7:02PM Eastern
Red Sox
Chris Sale (L)
1. Kyle Schwarber (L) 1B
2. Enrique Hernandez (R) CF
3. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
4. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
5. Alex Verdugo (L) LF
6. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
7. Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
8. Christian Vazquez (R) C
9. Christian Arroyo (R) 2B
Rays
Shane Baz (R)
1. Randy Arozarena (R) LF
2. Wander Franco (S) SS
3. Brandon Lowe (L) 2B
4. Nelson Cruz (R) DH
5. Yandy Diaz (R) 3B
6. Jordan Luplow (R) 1B
7. Manuel Margot (R) RF
8. Mike Zunino (R) C
9. Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF
Gametime Temp: 89°F
Chance of Precip: 0%
Looks like Raffy is showing a little worse for wear from Game 1. News about noon time. Cora says he's fine, but this is more to the point.
Rafael Devers is dealing with discomfort in his right forearm, according to a major-league source. The condition flares up when the Red Sox third baseman swings and misses but is not a problem when he makes contact.
Raffy needs to stop swinging for the fences and just swing to make contact. He'd be a lot more effective if he could get base hits more regularly. He also hits into the shift far too often.
Quote from: markj on October 08, 2021, 12:45:16 PM
Raffy needs to stop swinging for the fences and just swing to make contact. He'd be a lot more effective if he could get base hits more regularly. He also hits into the shift far too often.
YES & DE-DE , HE IS A SUCKER FOR THE HIGH FASTBALL !!!! TAMPA HAS HIS # !!!!! LAST NIGHT , TAMPA'S STARTER WAS SO DOMINANT OVER OUR HITTERS ....... I AM STILL P OED OVER THE THEFT OF HOME PLATE !!! A MUST WIN TONIGHT !!!! iono iono iono
Cora said last night that it's the kind of thing that you get through the season and nobody was worried about it the other day when he had a huge day.
Still no lineup posted which makes me think they really want Martinez in the lineup. Bill, they would play Schwarber at 1B which they've been doing. Veteran hitters against a guy with 3 starts, you'd think the Sox would have the advantage.
All I know is it's my birthday and I deserve a win! ;D
Quote from: longgame on October 08, 2021, 02:47:05 PM
Cora said last night that it's the kind of thing that you get through the season and nobody was worried about it the other day when he had a huge day.
Still no lineup posted which makes me think they really want Martinez in the lineup. Bill, they would play Schwarber at 1B which they've been doing. Veteran hitters against a guy with 3 starts, you'd think the Sox would have the advantage.
All I know is it's my birthday and I deserve a win! ;D
HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!! SCHWARB AT 1ST BASE CONCERNS ME ?? TAMPA BAY WOULD/WILL RUN HIM RAGGED & EXPOSE HIM , BIG TIME !!! T B IS THE REAL THING, CHEAP TOO !!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Meanwhile the CHICAGO WHITE SOX are about to lose again
to the Houston Astros 9 - 4.
Chicago got the lead in the top of the 5th inning, only to
let Houston tie up the game in the bottom of the inning.
Craig Kimbrel comes in to stop the scoring in the 7th inning and gives up
a double and homer - Astros score 5 runs in the 7th inning.
Another Sox out of action. Richards has a hamstring issue, replaced by Matt Barnes.
Ugh, Meatball Matt is back?
That explains Richards early exit, then.
Yay! 2 base hits for RBI!
More of this guys!
Cora must have figured that putting Barnes on the roster would scare the hitters into action!
crap!!!
Damn GIDP kills a good inning AGAIN. The Sox just can't live without 2 or 3 of these per game. So maddening.
And now Sale letting them right back in. Come on guys, tighten up here.
Oh my freaking God. A freaking grand slam by one of the worst guys in their lineup? What the hell is going on?
Chris Sale getting hammered while we let a rookie off the hook.
Quote from: longgame on October 08, 2021, 06:36:28 PM
Oh my freaking God. A freaking grand slam by one of the worst guys in their lineup? What the hell is going on?
Chris Sale getting hammered while we let a rookie off the hook.
THE BIG QUESTION , SHOULD/COULD HAVE SCHWARBER CAUGHT THAT GROUND BALL ?????? LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT , ON 1ST BASE WE HAVE NO GLOVE , ON 3RD BASE WE HAVE ONE ARM ...... HOW THE HECK ARE YOU GOING TO WIN GAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS LIKE THAT ?????? AS DAD WOULD SAY , "COME ON SON, LETS GO HOME " !!!! thumb_d thumb_d thumb_d thumb_d iono iono iono sigh sigh sigh rofl rofl rofl
Quote from: longgame on October 08, 2021, 02:47:05 PM
Cora said last night that it's the kind of thing that you get through the season and nobody was worried about it the other day when he had a huge day.
