up a 3-run dinger and then throws a wild pitch to put a runner in scoring position. Still hasn't recorded an out.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 05, 2022, 09:29:03 PM
Vaz just got an RBI. He's likely to earn another WS ring tonight.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: elktonnick on November 05, 2022, 09:48:59 PM
Both Schwarber and Vazquez are having a good game and series.  As we all have said repeatedly since the playoffs began, wish the Red Sox had players like them.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 05, 2022, 10:33:48 PM
Phillies offense went AWOL after their big 7-0 win. That's a shame because they're a better team than the record will show. I'm glad Vaz gets a WS ring after they way the Sox screwed him over. But I hate seeing that cheating bastard Altuve with a smile on his face.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: markj on November 05, 2022, 10:39:28 PM
NOTE: As a reminder, I'll soon be upgrading the site to current PHP standards and then upgrading the forum software. I'll give it a week or so until some of the other stuff going on is settled. Maybe Thanksgiving week will be a good time to do it. But when that happens, the site may be down for a day or two.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on November 07, 2022, 07:38:15 AM
I find the comparisons to last year's ALCS striking.  Sox came out like gangbusters, especially Kike who apparently earned his contract extension then since he hasn't done anything since.  Then Houston just shut down the offense completely.  They definitely deserved it although I hate the team, but I'm happy for Vaz, who simply delivered every time in his limited opportunities.

Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: SeaBeachFred on November 07, 2022, 12:00:21 PM
Quote from: longgame on November 07, 2022, 07:38:15 AM
I find the comparisons to last year's ALCS striking.  Sox came out like gangbusters, especially Kike who apparently earned his contract extension then since he hasn't done anything since.  Then Houston just shut down the offense completely.  They definitely deserved it although I hate the team, but I'm happy for Vaz, who simply delivered every time in his limited opportunities.

Ted, as you know I wanted the Astros to win.   Reasons vary but the most important to me was that I wanted Dusty Baker to have that ring after such a long and successful reign as a manager minus the one thing that could get in into the Hall of Fame.  Another reason is, living in the Los Angeles area, I am up to here (top of my head) hearing all those disgusting Dodger fans keep harping on 2017, as if the Astros weren't capable of ever winning one honestly.  The Dodgers had numerous chances of winning one of the first two games in LA and didn't, and they couldn't hit in the clutch in those games in Houston.  LA blew it; their hitters just froze in key situations.  Then we can look at 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2022, not to mention those o ther times since 2013 when they got the big apple in their throats.  Besides, if their is blame to go around it stands front and center w ith our manager who was the brains behind the cheating and he is still managing, unfortunately w ith us.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on November 07, 2022, 02:21:23 PM
The Astros were clearly the best team in baseball this year, as much as it pains me to admit it.  But the NL playoff implosions really helped. 
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: elktonnick on November 07, 2022, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: longgame on November 07, 2022, 02:21:23 PM
The Astros were clearly the best team in baseball this year, as much as it pains me to admit it.  But the NL playoff implosions really helped.
Live by analytics die by analytics.  The Dodgers let the nerds manage their playoff run.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: SeaBeachFred on November 07, 2022, 10:30:02 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on November 07, 2022, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: longgame on November 07, 2022, 02:21:23 PM
The Astros were clearly the best team in baseball this year, as much as it pains me to admit it.  But the NL playoff implosions really helped.
Live by analytics die by analytics.  The Dodgers let the nerds manage their playoff run.

Right again Elk, and you might have mentioned what the Phillies did on Sunday when they took out their ace pitcher with a 1-0 lead and put in a left to face a lefty even though the hit ter has hit better against southpaws than righties.  Plus the fact  that Thompson's reliever had been a little ineffective of late.  I'm told that Dusty Baker has actually gotten into hot water at times with his analytic buzzards in the front office because he uses analytics very sparingly.  Maybe some other teams will take the hint and do what Dusty does and use analytics when he feel HE must and not the pencil neck geeks who never played the game, coached the game and learned what little baseball they know from the computer printouts.
Title: Re: 2022 World Series
Post by: longgame on November 08, 2022, 07:30:12 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on November 07, 2022, 10:30:02 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on November 07, 2022, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: longgame on November 07, 2022, 02:21:23 PM
The Astros were clearly the best team in baseball this year, as much as it pains me to admit it.  But the NL playoff implosions really helped.
Live by analytics die by analytics.  The Dodgers let the nerds manage their playoff run.

Right again Elk, and you might have mentioned what the Phillies did on Sunday when they took out their ace pitcher with a 1-0 lead and put in a left to face a lefty even though the hit ter has hit better against southpaws than righties.  Plus the fact  that Thompson's reliever had been a little ineffective of late.  I'm told that Dusty Baker has actually gotten into hot water at times with his analytic buzzards in the front office because he uses analytics very sparingly.  Maybe some other teams will take the hint and do what Dusty does and use analytics when he feel HE must and not the pencil neck geeks who never played the game, coached the game and learned what little baseball they know from the computer printouts.

That had to be one of the worst decisions I've ever seen.  He was cruising.  He's great against lefties.  Alvarez is a dangerous hitter.  So he makes the move and the rest is history.  You go with the hot hand while you have them.  I was listening on the radio guys and they said it was likely pre-planned, if he gets a couple of guys on with a lefty coming up they were going to pull him.  Dumb.