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Title: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 14, 2017, 08:07:46 AM
INDIANS V RED SOX

MONDAY, AUGUST 14, 2017, 6 PM AT FENWAY PARK

TV:  NESN, SPORTS TIME OHIO

CLEVELAND, (63-52)...............................................................................BOSTON, (67-50)

CLEVELAND:

TREVOR BAUER, RHP, 10-8, 4.79 ERA, 133K

Bauer has been excellent in his last three starts, with three straight outings
of seven-plus innings with only one run in each.  That equals his career-best
streak of such performances.

BOSTON:

DOUG FISTER, LHP, 2-5, 5.03 ERA, 33K

The sinkerballer hopes to replicate the success he had two weeks ago
against the Indians when he held them to five hits and two runs over 7 2/3
innings.  Lifetime against the Tribe, Fister is 6-4 with a 3.07 ERA in 17
starts.

Division leaders Tribe, Red Sox set for makeup

Connor Mount

Rained out of their series finale with the Red Sox on Aug. 2, the Indians add Boston to what had already been a 10-game road trip. The two teams, who as of now would be American League Division Series competitors, are set for a makeup game on Monday at Fenway Park.

It will be the first meeting between the teams since they staged perhaps the Game of the Year to date in MLB on Aug. 1, an epic 12-10 win by the Red Sox that was completed with a three-run, walk-off homer by Christian Vazquez and included an amazing catch over the bullpen wall by Indians center fielder Austin Jackson

Instead of an off-day in Minneapolis, the Indians will be back in Boston for a brief engagement. The Red Sox lose what would have been a day off at home after a three-game series at Yankee Stadium. It is the start of a six-game homestand for Boston, which includes two games against the Cardinals and a three-game series against Yankees.

"I'd rather have the day off in Minnesota, just because Boston's got a really good team and they're playing well," said Indians manager Terry Francona. "It's OK. In the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal."

Plus, former Red Sox skipper Francona has a special perk waiting for him when he visits Boston.

"I get to see the grandkids, so I'm happy," he said.

The Indians come to Boston leading the AL Central by 4 1/2 games. The Red Sox entered Sunday night's game against the Yankees with that same lead in the AL East.

The Red Sox recently notched an eight-game winning streak, which began with two wins over the Indians. They averaged 6.25 runs per game over the stretch. Doug Fister (2-5, 5.03 ERA) will look for a similar outcome to the win he earned over Cleveland on July 31, his first victory of the season. He pitched a season-high 7 2/3 innings while holding the Indians to two runs on five hits.

Fister has done a nice job filling in for David Price, who is back on the disabled list with a left elbow injury.

"Yeah, I mean that's been extremely helpful and certainly we've missed David Price in the rotation, that goes without saying," said Red Sox manager John Farrell. "But to have Doug to step in with the veteran presence he has, to his credit, some of the minor adjustments that he's made to solidify his pitch execution, that's been the case the last four appearances for him. He's been a huge plus to have that kind of veteran guy to plug in when needed."

Trevor Bauer (10-8, 4.79 ERA) will take the mound opposite Fister, working on a streak of three straight games of seven or more innings with one run allowed in each. He's struck out 22 batters over 22 innings in those starts.

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• Bauer is striking out a career-high 9.95 batters per nine innings, 14th best in the Majors (and a sliver ahead of teammate Carlos Carrasco, at 9.87).

• Fister has fared well against the Indians in his career, with a 3.07 ERA over 17 starts. His 1.03 WHIP against the Tribe is his lowest vs. any AL opponent.

• The Indians and Red Sox entered Sunday leading the AL in team ERA. The Red Sox have not led their league in ERA since 2007.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170813245759416/division-leaders-tribe-red-sox-set-for-makeup/?game_pk=491698
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 14, 2017, 09:47:11 AM
Here is the complete Red Sox lineup.

Eduardo Nunez, DH

Andrew Benintendi, LF

Mookie Betts, RF

Mitch Moreland, 1B

Rafael Devers, 3B

Xander Bogaerts, SS

Brock Holt, 2B

Christian Vazquez, C

Jackie Bradley Jr., CF

Doug Fister, RHP
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 14, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
  Baseball at its best ..... Nothing will be easy from here on out !!!   OH, this is where April, May, & June comes back to haunt us !!!!  There was/is at least 15 DEFEATS that should of /could of/would of been W's instead of L's  !!! thumb_d rofl
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 14, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
I try not looking back but rather ahead. ;D
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 02:29:16 PM
Quote from: Bear on August 14, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
I try not looking back but rather ahead. ;D