Still no lineup posted which makes me think they really want Martinez in the lineup. Bill, they would play Schwarber at 1B which they've been doing. Veteran hitters against a guy with 3 starts, you'd think the Sox would have the advantage.
All I know is it's my birthday and I deserve a win! ;D
Yes you do Ted and I wish Sale and Co. would appreciate that and comply. Happy Birthday my friend. Let's hope if the team can't give you a present tonight they will belatedly on Sunday.
Sale is becoming yet another high salary money pit. His last two starts have been awful.
Kike with a dinger to tie it up.
Finally a major clutch hit from JD. 3-run dinger makes it 8-5.
Nice to get a 3 run homer! Interesting game for sure. This is reminiscent of Sale’s last start - fall behind and come back. Still a long way to go though.
Maybe they should put Houck back in the rotation and stick Sale in the BP.
Guys, the Franco hit is on me and I apoligise. I knew better. I know better. still, they flashed hits stats for the game so far and I did some math and told the Battleaxe that he was working on over 9 perfect innings streak. Next pitch - sigh!
I accept punishment rendered as just and fair.
(ps - the subsequent Smoltz rant was so spot on. Taking out hot pitchers before their done....)
Hitter's ballpark tonight. Dinger City. Now 8-6 Sox.
Sigh. Yet another GIDP. At least this one didn't end the inning.
And lo-and-behold, Vaz drives in a run. Sox up 9-6.
Some great approaches tonight at the plate. Vazquez a couple times in a week now with late RBI staying back and knocking it over to the other side. thumb_u
Great inning by Brasier.
Schwarber hasn't done better at the plate than Dalbec.
Raffy with a 2-run dinger. Now 11-6.
Brasier pitched as mean as he looked. Hell of an inning.
Raffy’s hand looked okay.
Dalbec in. Cora wants defense and he's not getting anything from Schwarber on offense, so why not.
Quote from: longgame on October 08, 2021, 09:04:30 PM
Brasier pitched as mean as he looked. Hell of an inning.
Raffy’s hand looked okay.
He says it doesn't hurt when he makes contact and he definitely made contact there.
Arroyo with a blown play. Hope it doesn't cost them.
Attaboy, Robles. Good inning.
JD having a helluva night.
Vaz with another RBI. Everything is just rolling the Sox way tonight.
Dalbec has definitely lost his mojo. Somebody please find it for him.
Kike AGAIN!!! What a night!!! 14-6 Sox.
Kike found his mojo, though. thumb_u
Dalbec has hit some balls with authority the last two games. I hope it comes back soon.
Normally I'd be livid that Cora put Barnes in at the bottom of the 9th, but with an 8 run lead, ok. But have someone warming in the pen, please.
Effin' Barnes filling the bases. I really hope Cora has someone warming in the pen.
Great relief effort - until Barnes. He has lost it. Maybe have him move over a few inches since he’s yanking everything inside? Just don’t load them up for Arozarena.
Dalbec earned his pay right there with that play. They didn't get the DP, but it was close.
WTF, Barnes??? Throw a damn strike!!!
Finally!! Barnes can make any lead a nail biter.
There's your one win in TB, Fred.
Sox pound them great comeback win. But Barnes is a freaking mess. Cora do everyone a favor let's not see this meatball again until ST 22.
Quote from: elktonnick on October 08, 2021, 10:04:08 PM
Sox pound them great comeback win. But Barnes is a freaking mess. Cora do everyone a favor let's not see this meatball again until ST 22.
Let's not see this Meatball again, period. Full stop.
Eovaldi may be the ace of this staff now but Tanner Houck is the nbr 2.
Good on Mr Houck! Took him out at a good time, too. The hitting was great tonight. Lots of good ABs and non-gorilla hitting. Almost magically, when you hang back and see a few, big shots just sort of happen. Great stuff!
Barnes? Still bailing left instead of shoulders to the catcher. (for lack of better phrase)
My one and only ever spotting a pitcher tipping pitches as Smoltz in Boston. He was looking into his glove before breaking balls. Tigers pelted him. I posted something in a Boston Globe comments section after an article to point that out. No idea if they are archived anywhere, but my username for that one was VTtoNC, Too bad the Sox never saw it. The Cardinals picked up on what he was doing on their own and fixed it, and we ended up facing him either later or in the WS.
