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Title: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 24, 2022, 10:05:56 AM
1:35PM Eastern

Red Sox

Brayan Bello (R)

1. Jarren Duran (L) CF
2. Christian Vazquez (R) C
3. Alex Verdugo (L) DH
4. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
5. Franchy Cordero (L) LF
6. Bobby Dalbec (R) 1B
7. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) RF
8. Yolmer Sanchez (S) 2B
9. Jeter Downs (R) 3B

Blue Jays

Ross Stripling (R)

1. George Springer (R) CF
2. Vladimir Guerrero (R) 1B
3. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. (R) DH
4. Bo Bichette (R) SS
5. Teoscar Hernandez (R) RF
6. Cavan Biggio (L) 2B
7. Matt Chapman (R) 3B
8. Raimel Tapia (L) LF
9. Danny Jansen (R) C

Gametime Temp: 90°F
Chance of Precip: 0%
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 24, 2022, 10:46:02 AM
Wow, the OF is a mess.  For the third game Duran is the CF.  He is just lost out there.  JBJ is the natural CF, but plays RF, tough at Fenway.  Verdugo plays mostly LF, but he is average at RF.  Raphaela will be the next good CF, but he is two years away.  Can Bloom find an OF somewhere, not named Conforto.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 24, 2022, 01:00:39 PM
Oh my.  Bello finally got out of the 1st, but the scoreboard guys in left may run out of numbers today.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 24, 2022, 01:06:02 PM
Tuned in at the beginning of the bottom of the 1st.  Imagine my “surprise” that they’ve already blown this game before even coming to bat.  I was able to back up and see the crappy pitching and defense for myself.  Let’s see how we can run into some outs now.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on July 24, 2022, 01:21:32 PM
This team has achieved a new level of suck.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on July 24, 2022, 01:22:04 PM
Looks like another loss.

The Red Sox were 11 games over .500 at the end
of June.  AND today will probably be at .500.

SAD . . .

Crazy to think that the only teams in the AL EAST that the
Red Sox have beat in July was the New York Yankees.
Can't beat the Rays or Jays . . .

ON another note - Congratulations to Big Papi - David Ortiz on
being inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on July 24, 2022, 02:14:49 PM
Bello's era is now 10.50. If he's the best pitcher in the minors the Sox are in trouble.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 24, 2022, 02:26:42 PM
Meet your Bloom Sox.  These are the guys Bloom wants to play and you can see they can’t hit, pitch or field.  From now on they are the Bloom Sox.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 24, 2022, 04:11:42 PM
I can’t imagine there was not one AAA batter, aside from Casas, who had MLB potential.  DD must have emptied the farm. Still in all of the trades made by Bloomer to build up the minors, it looks like2024-25 before any of these prospects can reform well in Boston.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on July 24, 2022, 04:15:33 PM
May be the last time we see the Sox at or above .500 this season.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on July 24, 2022, 04:24:30 PM
Sox now 4/17 since starting to play TB, Yanks, TB, Yanks and Jays in a row.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 24, 2022, 05:23:45 PM
Glad I missed most of this. I was able to catch the last 1-1/2 innings. I see we made 3 errors. Oh joy!

How in the heck do you swing at a 98mph pitch 2 inches up and in and still get a decent hit to RF? Let the shell shock continue for Ort, too.

Come to think of it, I'm missed a lot of bad innings the past few days.

Congrats to Papi! He deserves it 10 times over.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 25, 2022, 06:55:42 AM
The Sox are 14-31 vs the ALEast, 39-13against the other teams (my math may be a little off).  That is not just bad luck or bad baseball.  IMO it is a lot of “beat dog syndrome”,  the players are flat intimidated playing the division teams.  And that comes down to the manager, where the buck stops.  Bloom started the chain of events with his clown show of moves n the off -season. 

Boston fan my be more interested in Celtics and Durant in July. That should bother Henry.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on July 25, 2022, 07:16:20 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 25, 2022, 06:55:42 AM
The Sox are 14-31 vs the ALEast, 39-13against the other teams (my math may be a little off).  That is not just bad luck or bad baseball.  IMO it is a lot of “beat dog syndrome”,  the players are flat intimidated playing the division teams.  And that comes down to the manager, where the buck stops.  Bloom started the chain of events with his clown show of moves n the off -season. 

