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Title: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: markj on April 26, 2022, 07:24:42 AM
7:07PM Eastern

Red Sox

Nick Pivetta (R)

1. Trevor Story (R) 2B
2. Alex Verdugo (L) LF
3. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
4. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
5. Enrique Hernandez (R) CF
6. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) RF
7. Bobby Dalbec (R) 1B
8. Christian Arroyo (R) 3B
9. Christian Vazquez (R) C

Blue Jays

Kevin Gausman (R)

1. George Springer (R) RF
2. Bo Bichette (R) SS
3. Vladimir Guerrero (R) DH
4. Zack Collins (L) C
5. Matt Chapman (R) 3B
6. Raimel Tapia (L) LF
7. Santiago Espinal (R) 2B
8. Gosuke Katoh (L) 1B
9. Bradley Zimmer (L) CF

Gametime Temp: 44°F
Chance of Precip: 14%
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on April 26, 2022, 07:59:25 AM
You hate to place importance on an early season game, but this is big on two fronts. Get out of this downwards spiral as a team and hopefully being able to chalk up Pivetta's rough start as just a rough start.

Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: longgame on April 26, 2022, 12:11:56 PM
Plus Gausman pitched well the other day.  I'm not even sure I want to watch them anymore until they start showing up.  Of course I will anyhow....
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: longgame on April 26, 2022, 02:39:51 PM
Lack of offense?  Let's give Devers the day off.   ::)
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on April 26, 2022, 07:23:46 PM
You'd think they'd get this figured out by now - the tech, I mean.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: markj on April 26, 2022, 07:41:03 PM
Gausman causing a lot of grief with those looking at called 3rd strikes.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: markj on April 26, 2022, 08:44:42 PM
Sox finally find some offense after Gausman gets pulled. So far the Sox BP has been doing well. Sox up 3-2 with more scoring chances.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: markj on April 26, 2022, 08:54:03 PM
Sox get a couple more. Kike gets thrown out by a mile and ends the inning, but Sox up 5-2 now.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: elktonnick on April 26, 2022, 09:19:30 PM
Diekman why?
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: markj on April 26, 2022, 09:27:13 PM
Unreal. Sox BP does stellar work all night and Diekman comes in and blows a 3-run lead. WTF.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on April 26, 2022, 09:27:25 PM
that stinks on ice.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: elktonnick on April 26, 2022, 09:28:19 PM
Another stupid managerial move by Venable.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: markj on April 26, 2022, 09:58:31 PM
Sox continue to find ways to lose.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: elktonnick on April 26, 2022, 09:59:58 PM
The Red Sox entire approach towards pitching has sucked for the past 4 years.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 26, 2022, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 26, 2022, 09:28:19 PM
Another stupid managerial move by Venable.

Venable is a walking cancer in the dugout.  He has made one stupid move after another and it seems those moves wind up killing us with booming, smashing and confidence killing home runs.  Get this butt out of Boston quick.  I don't think he has made one decent move since he has taken over for the RFC.  I'm not watching any more games for at least a month and if some of this trash we have playing for us are still polluting  the team it will be longer.  And what the #$%& is Bradley doing batting up in the lineup.  I told all of you that you can't do that with him because he will go south in a hurry, now below the Mendoza Line.  But JBJ has good company.  As shitty as he is Vegetable Venable is worse.  Somebody get a cigarette and a blindfold to this piece of managerial crap.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on April 26, 2022, 10:59:03 PM
A true tease in the 8th inning.
FINALLY scored some runs.
Really thought we might win this game . . .
Only for the bullpen to blow the game with two outs
in the 9th inning (I know we lost in the 10th .  .)

The Starting Pitchers are doing their jobs.
WTF?????

So sad watching this team.

Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on April 27, 2022, 06:34:29 AM
Brasier and Diekman have WHIP's over 2.0. Crawford is sporting a 2.42.
There is nobody out there right now. Davis - our #4 depth-chart(in my mind) Lefty in the pen when Taylor ges ready.  These guys are scuffling just like the offense is scuffling.
Josh Taylor isn't close yet. Worcester is giving up runs by the bushel.

As far as Venable goes, yes, we could second guess till the cows come home. Eck said it best. Nothing is working. My bigger problem with him is that he is a no-show when his players are getting screwed over by the HP ump. Right now, on borderline pitches, Veneble is the path of least resistance. Cora would be yelling at them to wake up and get in the game or whatever it is he says. It's almost as painful as these late any inning leads we've been plundering.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on April 27, 2022, 07:15:49 AM
Looking back, the Sox are in decline because of off-season moves by Bloom.
When faced with holes in the outfield by trading Renfroe for JBJ, letting Schwarber walk, Bloom went on the cheap by repositioning Arroyo (.182 avg), while not hotly pursuing Suzuki (hitting .327), Castellanos (.313).  Our other batters have come down to earth after an above average 2021, likely unsustainable.

The pitching -- the moves made before the lockout were not worthy of a big market club wanting to compete in a tough ALE.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: elktonnick on April 27, 2022, 07:21:25 AM
My problem with the Red Sox is their entire philosophical approach towards pitching.  They over manage and under utilize their pitchers.  Instead of this constant changing pitchers every three batters or not stretching starters they manage by algorithms.  Try managing in response to what is actually happening on the field instead of by some prescripted formula.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: elktonnick on April 27, 2022, 07:22:34 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 27, 2022, 07:15:49 AM
Looking back, the Sox are in decline because of off-season moves by Bloom.
When faced with holes in the outfield by trading Renfroe for JBJ, letting Schwarber walk, Bloom went on the cheap by repositioning Arroyo (.182 avg), while not hotly pursuing Suzuki (hitting .327), Castellanos (.313).  Our other batters have come down to earth after an above average 2021, likely unsustainable.

The pitching -- the moves made before the lockout were not worthy of a big market club wanting to compete in a tough ALE.

Yup!!!
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: longgame on April 27, 2022, 07:47:00 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 27, 2022, 07:15:49 AM
Looking back, the Sox are in decline because of off-season moves by Bloom.
When faced with holes in the outfield by trading Renfroe for JBJ, letting Schwarber walk, Bloom went on the cheap by repositioning Arroyo (.182 avg), while not hotly pursuing Suzuki (hitting .327), Castellanos (.313).  Our other batters have come down to earth after an above average 2021, likely unsustainable.

The pitching -- the moves made before the lockout were not worthy of a big market club wanting to compete in a tough ALE.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.  Of course, we all did say this while Bloom slept through the offseason.
Title: Re: GAME #18 - TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2022 - BOSTON RED SOX @ TORONTO BLUE JAYS
Post by: longgame on April 27, 2022, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 27, 2022, 07:21:25 AM
My problem with the Red Sox is their entire philosophical approach towards pitching.  They over manage and under utilize their pitchers.  Instead of this constant changing pitchers every three batters or not stretching starters they manage by algorithms.  Try managing in response to what is actually happening on the field instead of by some prescripted formula.

I’d start with throwing strikes.  I can’t stand to see another reliever walking the first guy he sees. But you’re right and we see the effects of it.  They underuse their starters when they are going well, putting pressure on the bullpen, which isn’t very good.