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Title: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Bear on June 21, 2017, 12:15:39 AM
RED SOX V ROYALS

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 21, 2017, 2 PM AT KAUFFMAN STADIUM

TV:  NESN, FSKC, MLBN, (OUT-OF-MARKET ONLY)

BOSTON, ( 40-31)..............................................................................KANSAS, (34-36)

BOSTON:

DREW POMERANZ, LHP, 6-4, 4.19 ERA, 77K

Pomeranz is 2-2 with a 3.41 ERA in six road starts this season.  On Friday
night in Houston, the southpaw allowed just one run on four hits over 6 1/3
frames, but he took a no-decision in Boston's eventual victory.

KANSAS CITY:

IAN KENNEDY, RHP, 1-7, 5.03 ERA, 33k

Kennedy took a perfect game into the sixth inning his last time
out before allowing a homerun to Cliff Pennington.  He earned a
win, his first of the season, while giving up two hits and fanning four
batters.

AL East-leading Sox turn to Pomeranz in finale

Wilson Alexander

The Royals and Red Sox will play the final game in a three game series on Wednesday afternoon at Kauffman Stadium with both teams in the thick of their respective divisional races.

With their 8-3 win on Tuesday, the Red Sox hold a half-game lead over the Yankees in the American League East. Despite dropping the middle game of the set, the Royals are just 3 1/2 games back of the AL Central-leading Indians.

Kansas City right-hander Ian Kennedy (1-6, 5.03 ERA) heads to the mound looking to earn his second win of the season. Kennedy flirted with a perfect game against the Angels in his last start before giving up a home run in the sixth inning to end the chance of making history. That was the only run scored off him, making it the first time he's surrendered less than four runs since April 28.

On the mound for the Red Sox will be Drew Pomeranz. The left-hander neutralized a potent Houston batting order in his last start, limiting the Astros to four hits and one run, a home run, over 6 1/3 innings. Pomeranz (6-4, 4.19 ERA) has allowed one home run in each of his past three starts.

Kennedy earned his first win of the season in that start over the Angels, which was his sixth start since returning from the disabled list. Since then, he has yet to pitch more than six innings. Similarly, Pomeranz has pitched seven or more innings only once this season.

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• Lorenzo Cain, Eric Hosmer, Alex Gordon and Brandon Moss are the only Royals to face Pomeranz. The only one to get a hit was Cain, who doubled.

• Red Sox designated hitter and first baseman Hanley Ramirez has struggled against Kennedy in his career, batting .154 (4-for-26), with one RBI, no extra-base hits, three walks and three strikeouts.

• Each of Kennedy's three lowest single-game averages in exit velocity allowed have come this month. His 86.5-mph average in June is far better than his mark in either April (89.7 mph) or May (92.3 mph).

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170620237603234/al-east-leading-sox-turn-to-pomeranz-in-finale/?game_pk=491172
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Bear on June 21, 2017, 12:20:18 AM
Here are Wednesday’s complete lineups, with the first pitch scheduled for 2:15 p.m. ET.

RED SOX (40-31)

Mookie Betts, RF
Andrew Benintendi,
LF Xander Bogaerts, SS
Mitch Moreland, 1B
Chris Young, DH
Jackie Bradley Jr., CF
Josh Rutledge, 2B
Christian Vazquez, C
Deven Marrero, 3B

Drew Pomeranz, LHP (6-4, 4.19 ERA)

ROYALS (34-36)

Whit Merrifield, LF
Jorge Bonifacio,
RF Lorenzo Cain,
CF Eric Hosmer,
DH Salvador Perez, C
Mike Moustakas, 3B
Cheslor Cuthbert, 1B
Alcides Escobar, SS
Ramon Torres, 2B

Ian Kennedy, RHP (1-6, 5.03 ERA)

