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Title: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 20, 2017, 01:42:09 AM
YANKEES V RED SOX

SUNDAY, AUGUST 20, 2017, 1:30 PM AT FENWAY PARK

TV:  NESN, TBS, YES

NEW YORK, (66-56).................................................................................BOSTON, (70-52)

NEW YORK:

SONNY GRAY, RHP, 7-7, 3.37 ERA, 111K

Gray picked up his fist Yankee win his last start, holding the Mets to two
runs over six-plus innings.  He has completed six innings in each of his three
starts for New York.  Gray is 0-1 with a 8.38 ERA in two career starts at
Fenway Park.

BOSTON:

RICK PORCELLO, RHP, 7-14, 4.59 ERA, 145K

The sinkerballer has bounced back nicely after a tough start to the season.
Porcello has gone at least six innings in seven of his last eight starts.  He is 0-3
with a 3.79 ERA against the Yankees this season.

Gray introduced to Yankees-Red Sox rivalry

Quinn Roberts

An eventful three-game series between the Yankees and Red Sox comes to a close on Sunday at Fenway Park, when New York right-hander Sonny Gray gets his first taste of the heated rivalry against Boston right-hander Rick Porcello.

The Red Sox hold a four-game lead over the Bronx Bombers in the American League East.

Gray, who was acquired by the Yankees at the non-waiver Trade Deadline, got his first win with the club on Tuesday against the Mets. The right-hander allowed two runs on five hits in six innings.

"It was nice. The crowd was great," Gray said after the start. "I was just trying to go out there and pitch my game and not let anything from the outside affect my mindset and what I really wanted to do out there."

Gray is 0-1 with a 8.38 ERA in two career starts at Fenway. However, he got a win against the Red Sox on May 18 in Oakland as a member of the A's, allowing three runs on four hits in six innings.

Meanwhile, Porcello got his third straight win on Tuesday against the Cardinals, allowing three runs on eight hits in seven innings.

Porcello's Achilles heel this season has been the home run ball. The right-hander has given up a career-high 28 long balls in 25 starts. His previous high was 25 home runs in 2015.

"It's all about location and the lower portion of the strike zone," Red Sox pitching coach Carl Willis said. "When he can establish the strike zone, that allows him to elevate the fastball and use his secondary pitches."

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• Porcello is 0-3 with a 3.79 ERA against the Yankees this season.

• Gray is 5-4 with a 1.88 ERA over his last nine starts, the Majors' second-lowest ERA since June 25.

• Porcello has allowed 186 hits this season, just seven fewer than his entire total from last season.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170819249471724/gray-introduced-to-yankees-red-sox-rivalry/?game_pk=491951
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 20, 2017, 01:45:49 AM
Sunday vs. NYY.

Holt 2B,
Betts RF,
Benintendi LF,
Ramirez DH,
Devers 3B,
Bogaerts SS,
Moreland 1B,
Leon C,
Bradley Jr. CF,

Porcello

I would have used Devers for cleanup.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 20, 2017, 06:30:36 AM
In the A L EAST,  3 runs will only win maybe 20% + -  of the time, not good...... OK, today is another day, "lets go out and win !!  O B T W,  To bad BOGEY never got the needed time to heal that wrist !! Look for NUNEZ at shortstop today !!!
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 20, 2017, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: Bear on August 20, 2017, 01:45:49 AM
Sunday vs. NYY.

Holt 2B,
Betts RF,
Benintendi LF,
Ramirez DH,
Devers 3B,
Bogaerts SS,
Moreland 1B,
Leon C,
Bradley Jr. CF,

Porcello

I would have used Devers for cleanup.
I guess that I was WRONG on Bogey getting today off ??   Can't remember the last time I was wrong !!!! thumb_u iono slap rofl
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on August 20, 2017, 10:48:01 AM
Quote from: Bear on August 20, 2017, 01:45:49 AM
Sunday vs. NYY.

Holt 2B,
Betts RF,
Benintendi LF,
Ramirez DH,
Devers 3B,
Bogaerts SS,
Moreland 1B,
Leon C,
Bradley Jr. CF,

Porcello

I would have used Devers for cleanup.

Why is Nunez and Vazquez, hot hitters, not playing today in a crucial game, and Bogaerts and Ramirez, two hitters in a deep freeze, in the lineup.  Has Farrell completely lost his efen mind?  Leon hasn't hit worth shit all season save for a few games, and we all know Bogaerts has been a total waste the past two months.  And what is worse, the choker is batting sixth again, a key RBI spot. My God, doesn't anyone see what inept leadership we're getting from that idiot in the dugout?  I am now very leery about what is going to happen today.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on August 20, 2017, 11:46:16 AM
One of the talking heads on mlb.com said on Thursday they thought the Sox had already salted away the AL East.  Sure hope Farrell hasn't done that kind of math.  The Yanks have the edge in pitching throughout the staff,  we need all the bats we can find to even up the odds.  Hot hitters getting a day off ain't gonna cut it.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on August 20, 2017, 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on August 20, 2017, 11:46:16 AM
One of the talking heads on mlb.com said on Thursday they thought the Sox had already salted away the AL East.  Sure hope Farrell hasn't done that kind of math.  The Yanks have the edge in pitching throughout the staff,  we need all the bats we can find to even up the odds.  Hot hitters getting a day off ain't gonna cut it.