Much safer driving that way.  ;) thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 14, 2017, 02:37:26 PM
Quote from: Bear on August 14, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
I try not looking back but rather ahead. ;D
  We should not be afraid of the past, that is the only way we can handle the future !!!!  Put another way,  Can't determine where we are going if we continued with the same direction !!! rofl
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 14, 2017, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Bear on August 14, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
I try not looking back but rather ahead. ;D

Exactly !!! Whats done is done and for the most part, it has been pretty good. JF imo has been a bit better than in 2016 but still, makes some very strange decisions. I guess strange decisions are in his DNA  and it's hard to change.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 14, 2017, 03:47:28 PM
Christopher Smith‏Verified account @SmittyOnMLB 

The Red Sox have gone back and looked at "quite a bit of video" from Reed's time with the Mets and White Sox.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:21:09 PM
First pitch goes right to the OF for a base hit. I like it. Now let's see if they can capitalize.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:32:21 PM
Ugh. Silliness already. Mookie K's on a pitch in the next zip code and Nunez gets tossed out by a mile trying to steal.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:35:53 PM
Fister in a bases-loaded, 1-out jam already.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
Fister is back to his losing ways. Already down 3 runs and the inning isn't nearly over.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 14, 2017, 05:43:11 PM
Ah, so, is JF getting any reliever ready? sigh
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:43:23 PM
JF has Hembree up already. Not a good sign. I think Fister's days may be numbered.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on August 14, 2017, 05:44:49 PM
Out of the inning...I suppose he's going back in?
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:45:22 PM
Out of it. Could have been much worse, but 3 runs is bad enough.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ojdidit on August 14, 2017, 05:46:10 PM
This is starting to smell like the Fister of 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: Bear on August 14, 2017, 05:44:49 PM
Out of the inning...I suppose he's going back in?


Yeah, I imagine they'll send him out again to see if he's settled down. Very short leash, though.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:49:55 PM
Raffy with another dinger. I like this kid.  thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ojdidit on August 14, 2017, 06:03:23 PM
Bauer is very hittable. See if Sox can get some runs since they may need it tonight.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 06:09:58 PM
Beni goes deep. It's the Beni and Raffy Show again. Shame no one is on base when they hit these.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 06:12:44 PM
Bauer is making Mookie and Moreland look like fools.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 06:21:48 PM
Raffy goes deep again. The kid's a machine.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 14, 2017, 06:22:17 PM
Quote from: markj on August 14, 2017, 06:09:58 PM
Beni goes deep. It's the Beni and Raffy Show again. Shame no one is on base when they hit these.
  As  DAD would say,  "SON, I like those KIDS" !! thumb_u rofl
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ojdidit on August 14, 2017, 06:39:45 PM
Good move by JF. Fister had nothing.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on August 14, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
Should of signed Edwin Encarnacion.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 14, 2017, 08:37:20 PM
Fister obviously stunk, but so did the offense except for Raffy and Beni. Hopefully the deadbats are shortlived this time.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on August 14, 2017, 09:21:29 PM
Fister + no offense = L
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on August 15, 2017, 01:28:08 AM
Quote from: markj on August 14, 2017, 08:37:20 PM
Fister obviously stunk, but so did the offense except for Raffy and Beni. Hopefully the deadbats are shortlived this time.

This seems to be the pattern with this offense - only 2 guys hitting in any given game... :P
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on August 15, 2017, 06:19:56 AM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on August 14, 2017, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Bear on August 14, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
I try not looking back but rather ahead. ;D

Exactly !!! Whats done is done and for the most part, it has been pretty good. JF imo has been a bit better than in 2016 but still, makes some very strange decisions. I guess strange decisions are in his DNA  and it's hard to change.
PLEASE SPARE ME ........ Squandering those games in April, May & June with the idea that there was/is still plenty of games ahead is fools gold !!! Now, we find the stretch run will require HELP from a lot of teams & the moon , stars will need to align !!!  thumb_u iono rofl
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on August 15, 2017, 07:13:22 AM
Quote from: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:32:21 PM
Ugh. Silliness already. Mookie K's on a pitch in the next zip code and Nunez gets tossed out by a mile trying to steal.
I was not watching yet, but sounds like a blown hit and run.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on August 15, 2017, 07:23:05 AM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on August 15, 2017, 07:13:22 AM
Quote from: markj on August 14, 2017, 05:32:21 PM
Ugh. Silliness already. Mookie K's on a pitch in the next zip code and Nunez gets tossed out by a mile trying to steal.
I was not watching yet, but sounds like a blown hit and run.

That could be.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: MongoLikeSox on August 15, 2017, 07:26:35 AM
Silver lining time.