: http://nesn.com/2017/06/red-sox-vs-royals-lineup-andrew-benintendi-returns-for-series-finale/
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Bill-806 on June 21, 2017, 05:55:19 AM
  Lets get this one.... The 1st place RED SOX !! thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Bill-806 on June 21, 2017, 09:37:23 AM
Time to sit the  HAN/RAM man ....
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Bill-806 on June 21, 2017, 11:57:46 AM
Quote from: Bill-806 on June 21, 2017, 09:37:23 AM
Time to sit the  HAN/RAM man ....
  B I N G O  dat !! thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ipot on June 21, 2017, 02:02:28 PM
Ian Kennedy brings back a reality check thru 3 innings. Opposing starters will almost always shut us down.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: longgame on June 21, 2017, 02:10:58 PM
Warm weather is good for the Sox apparently.  Nice back to back by Beni and Bogy.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:12:52 PM
All of a sudden Pomeranz becoming a key member of the Sox staff.
6ip  4 hits 2er and 4K thru 6.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:24:16 PM
XB has 10 RBI in last 8 games along with 3 HR.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:26:54 PM
Pomeranz starts the 7 with 83 pitches gives up a weak single up the middle gets the pen up.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:31:29 PM
After another weakly hit ball for a hit, Farrell comes out with the hook to get Pomeranz and bring in Kelly.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
Very good game by Pomeranz.
6 1/3  innings   6H  2er  1bb and 5 Ks.That quiets the Pom Pom chants for a while
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:39:44 PM
After an 11 pitch at bat Kelly walks the batter to load the bases with 2 outs.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:40:59 PM
Kelly gets the 3rd out on a hard liner to Mookie.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:50:10 PM
Coming into today the Sox have the 2nd best pen  ERA behind the Tribe. 2.58  to 2.84
No other team is under 3.00
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:51:35 PM
Barnes on for bottom 8.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
Barnes look very wild .Walked the 1st 2 guys and Scott gets the call.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ojdidit on June 21, 2017, 03:57:14 PM
When you come in and walk the first guy that is a warning sign.  Barnes did this a few days ago and Sox survived a jam. Now he has walked a second batter.  Two in a row!  If and when Smith is 100% I would dump Barnes ASAP.  The guy has wonderful stuff, but he is a control nightmare.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Schloicka on June 21, 2017, 03:58:35 PM
Barnes can't make up his mind. He'll pitch good 1 day and stink the next. Hard to believe he couldn't get at least a few pitches in the k zone.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:00:39 PM
Scott walks the sacks full.No one up in the pen.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Schloicka on June 21, 2017, 04:02:27 PM
How can MLB pitchers not be able to throw strikes?
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:07:25 PM
Slammer!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:08:21 PM
Going to get interesting in awhile.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Schloicka on June 21, 2017, 04:08:45 PM
Guess the pen didn't come through this time. Even Kelly walked a guy to load them up before Mookie caught the line drive. Not a good bull pen day. Hopefully not the start of a bad streak by them.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:11:24 PM
Not into slamming the manager but where was the RHP to face Perez.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ojdidit on June 21, 2017, 04:11:51 PM
This is EXACTLY what they deserve.  EXACTLY! You walk three guys in a row this is what happens and should.  Last week they caught a break when they walked the bases loaded and escaped.  Also - push the blame on Farrell.  Kelly - no great control wizard - deserved to start another inning.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:20:05 PM
How often to you see that happen .Hardly never !!
It's always the 8th inning guy and Barnes has done a good job most of the time.If Kelly stays in and gives up a run he gets crucified.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Schloicka on June 21, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
Would of been a good spot to have your closer ready to go. Especially after the 1st two guys got on base. The 8th was more important than the 9th this time around.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ojdidit on June 21, 2017, 04:30:48 PM
If Stalin was a baseball manager Barnes would be shot.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
I guess his 12 holds don`t mean anything to some.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Schloicka on June 21, 2017, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
I guess his 12 holds don`t mean anything to some.

Holds are fine but how often does he have a clean inning? He always seems to be on a tight rope. Not unusual for him to get to a full count. I can look at Barnes and Scott and say they had a tough day. Let's move on. I'm not going to go spastic about it because it happens to every pitcher at some point. I'm sure their not happy about it either. Crap happens and it certainly did today. On to Friday.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on June 21, 2017, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on June 21, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
I guess his 12 holds don`t mean anything to some.



Holds are fine but how often does he have a clean inning? He always seems to be on a tight rope. Not unusual for him to get to a full count. I can look at Barnes and Scott and say they had a tough day. Let's move on. I'm not going to go spastic about it because it happens to every pitcher at some point. I'm sure their not happy about it either. Crap happens and it certainly did today. On to Friday.
Sounds good .
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on June 21, 2017, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 21, 2017, 03:57:14 PM
When you come in and walk the first guy that is a warning sign.  Barnes did this a few days ago and Sox survived a jam. Now he has walked a second batter.  Two in a row!  If and when Smith is 100% I would dump Barnes ASAP.  The guy has wonderful stuff, but he is a control nightmare.

Barnes is a meatball, pure and simple.  He cannot put two good outings together in a row and when he has one you better be ready to yank him the moment he gets in trouble in his second one.  He should never be in there with less than a three or four run lead.  Today his miserable attempt to hold a lead cost us a game we could have and should have won and once again we're running in place and coming home with a bummer of a road finale and Pinata Porcello ready to take the mound tomorrow with the Angels just waiting to feast on him.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on June 21, 2017, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 21, 2017, 04:11:51 PM
This is EXACTLY what they deserve.  EXACTLY! You walk three guys in a row this is what happens and should.  Last week they caught a break when they walked the bases loaded and escaped.  Also - push the blame on Farrell.  Kelly - no great control wizard - deserved to start another inning.