Yup.  No way the Sox have locked up the East.  Lose today and it's a 3 game lead.  Then a 4 game set with CLE.  NYY could be in 1st by the 1st of September.  Sure, rattling of 10 Ws in 12 or so is a great thing, but dropping 4 of 5 changes things quickly.  We gotta get the bats going.  I'm praying Porcello doesn't start a HR Derby today.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ojdidit on August 20, 2017, 02:13:00 PM
Seems like that strike zone is shrinking today especially for Porcello.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on August 20, 2017, 02:35:00 PM
And there goes dinger #1 off Porcello. Sox bats doing everything they can to keep NYY in the game. Now, Porcello's on watch to give up nothing more.   :-X :-X
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ojdidit on August 20, 2017, 02:41:08 PM
Baseball really needs to test Gardner.  8)
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on August 20, 2017, 03:15:20 PM
Porcello got it done through 6. Now the pen that can't scare the NYY.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on August 20, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
So far the pen has looked good.Workman and Reed with a couple 123 innings. (Holt made a nice play in there too.) Now it's Kimbrel time with the Sox up 5-1 in the top of the 9th.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on August 20, 2017, 04:22:22 PM
Sox win and take 2/3 in the series. The bridge to Kimbrel worked great today. Good pitching all the way around for the Sox.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 20, 2017, 04:23:30 PM
Who would have thought the one game we lose would be Sale's? So still 5 up. Good deal.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 20, 2017, 04:33:12 PM
Just got in from a golf tournament with Grandaughter to see Kimbrel 2 Ks.Seems like Porcello looked like 2016.Farrell put in Holt and Sandy seemed to work out damn good looking at the stats.They did what they needed to at least take 2  .Lead gained 1 to 5.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on August 20, 2017, 04:36:47 PM
This was for me an impressive win.  The Sox didn't over power the Yankees but simply wore them out. 
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on August 20, 2017, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: markj on August 20, 2017, 04:23:30 PM
Who would have thought the one game we lose would be Sale's? So still 5 up. Good deal.

I was thinking the same thing!
Who would have thought that Porcello actually pitched
a better game.  ONLY allowed a solo shot by Gardner.

Sox are 19 games over .500 AND 5 games up on the Yankees.
Great to beat the Yankees in both series within the week!
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on August 20, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on August 20, 2017, 11:46:16 AM
One of the talking heads on mlb.com said on Thursday they thought the Sox had already salted away the AL East.  Sure hope Farrell hasn't done that kind of math.  The Yanks have the edge in pitching throughout the staff,  we need all the bats we can find to even up the odds.  Hot hitters getting a day off ain't gonna cut it.

For those talking heads on MLB the recourse should be OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!!  I mean how ridiculous can they be?  It would be just like Farrell to believe that crap.  You said it yourself; the Yanks have the edge in pitching right now, excapt MAYBE we have finally passed them in the relief department 7th, 8th and 9th inning spots if Friday and today are of any indication ( I mean when we finally stopped the bleeding on Friday and from that point on).  We need to hit consistently the rest of the season and having gained a game on that team in this three game series can't hurt at all considering who we're pitching tomorrow.  But maybe----------
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on August 20, 2017, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: markj on August 20, 2017, 04:23:30 PM
Who would have thought the one game we lose would be Sale's? So still 5 up. Good deal.

Isn't baseball a wonderful game mark?  Isn't it a weird game mark?  Isn't it a frustrating and irritating game mark?  I mean you give me one game in this series that I figured we would win for a near certainty it would have been the one we lost, and the fear was the Yanks would reverse what we did to them last week on their field to do it to us on ours.  But, lo and behold, perhaps Porcello is on his way to have another strong final six weeks as he did in 2015 and 2016.  Remember, he has pitched very well against the Yankees in his starts against them later in the year and no one can complain about our pitching today.  In fact, maybe even the addled brain Farrell picked the right combos to put out there today.  And five up on the New Yorkers is a helluva better than three.  This game was worth two in the standing and the team came back again as they have a lot this month.  A very good day if you ask me.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 20, 2017, 04:48:47 PM
E rod takes on the Tribe tomorrow we need him to start helping out.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 20, 2017, 05:03:27 PM
  As  DAD would say, "SON, that  J F  makes it look easy"  !!  Go SOX, on to FRANCONA country.... thumb_u rofl
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on August 20, 2017, 05:29:58 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on August 20, 2017, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: markj on August 20, 2017, 04:23:30 PM
Who would have thought the one game we lose would be Sale's? So still 5 up. Good deal.

