INDIANS V RED SOX
MONDAY, JULY 31, 2017, 7 PM AT FENWAY PARK
TV: NESN, ESPN, SPORTS OHIO
CLEVELAND, (57-46)....................................................................................BOSTON, (57-49)
CLEVELAND:
MIKE CLEVINGER, RHP, 5-3, 3.20 ERA, 78K
Clevinger endured a rough outing Tuesday, giving up six runs (five earned) in
4 1/3 innings against the Angels. Even with that outing, the righty has a 2.41 ERA
in his last seven starts.
BOSTON:
DOUG FISTER, RHP, 0-5, 7.46 ERA, 21K
The righty will be inserted back into the rotation due to David Price landing on
the disabled list. In his last start before being moved into the bullpen officially, Fister
gave up six runs and four walks in 4 1/3 innings vs the Blue Jays on July 20.
Clevinger, Fister set to square off at Fenway
Fabian Ardaya
There might not be a hotter team in the American League than the Indians.
The defending AL champs will look to maintain their hot play -- they had a nine-game winning streak before Sunday's walk-off loss to the White Sox -- while continuing their road trip in Boston against Doug Fister (0-5, 7.46 ERA) at Fenway Park.
Cleveland will send right-hander Mike Clevinger (5-3, 3.20 ERA) to the mound in the first of a three-game set on Monday. The 26-year-old right-hander is coming off his worst start in almost two months, allowing more than two runs in an outing for the first time since June 6, when he allowed six runs (five earned) over 4 1/3 innings against the Angels on July 25.
The poor outing snapped a streak of four consecutive quality starts for Clevinger, who hasn't allowed an earned run in four of his 13 starts.
Fister has struggled since coming to Boston just over a month ago, including a move to the bullpen for his last two outings. The right-hander came to the Red Sox after exercising his out option with the Angels, but hasn't allowed fewer than three runs in any of his four starts. This will be his first start since July 20, when he allowed six runs over 4 1/3 innings in a loss against the Blue Jays.
THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME
• Clevinger has never faced the Red Sox, and he'll be making just his third start against an AL East foe. Meanwhile, Fister has started against the Indians 16 times in his career; he's 5-4 with a 3.13 ERA.
• This is a matchup of two of the premier pitching staffs in the American League. The Indians and Red Sox entered the week ranking first and second in the AL with ERAs of 3.69 and 3.71, respectively. The Indians also entered with the best bullpen in baseball with a 2.73 ERA, while the Red Sox were third at 2.91.
• Indians shortstop Francisco Lindor has been on a tear since the All-Star break. He has a 10-game hitting streak, and had reached safely in 15 of the first 16 games after the break, including a .369 average.
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170730245338220/clevinger-fister-set-to-square-off-at-fenway/?game_pk=491673
Tonight vs. CLE:
Betts RF,
Holt LF,
Nuñez 2B,
Ramirez DH,
Bradley Jr. CF,
Devers 3B,
Bogaerts SS,
Moreland 1B,
Vazquez C,
Fister.
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With a tad more than a hour left tons of rumors flying that the Sox are DONE FOR THE DAY.
Time will tell if the talking heads are right.
They're going nowhere with this lineup. Just a mediocre team in a heap of pseudo-WCs.
Tonight: CLE 7 BOS 2.
Quote from: ipot on July 31, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
They're going nowhere with this lineup. Just a mediocre team in a heap of pseudo-WCs.
Tonight: CLE 7 BOS 2.
I like tonights lineup !!!
Quote from: ipot on July 31, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
They're going nowhere with this lineup. Just a mediocre team in a heap of pseudo-WCs.
Tonight: CLE 7 BOS 2.
I have it 8-2. He benches Benintendi, who, admittedly, is in a funk, but he keeps starting Bogaerts and Moreland who have been in a funk for close to two months? How the hell can you expect to win with a lineup like this and Fister, who should be out stealing hub caps instead of pitching for our team or any team? You have it 7-2; I have it 8-2 , and we don't have the 8.