For some reason Farrell has a lot of confidence in the meatball which is why I have less and less confidence in Farrell.  Not letting Kelly pitch the eighth  was a mistake in my opinion.  And where was a righty to pitch to Perez?  Often you give Farrell the opportunity to win or lose one for us you know the usual result.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ipot on June 21, 2017, 05:59:18 PM
Well, that was a mess.  Considering the pen has been getting it done for a good stretch, odds came up for a stinker. 

But 5 measly hits from our offense again is not going to yield 4 runs every time.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Bill-806 on June 21, 2017, 06:19:49 PM
Another one that we will have to win in September !!  The mirrors must have melted in the  K C heat..... Another tough one to loose.... Our roster has a lot of holes, to say the least !!
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: markj on June 21, 2017, 10:46:09 PM
Well that stint in 1st place didn't last long.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: MongoLikeSox on June 22, 2017, 06:50:55 AM
OK, so I've seen Scott in his new role of NOT being a lefty specialist 4 times now. That means some of you have seen him more than that. The jury is out for me. Houston hit him hard from the right side and yesterday happened. I'm sure options were limited. He used Boyer a lot 2 nights ago, yes? Abad has not been consistent in pressure situations. Not in a positive way, anyhow.

I do not understand JF's love affair with Barnes. I hope that Joe Kelly's nerves are not why he isn't in the 8th instead of Barnes. To me, that needs to be reversed. I cannot believe for a moment that there is any other reason why you want Kelly facing the bottom of the order in the 7th and Barnes facing the top of the order in the 8th. Barnes does not overpower batters like Kelly. Never has at his best. JF call's Barnes an elite arm. Just goes to show you how his unjustified faith in certain players defies logic.

Then again, I didn't watch the game. Forgot it was on. Perhaps he used Kelly in a pressure situation to bail Pom Pom out? If so, he chose the best man for that key point in the game thing.

Well, can't go through a season without bull pen imploding a few times. At least we are not bitchin' about it 5 times a week this year. It's early, though.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 11:33:09 AM
This game still has me ticked and it is all Barnes. In the 6-5 win at Houston Barnes walked two and had to be replaced.  Scott then walks a batter and Sox are rescued by an out at home.  Scott comes in during the 4-2 loss in KC and walks a batter.  In the 6-4 loss Barnes walks his first two and Scott rplaces him and walks his only batter. Scott 3.6 BB/9 and Barnes 4.5 BB/9, but that is misleading.  They are walking batters and creating problems.  You do not start and inning by walking a batter. Even if they hit it you may have it caught. Both are falling behind on counts making .230 hitters into .330 hitters. Kelly has looked good but he has a 4.4 BB/9.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: Bill-806 on June 22, 2017, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 11:33:09 AM
This game still has me ticked and it is all Barnes. In the 6-5 win at Houston Barnes walked two and had to be replaced.  Scott then walks a batter and Sox are rescued by an out at home.  Scott comes in during the 4-2 loss in KC and walks a batter.  In the 6-4 loss Barnes walks his first two and Scott rplaces him and walks his only batter. Scott 3.6 BB/9 and Barnes 4.5 BB/9, but that is misleading.  They are walking batters and creating problems.  You do not start and inning by walking a batter. Even if they hit it you may have it caught. Both are falling behind on counts making .230 hitters into .330 hitters. Kelly has looked good but he has a 4.4 BB/9.
  As good as the bullpen has been, they have had more than their share of "Jekyll & hides"
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 02:29:18 PM
Guys walk batter but with Barnes, Kelly and Hembree they come in batches. This is a mini version of Henry Owens who will pitch three clean innings and then walk six in two innings.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ipot on June 22, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 02:29:18 PM
Guys walk batter but with Barnes, Kelly and Hembree they come in batches. This is a mini version of Henry Owens who will pitch three clean innings and then walk six in two innings.

Like some kind of bug going around....bizarre.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 22, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 02:29:18 PM
Guys walk batter but with Barnes, Kelly and Hembree they come in batches. This is a mini version of Henry Owens who will pitch three clean innings and then walk six in two innings.

Like some kind of bug going around....bizarre.
Walkbola?
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: markj on June 22, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
Yankees blew a 5-2 lead to the Angels, so Sox own a piece of 1st place again.
Title: Re: GAME #72, BOSTON RED SOX AT KANSAS CITY ROYALS
Post by: longgame on June 23, 2017, 07:23:04 AM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 22, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 22, 2017, 02:29:18 PM
Guys walk batter but with Barnes, Kelly and Hembree they come in batches. This is a mini version of Henry Owens who will pitch three clean innings and then walk six in two innings.

Like some kind of bug going around....bizarre.
Walkbola?

LOL,

I remember a few years back and Schilling was pitching against Toronto I think it was.  All of a sudden he comes out and walks the bases loaded, I think it was on 12 pitches - and he never walked anyone.  Still, walking the first batter as a reliever just kills me.