Boston fan my be more interested in Celtics and Durant in July. That should bother Henry.

Since I don't live in  Boston, do not listen to sports radio regularly but those who do tell me that Bostonian are really pissed at Henry.  If he does not either find a way to keep Bogey and Devers or get big named talent fans are ready to revolt.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 25, 2022, 08:14:35 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 25, 2022, 06:55:42 AM
The Sox are 14-31 vs the ALEast, 39-13against the other teams (my math may be a little off).  That is not just bad luck or bad baseball.  IMO it is a lot of “beat dog syndrome”,  the players are flat intimidated playing the division teams.  And that comes down to the manager, where the buck stops.  Bloom started the chain of events with his clown show of moves n the off -season. 

Boston fan my be more interested in Celtics and Durant in July. That should bother Henry.

I'm actually amazed that whenever I listen to Boston talk radio, regardless of the time of year, they want to talk about the Patriots.  I imagine that will change as the Pats enter a stretch where they aren't winning all the time.  The Celtics are hot but Boston runs hot and cold on them, ditto the Bruins.  But the Sox seem to be actively want their fans to go away. 
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on July 25, 2022, 08:24:47 AM
Quote from: longgame on July 25, 2022, 08:14:35 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 25, 2022, 06:55:42 AM
The Sox are 14-31 vs the ALEast, 39-13against the other teams (my math may be a little off).  That is not just bad luck or bad baseball.  IMO it is a lot of “beat dog syndrome”,  the players are flat intimidated playing the division teams.  And that comes down to the manager, where the buck stops.  Bloom started the chain of events with his clown show of moves n the off -season. 

Boston fan my be more interested in Celtics and Durant in July. That should bother Henry.

I'm actually amazed that whenever I listen to Boston talk radio, regardless of the time of year, they want to talk about the Patriots.  I imagine that will change as the Pats enter a stretch where they aren't winning all the time.  The Celtics are hot but Boston runs hot and cold on them, ditto the Bruins.  But the Sox seem to be actively want their fans to go away.
If Henry fails to sign Devers, they will.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on July 25, 2022, 04:19:33 PM
I don't know what's said up there, but I'd be far more PO'd if we don't start keeping our key players. Getting additional big names doesn't matter so much to me as keeping our own. Yes, it'd be nice when we're a piece or two away like not getting Encarcione a few years back. I could care less if we pay some has-been $225M to come here despite the many reasons not to sign him. (reasons like sucking in playoffs, sucking against our arch-rivals, being mean to Papi, etc.)

When we need some final pieces, there's a big wide gap between some jerk wanting it all and the bargain basement. Just sayin'. I don't want to be the Yankees just as much as I don't want to be the Rays.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on July 26, 2022, 07:55:03 AM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 25, 2022, 04:19:33 PM
I don't know what's said up there, but I'd be far more PO'd if we don't start keeping our key players. Getting additional big names doesn't matter so much to me as keeping our own. Yes, it'd be nice when we're a piece or two away like not getting Encarcione a few years back. I could care less if we pay some has-been $225M to come here despite the many reasons not to sign him. (reasons like sucking in playoffs, sucking against our arch-rivals, being mean to Papi, etc.)

When we need some final pieces, there's a big wide gap between some jerk wanting it all and the bargain basement. Just sayin'. I don't want to be the Yankees just as much as I don't want to be the Rays.

That has been the fatal flaw of late.  From Beni to Betts, going back to Fisk and Lynn, they don't sign players the fans love and want to see.  Sports runs on generations of fans following them.  I've seen it with the Panthers who used to have all opposing team fans at all of their games but now young families have grown up as Panthers fans.  Fans don't want to cheer for laundry, they want hometown heroes.
Title: Re: GAME #96 - SUNDAY, JULY 24, 2022 - TORONTO BLUE JAYS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on July 26, 2022, 08:18:41 AM
Theres another dynamic to passing up and not extending our home grown stars.  Supposedly we outbid the Cubs for the Japanese OF Suzuki, outbid the Yanks for Corey Kuber a Mass native.  There's groups of players who likely don't want to play in Boston for whatever price.  The management team has to be proactive.  Like Ted said, you can't try to dictate the market, the players mostly determine the market.  And probably there's still some resentment of the owners/our owner, from the lockout.