Isn't baseball a wonderful game mark?  Isn't it a weird game mark?  Isn't it a frustrating and irritating game mark?  I mean you give me one game in this series that I figured we would win for a near certainty it would have been the one we lost, and the fear was the Yanks would reverse what we did to them last week on their field to do it to us on ours.  But, lo and behold, perhaps Porcello is on his way to have another strong final six weeks as he did in 2015 and 2016.  Remember, he has pitched very well against the Yankees in his starts against them later in the year and no one can complain about our pitching today.  In fact, maybe even the addled brain Farrell picked the right combos to put out there today.  And five up on the New Yorkers is a helluva better than three.  This game was worth two in the standing and the team came back again as they have a lot this month.  A very good day if you ask me.

And Porce with a 4.59 era holds 'em to a run on three hits.  Impressive considering the  bearing of this one game.  (At least the importance our fans put on this game.)
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 20, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
Fred, with the Red Sox, I live one game at a time.
I have yet to learn to relax until the season is over.
Our pitching is fair, offense, oh boy, I don't even want
to go there.
And Cleveland next week...not an easy team to beat. iono
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on August 20, 2017, 05:55:01 PM
Well two good wins and a terribly played loss.  Nice to see a well played game with enough scoring and excellent pitching.  Five game lead at this point is huge.  At this time of year I start looking at how many the Sox may reasonably win.  With 39 remaining and 71 wins, the Sox can go 22-17 and finish with 93 wins. They'd have to keep winning but it's not an unreasonable pace at all.  The Yankees would have to go 27-12, highly unlikely.  So we're in a highly likely range right now.  If we can expand that lead by the time we leave NY in two weeks we've got them.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on August 21, 2017, 01:06:11 AM
Quote from: Bear on August 20, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
Fred, with the Red Sox, I live one game at a time.
I have yet to learn to relax until the season is over.
Our pitching is fair, offense, oh boy, I don't even want
to go there.
And Cleveland next week...not an easy team to beat. iono

That's 2 of us, bear.  I'm savoring this one, but tomorrow it's back to nail biting again.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on August 21, 2017, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: ipot on August 21, 2017, 01:06:11 AM
Quote from: Bear on August 20, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
Fred, with the Red Sox, I live one game at a time.
I have yet to learn to relax until the season is over.
Our pitching is fair, offense, oh boy, I don't even want
to go there.
And Cleveland next week...not an easy team to beat. iono

That's 2 of us, bear.  I'm savoring this one, but tomorrow it's back to nail biting again.

Make that three of us and maybe more if others weigh in IPOT.  That is a good picture of the travails that always seem to engulf Red Sox fans.  We are always nervous.  I wonder if I had become a Sox fan before 2000 what I would be like today with another 20 or 30 years of suffering with each game.  Probably institutionalized or dead.
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on August 21, 2017, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on August 21, 2017, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: ipot on August 21, 2017, 01:06:11 AM
Quote from: Bear on August 20, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
Fred, with the Red Sox, I live one game at a time.
I have yet to learn to relax until the season is over.
Our pitching is fair, offense, oh boy, I don't even want
to go there.
And Cleveland next week...not an easy team to beat. iono

That's 2 of us, bear.  I'm savoring this one, but tomorrow it's back to nail biting again.

Make that three of us and maybe more if others weigh in IPOT.  That is a good picture of the travails that always seem to engulf Red Sox fans.  We are always nervous.  I wonder if I had become a Sox fan before 2000 what I would be like today with another 20 or 30 years of suffering with each game.  Probably institutionalized or dead.

There is a well known expression among life long long suffering red Sox fans, Fred.  "First they killed my grandfather, then my father, and now they are coming for me."
Title: Re: GAME #123, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 21, 2017, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on August 21, 2017, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on August 21, 2017, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: ipot on August 21, 2017, 01:06:11 AM
Quote from: Bear on August 20, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
Fred, with the Red Sox, I live one game at a time.
I have yet to learn to relax until the season is over.
Our pitching is fair, offense, oh boy, I don't even want
to go there.
And Cleveland next week...not an easy team to beat. iono

That's 2 of us, bear.  I'm savoring this one, but tomorrow it's back to nail biting again.

Make that three of us and maybe more if others weigh in IPOT.  That is a good picture of the travails that always seem to engulf Red Sox fans.  We are always nervous.  I wonder if I had become a Sox fan before 2000 what I would be like today with another 20 or 30 years of suffering with each game.  Probably institutionalized or dead.

There is a well known expression among life long long suffering red Sox fans, Fred.  "First they killed my grandfather, then my father, and now they are coming for me."

Yeah, Fred and some younger fans have no idea whatsoever it was like being a suffering Sox fan from the 60s up to 2004.
With Yawkey and 25 players and 25 cabs.