Quote from: Bill-806 on October 08, 2021, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: longgame on October 08, 2021, 06:36:28 PM
Oh my freaking God. A freaking grand slam by one of the worst guys in their lineup? What the hell is going on?
Chris Sale getting hammered while we let a rookie off the hook.
THE BIG QUESTION , SHOULD/COULD HAVE SCHWARBER CAUGHT THAT GROUND BALL ?????? LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT , ON 1ST BASE WE HAVE NO GLOVE , ON 3RD BASE WE HAVE ONE ARM ...... HOW THE HECK ARE YOU GOING TO WIN GAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS LIKE THAT ?????? AS DAD WOULD SAY , "COME ON SON, LETS GO HOME " !!!! thumb_d thumb_d thumb_d thumb_d iono iono iono sigh sigh sigh rofl rofl rofl
WELL, I GUESS I WAS "WRONG AGAIN" , ONCE WE GOT TO 8 RUNS IT FELT LIKE WE HAD A CHANCE !!!! BACK TO FENWAY PAAK !!! GO RED SOX !!! thumb_u thumb_u thumb_u iono iono iono rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
I was not pleased with the Robles trade when it happened. It was pretty easy to see why the Twins let him fly. 98mph one day, 94mph the next day and either being hit hard or hitting batters hard.
Just looking at the splits because I saw the end of season line on him last night when he pitched.He had a 0.00ERA with a .122BA against in Sept/October. AND, that's with Cora going to the well often with that hot hand, will wear out thing.
So kudos to Robles and whoever helped him.
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on October 09, 2021, 07:35:01 AM
I was not pleased with the Robles trade when it happened. It was pretty easy to see why the Twins let him fly. 98mph one day, 94mph the next day and either being hit hard or hitting batters hard.
Just looking at the splits because I saw the end of season line on him last night when he pitched.He had a 0.00ERA with a .122BA against in Sept/October. AND, that's with Cora going to the well often with that hot hand, will wear out thing.
So kudos to Robles and whoever helped him.
I think the Sox are playing with house money. IMO there is no way Henry/Bloom had much interest in tying up money and multi-years on pitching this year. The starters beyond Sale coming back and Houck were like a pig in a poke (not said condescendingly, the term really means a "roll of the dice"). When the Yanks, Padres, LA gobbled up most of the bullpen arms back in the Spring, the Sox dillydallied and ended up taking Ottavino and a gamble on Sawamura, that was there for the taking, after all the other Asian talent was gone. On top of that they named Barnes their closer! Besides some of these magical arms are overcooked this time of year, and aren't worth the millions, i.e. Kimbrell, Workman, Brad Hand, and have to include Yankees' Cole /cough!
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on October 09, 2021, 10:27:36 AM
I think the Sox are playing with house money. IMO there is no way Henry/Bloom had much interest in tying up money and multi-years on pitching this year. The starters beyond Sale coming back and Houck were like a pig in a poke (not said condescendingly, the term really means a "roll of the dice"). When the Yanks, Padres, LA gobbled up most of the bullpen arms back in the Spring, the Sox dillydallied and ended up taking Ottavino and a gamble on Sawamura, that was there for the taking, after all the other Asian talent was gone. On top of that they named Barnes their closer! Besides some of these magical arms are overcooked this time of year, and aren't worth the millions, i.e. Kimbrell, Workman, Brad Hand, and have to include Yankees' Cole /cough!
Fred, you ain't just whistlin' Dixie. This was a re-tooling year gone astray. There's no more evidence needed that what you said, but you can add that roster construction as exhibit-B.
Interesting comments from Mets' Marcus Stroman about Houck,
Tanner Houck keeping Boston in it with that cross-firing, long-levered, wipeout slider and running fastball. He gets some of the wildest swings out of the zone on that slider against elite hitters. The changeup is great too. Going to be fun to watch for years!
8:43 PM · Oct 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Cash also had some Houck accolades, after 5 IP, 1 run, 2 hits.
"So, what happened to the strong Rays offense against Houck? Kevin Cash had a simple answer.
“What happened I think was Tanner Houck,†Cash told reporters after the game, as seen on NESN’s postgame coverage. “He was really tough.â€
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on October 09, 2021, 11:34:07 AM
Interesting comments from Mets' Marcus Stroman about Houck,
Tanner Houck keeping Boston in it with that cross-firing, long-levered, wipeout slider and running fastball. He gets some of the wildest swings out of the zone on that slider against elite hitters. The changeup is great too. Going to be fun to watch for years!
