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Title: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 10:13:14 AM
4:20PM Eastern

Red Sox

Nathan Eovaldi (R)

1. Kyle Schwarber (L) 1B
2. Enrique Hernandez (R) CF
3. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
4. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
5. Alex Verdugo (L) LF
6. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
7. Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
8. Kevin Plawecki (R) C
9. Christian Arroyo (R) 2B

Astros

Luis Garcia (R)

1. Jose Altuve (R) 2B
2. Michael Brantley (L) LF
3. Alex Bregman (R) 3B
4. Yordan Alvarez (L) DH
5. Carlos Correa (R) SS
6. Kyle Tucker (L) RF
7. Yuli Gurriel (R) 1B
8. Chas McCormick (R) CF
9. Martin Maldonado (R) C

Gametime Temp: 80°F
Chance of Precip: 0%
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on October 16, 2021, 10:40:16 AM
If the Red Sox are going to score only three runs in eight innings and just try and hold serve again today, they should just mail in a loss.  WE NEED TO HIT BETTER THIS AFTERNON AND SCORE BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN RUNS AND MR. cRutch bOGAERTS NEEDS TO FINALLY STAND UP AND BE A CLUTCH HITTER FOR A CHANGE.  HIS CONSTANT FAILINGS IN KEY SITUATIONS HAS BECOME A DISGUSTING SIGHT WHICH POINTS TO MY CONSTANT BICKERING OF HIM.  He is not equipped to be a no. 1 or 2 option and never has been.  He needs to be dropped down to sixth in the order.  In addition what the hell was Cora thinking pinch hitting that bum Santana for Renfroe in the eighth.  I swear to Buddah that for some reason Cora has an itch he can't scratch when it comes to his favorites on the team.  We saw it all season with the rotten has-been Marwin Gonzales who failed over and over again and was kept in the lineup until Bloom finally sent him away.  The team needs to hit and score, hit in the clutch and use their best relievers if they want to win today.  A loss and we are done.  And no damn Santana anywhere near the batter's box!!!!!
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: Bill-806 on October 16, 2021, 02:30:02 PM
LETS GET OUR 8 RUNS TODAY/NIGHT !!! THEN BACK TO THE FEN'S FOR SOME HOMECOOKING  !! GO SX !! thumb_u thumb_u rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 04:15:26 PM
Way to go, JD. Hopefully that isn't the end of their scoring today.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on October 16, 2021, 04:16:02 PM
Did they mention the streak Sox are on leading in the 1st?
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 04:24:52 PM
Wow, two grannies. Lovin' this.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 05:00:35 PM
Kike loves this park. Another dinger.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 05:10:51 PM
This ump is giving Odorizzi a big strike zone.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 05:26:32 PM
Eovaldi was within one strike of ending this inning. Now it's 9-3. That long AB where he ended up walking the guy messed with his head, I think.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on October 16, 2021, 05:33:31 PM
Paper bag moment, for sure. Except I was chanting "cora? cora? Cora?" like Ben Stein's "Buehler? Buehler? Buehler? after Correa's base hit to make it 9-3
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on October 16, 2021, 05:44:57 PM
awesome bounce back inning. I feel like I'm 55 again.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 06:11:29 PM
Sox need to wake up and realize this game is not over. And apparently this ump's big strike zone is reserved for Astros pitchers only.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 06:24:37 PM
Renfroe has been awful at the plate lately. 0-4 with 3 K's today. Swinging at crap like he doesn't care.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on October 16, 2021, 07:07:05 PM
Nice of Xander to pop an opposite field doinker down the line. I'd love to see him continue that. It slows the game down for him.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 07:14:09 PM
JD could have hit that ball anywhere else and it wouldn't have been a DP. Sox just find ways to GIDP. Although Xander didn't work too hard to avoid that tag, either.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: Schloicka on October 16, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
Quote from: markj on October 16, 2021, 07:14:09 PM
JD could have hit that ball anywhere else and it wouldn't have been a DP. Sox just find ways to GIDP. Although Xander didn't work too hard to avoid that tag, either.

Should of slid back to 3rd.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: elktonnick on October 16, 2021, 07:24:45 PM
Why does Cora put us through this needless ordeal by bringing in Hernandez.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 07:25:30 PM
Get him out of there!! WTF, Cora?
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 07:27:27 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on October 16, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
Quote from: markj on October 16, 2021, 07:14:09 PM
JD could have hit that ball anywhere else and it wouldn't have been a DP. Sox just find ways to GIDP. Although Xander didn't work too hard to avoid that tag, either.

Should of slid back to 3rd.

Exactly what I was thinking. Go low and he would have missed the tag.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: elktonnick on October 16, 2021, 07:27:32 PM
You know Hernandez is incapable of getting three outs.  He might as well put in Braiser to begin with.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on October 16, 2021, 07:29:07 PM
Brutal! Can't blame Cora for trying, but damned brutal. Last  - lessee, 5 batters - 3 HRs and 3 more inherited runners scored. I wonder what mysterious "injury" DH will have on the way home.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: longgame on October 16, 2021, 07:29:12 PM
I can’t imagine any scenario where they would bring in Hernandez again in a Sox uniform unless it’s down to a position player pitching. You could see Raffy yelling at him to get his act together. 