I don't know if they talked about Devers' error on TV or not as I was watching from from my noisey kitchen. There was something impressive about his recovery. He reached down for the ball after getting to it and did zero pumping or anything of that nature. About the only thing he did was a somewhat controlled strong armed throw. No additional wasted time. It was closer than it should have been.

How many times have we seen players compound the error by doing some extra footwork, wind-up, pumping up motion, ball in glove tap. Not even some wild pick up and throw combination.

A somewhat delayed silver lining for Brock Holt. I ran on and on last year about how I thought the concussions / head injury thing was affecting him and his vision. Difficulties with pop-ups, fly-balls, excessive eye focusing and things like that. He looks much more under control than he did when he came back from it last season. I'm very happy for him. I hope it continues.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on August 15, 2017, 08:11:45 AM
After an exciting win, a bad loss.  Two things stick out to me -  can only guys 23 and younger hit, and the offense has gone to sleep again.  As for the young guys, maybe the older guys can learn something from them?  Hanley is just up there hacking regularly.  I think he needs glasses or something.  JBJ will never be a good hitter.  Bogey can hit but for some reason won't this year.  Mookie thinks he needs to drive in 3 runs everytime he's at the plate except when he has the actual opportunity to drive in 3 runs.  The offense is now in hit or miss mode.  If they score a ton they can win, but in the past week they scored 8 and 10 runs, but the rest of them time it was less than 4. 
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 15, 2017, 09:14:12 AM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on August 15, 2017, 07:26:35 AM
Silver lining time.

I don't know if they talked about Devers' error on TV or not as I was watching from from my noisey kitchen. There was something impressive about his recovery. He reached down for the ball after getting to it and did zero pumping or anything of that nature. About the only thing he did was a somewhat controlled strong armed throw. No additional wasted time. It was closer than it should have been.

How many times have we seen players compound the error by doing some extra footwork, wind-up, pumping up motion, ball in glove tap. Not even some wild pick up and throw combination.

A somewhat delayed silver lining for Brock Holt. I ran on and on last year about how I thought the concussions / head injury thing was affecting him and his vision. Difficulties with pop-ups, fly-balls, excessive eye focusing and things like that. He looks much more under control than he did when he came back from it last season. I'm very happy for him. I hope it continues.

Since his return in 23 games, he has been a complete struggle at the plate.Needs to do better than his .213 BA and 1 rbi since being brought up.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on August 15, 2017, 03:30:19 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on August 15, 2017, 06:19:56 AM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on August 14, 2017, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Bear on August 14, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
I try not looking back but rather ahead. ;D

Exactly !!! Whats done is done and for the most part, it has been pretty good. JF imo has been a bit better than in 2016 but still, makes some very strange decisions. I guess strange decisions are in his DNA  and it's hard to change.
PLEASE SPARE ME ........ Squandering those games in April, May & June with the idea that there was/is still plenty of games ahead is fools gold !!! Now, we find the stretch run will require HELP from a lot of teams & the moon , stars will need to align !!!  thumb_u iono rofl

Just chiming in here.  After JF licked that horrible disease, he mentioned in the offseason that one life lesson/coaching lesson he learned was to not be afraid to take risks on decisions.  Be more impulsive.  He insinuated he wanted to be more like Maddon.  Sometimes this stuff works, sometimes it doesn't.  But a huge factor in this is the roster you have.  And a manager has to know if his players can answer that kind of bell.  Madden has good intuition when coaching like that...hence, getting a lot out of his teams.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 15, 2017, 03:50:39 PM
Pete Abraham‏Verified account @PeteAbe  4m4 minutes ago

Farrell said Pedroia is improving. But clear this DL stint will be more than 10 days.




Thankfully his contract is team friendly. Sadly we will continue to see this from the guy that gives 110 % while on the field.
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on August 15, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
Jason Mastrodonato‏Verified account @JMastrodonato  2m2 minutes ago

Since July 4, Red Sox have four guys in the bottom 20 of BA:

136: Betts, .222
144: JBJ, .214
154: Moreland, .185
155: Bogaerts, .175

/156
Title: Re: GAME #118, CLEVELAND INDIANS AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on August 15, 2017, 05:02:19 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on August 15, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
Jason Mastrodonato‏Verified account @JMastrodonato  2m2 minutes ago

Since July 4, Red Sox have four guys in the bottom 20 of BA:

136: Betts, .222
144: JBJ, .214
154: Moreland, .185
155: Bogaerts, .175

/156

Hanley had a good July but is stinking up August so far hitting .214 with virtually no power. Hard to win when you got so many guys not hitting.