8:43 PM · Oct 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Cash also had some Houck accolades, after 5 IP, 1 run, 2 hits.
"So, what happened to the strong Rays offense against Houck? Kevin Cash had a simple answer.
“What happened I think was Tanner Houck,†Cash told reporters after the game, as seen on NESN’s postgame coverage. “He was really tough.â€
FUNNY THING ........... THE SOX HAD HOUCK "DOWN ON THE FARM " FOR MOST OF THE SEASON , AS WAS DURAN !!!! iono iono iono rofl rofl :l
Yeah, they messed up that kid big time this Spring. He was slated for the rotation until he was the one they could option down and set aside for depth. I think him and Bazardo both injured themselves within about the same 2-week stretch.
How's this for 4 parts of a rotation: Eovaldi - Whitlock - Houck - Pivetta. Assuming Sale can come back to productive form.... I'm getting way ahead of myself. Hopefully a few reins will be loosened.
Quote from: markj on October 08, 2021, 10:02:11 PM
Finally!! Barnes can make any lead a nail biter.
There's your one win in TB, Fred.
Great comeback markj but I wonder if we wasted some of the runs we may need for Sunday and Monday at home. No, we can win tomorrow and we better so no to fall behind again. As for meatball Barnes this had better be his last visit to the mound this season.
Quote from: Bill-806 on October 09, 2021, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on October 09, 2021, 11:34:07 AM
Interesting comments from Mets' Marcus Stroman about Houck,
Tanner Houck keeping Boston in it with that cross-firing, long-levered, wipeout slider and running fastball. He gets some of the wildest swings out of the zone on that slider against elite hitters. The changeup is great too. Going to be fun to watch for years!
8:43 PM · Oct 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Cash also had some Houck accolades, after 5 IP, 1 run, 2 hits.
"So, what happened to the strong Rays offense against Houck? Kevin Cash had a simple answer.
“What happened I think was Tanner Houck,†Cash told reporters after the game, as seen on NESN’s postgame coverage. “He was really tough.â€
FUNNY THING ........... THE SOX HAD HOUCK "DOWN ON THE FARM " FOR MOST OF THE SEASON , AS WAS DURAN !!!! iono iono iono rofl rofl :l
Look Bill, Cora, no matter what anyone says, has his favorites and unfortunately he has shown he will play and pitch them over those he has less confidence in. He has screwed wtih Houck all season riding him like an elevator up and down and up and down some more. As for Duran, you can't impropve it you don't play and get a solid chance, which I hope he gets next season because he isn't going to get one now. Houck saved our asses yesterday and he needs to be a big part of our effort going forward.
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on October 09, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
Yeah, they messed up that kid big time this Spring. He was slated for the rotation until he was the one they could option down and set aside for depth. I think him and Bazardo both injured themselves within about the same 2-week stretch.
How's this for 4 parts of a rotation: Eovaldi - Whitlock - Houck - Pivetta. Assuming Sale can come back to productive form.... I'm getting way ahead of myself. Hopefully a few reins will be loosened.
Mongo, there really are some lesser lights on this team that are in Cora's bag of tricks. I just saw a stat overnight that really surprised,
Hansel Robles
Last 17 games
15.2 IP - 0.00 ERA - 0.70 WHIP
5 BB - 20 K
It is what it is!
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on October 10, 2021, 07:09:34 AM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on October 09, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
Yeah, they messed up that kid big time this Spring. He was slated for the rotation until he was the one they could option down and set aside for depth. I think him and Bazardo both injured themselves within about the same 2-week stretch.
How's this for 4 parts of a rotation: Eovaldi - Whitlock - Houck - Pivetta. Assuming Sale can come back to productive form.... I'm getting way ahead of myself. Hopefully a few reins will be loosened.
Mongo, there really are some lesser lights on this team that are in Cora's bag of tricks. I just saw a stat overnight that really surprised,
Hansel Robles
Last 17 games
15.2 IP - 0.00 ERA - 0.70 WHIP
5 BB - 20 K
It is what it is!
I posted about that a little ways up this page. I was very surprised to see this. It seemed like disaster for a month. 98mph one day, 94mph the next. One day, I think in Cleveland, he closed a game out and looked fantastic like I had not seen yet and it's been that way since. Him and Brasier hitting their stride going into the playoffs is a great thing.
I'm on the fence with Houck. A lot of young guys at least used to come up and pitch in relief before being full time starters. I know a lot of things have changed in MLB over the years, but I don't have a problem with Houck learning in different situations. That being said, I fully expect him to be a key part of the rotation next year.