But I was amazed.  I was out hiking, got to my car around 5:30 expecting the game to be half over and it’s 8-0 with 1 down in the 2nd.

Mark, you have to chill out man!
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 07:30:43 PM
Good thing they had 9 runs to play with.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: elktonnick on October 16, 2021, 07:33:12 PM
Sox win!  Great win but Cora needs to cut out the needless drama by using Hernandez.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: markj on October 16, 2021, 07:36:34 PM
Quote from: longgame on October 16, 2021, 07:29:12 PM
I can’t imagine any scenario where they would bring in Hernandez again in a Sox uniform unless it’s down to a position player pitching. You could see Raffy yelling at him to get his act together. 

But I was amazed.  I was out hiking, got to my car around 5:30 expecting the game to be half over and it’s 8-0 with 1 down in the 2nd.

Mark, you have to chill out man!

We were out hiking, too. Got back to see it was 4-0 and then saw Raffy's granny. Went for another walk a bit ago and was happily surprised it was still 9-3 in the 9th when we got back. Then Hernandez got my BP up. But all is well. Time to fix a drink.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: Bill-806 on October 17, 2021, 07:01:34 AM
8 + RUNS ARE ALWAYS GOOD !!!!  GO SOX , BACK TO THE FEN'S !!! thumb_u thumb_u rofl rofl rofl rofl
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on October 17, 2021, 11:01:46 AM
Hernandez is pitching because they ran out of pitching last two days.  (I don’t think Pivetta pitched n Houston, saving him for a start?)  But Darwinzon might have been the only setup guy physically available before Brasier.  Imagine how bad Barnes and Davis are, who were sent down for Darwinzon. 

Houston has lost two starters in andMcCullers and Lopez. And Odorizzi looked awful.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on October 17, 2021, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on October 16, 2021, 07:33:12 PM
Sox win!  Great win but Cora needs to cut out the needless drama by using Hernandez.

Right you are Elk on all points.  Sox won, a great win and Cora has to stop this shit of trying to give his pets playing time.  Earth or Alex.  Hernandez will NEVER be a quality ML pitcher the Red Sox and you envision.  He is.  He is nothing Cora but one of your favorites and Bloom has to make damn certain that he clears out this debris from our team in the off season or we'll see these clowns out there because the manager likes them and wants to give them a chance.  They stink--Darwizon, Santana and te long gone lamented French Fry.  I never thought I would be glad to see Brasier with his straight as an arrow fastball and his penchant for getting hammered in the game but that is how disgusted I was at Darwizon.  Still, w e won and showed we can get the runs we needed yesterday, but this cannot be a one shot deal.  As long as Alex Cora is tempted to use some of our bullpen garbage a run shortage is always a threat to us.  And why wasn't Whitlock in the game in the ninth to close it out and bring the win into the clubhouse without all the bullshit Cora had to pull by insisting that Darwizon could get the job done.  He can't Alex and by now you had better know it.  Enjoy the day off guys.  We go home now and perhaps that will give us an advantage if the team and Cora can take full use of it
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on October 17, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on October 17, 2021, 11:01:46 AM
Hernandez is pitching because they ran out of pitching last two days.  (I don’t think Pivetta pitched n Houston, saving him for a start?)  But Darwinzon might have been the only setup guy physically available before Brasier.  Imagine how bad Barnes and Davis are, who were sent down for Darwinzon. 

Houston has lost two starters in andMcCullers and Lopez. And Odorizzi looked awful.

Sea Dog, my question is can we take advantage of what you wrote?  We may have to use starters in relief to win this ALCS because some of our relievers just aren't up to the job.  I remember how Alex Cora went this route in the 2018 World Series and it worked to perfection.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on October 17, 2021, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on October 17, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on October 17, 2021, 11:01:46 AM
Hernandez is pitching because they ran out of pitching last two days.  (I don’t think Pivetta pitched n Houston, saving him for a start?)  But Darwinzon might have been the only setup guy physically available before Brasier.  Imagine how bad Barnes and Davis are, who were sent down for Darwinzon. 

Houston has lost two starters in andMcCullers and Lopez. And Odorizzi looked awful.

Sea Dog, my question is can we take advantage of what you wrote?  We may have to use starters in relief to win this ALCS because some of our relievers just aren't up to the job.  I remember how Alex Cora went this route in the 2018 World Series and it worked to perfection.

Fred, I think we're missing two good pen guys, as Darwinzon and Sawamura are not dependable in a ALCS series.  Robles also scares me, being that his recent past was at Pittsburgh.  Yes, in those 2-3 slots, we're likely to use Pivetta, Sale, ERod when it gets to be a nailbiter game, although I see ERod is posted as starting Monday night.
Title: Re: ALCS GAME # 2 - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2021 - BOSTON RED SOX @ HOUSTON ASTROS
Post by: longgame on October 17, 2021, 06:20:48 PM
Yep E-Rod tomorrow.  Let’s hope we get the good E-Rod.  If things go according to “plan” it sounds like Pivetta in game 4 and Sale in game 5.  Long way to go at this point though.