My bet, 15=-3
Lordy, Lord, he gets out of the 1st and didn't give up any runs...
What's he been up to???? rofl
Quote from: Bear on July 31, 2017, 05:53:47 PM
My bet, 15=-3
I can`t see us scoring 15 runs. But hey who knows.
2 innings no runs by Fister .Who said this guy is terrible?
And just like that Fisty has a three run margin.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 31, 2017, 06:59:46 PM
And just like that Fisty has a three run margin.
And of course Bogaerts come to bat with a runner in scoring position and two outs and he fails for the upteenth time to get a clutch hit. He is like clockwork, the filthy choker. Hope Fister has one of his rare good games. So far so good, but we could use about three or four more runs.
Fister looks damn good .Just may be a keeper.The lineup that JF wrote up looks ok so far.
The Bogaerts crap is getting very annoying.
Fister thru 4 and still looking like a keeper.
Nice to see Mookie came to play tonight.
5 good innings from Fister so far. Good defense behind him also.
Fister so good so far fans are speechless.
It may take Devers 3-5 to learn the defense part but he sure knows how to hit.
Xman saves Fisters bad throw to 2nd to get the force there. Averted a possible big inning. Fister doing well through 6.
Fister continues to dazzle.
Fister only 86 pitches should come out for the 7th.
I have fallen into an alternate universe where Doug Fister is really Billy Chappel. How can I get home? Any time travelers or parallel shifters on this board?
Quote from: ojdidit on July 31, 2017, 08:05:06 PM
I have fallen into an alternate universe where Doug Fister is really Billy Chappel. How can I get home? Any time travelers or parallel shifters on this board?
Seriously. Just got back from a ride and expected the Sox to be down 5-0, not winning. Who is the guy in the Fister costume?
7 good innings. Around 100 pitches. Give him 1 more inning?
I love the spot on commentary tonight. Half an inning about tomorrow's pitcher and not a damned thing about what is different about Fister as compared to his previous starts with Boston. Maybe some more boxing references.
I am usually quite patient, but these two are driving me nuts tonight. No, not patient like being able to listen to ESPN Sunday light Baseball trio, but patient enough.
On fister, I see his curve ball finishing tonight and the spinners getting hit into mitts. Nice combo.
Fister has been outstanding. He looked like the Doug Fister of old.
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 31, 2017, 08:14:02 PM
I love the spot on commentary tonight. Half an inning about tomorrow's pitcher and not a damned thing about what is different about Fister as compared to his previous starts with Boston. Maybe some more boxing references.
I am usually quite patient, but these two are driving me nuts tonight. No, not patient like being able to listen to ESPN Sunday light Baseball trio, but patient enough.
On fister, I see his curve ball finishing tonight and the spinners getting hit into mitts. Nice combo.
Gomes babbling is extremely irritating.
Helluva job by Farrell giving Sale the extra day and pitching this guy Fister.
It's fun watching Devers hit.
Xman actually has swung a decent bat tonight. Hit it hard 3 times and finally got a hit out of it. Good to see.
I agree. He has made solid contact. He could have easily had second hit. Last night I began to see improvement in Bogaerts swing. Tonight I noticed that he kept both hands on the bat through his swing longer. I think the wrist soreness has eased up considerably.
Most of us are in agreement towards Bogaerts.The talent is there no question about that.
Fister pitched 7.2 good innings. Gave up a 2 out hr but I'll take that performance every time.
Quote from: Schloicka on July 31, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
Fister pitched 7.2 good innings. Gave up a 2 out hr but I'll take that performance every time.
Exactly!! He looked so comfortable on the mound .For tonight he was very good .Sometimes a game like this could turn things around.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 31, 2017, 08:16:25 PM
Helluva job by Farrell giving Sale the extra day and pitching this guy Fister.
The espn talking heads said Fister has always had a good record against Cleve. Did Farrell know about that?
Quote from: elktonnick on July 31, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
I agree. He has made solid contact. He could have easily had second hit. Last night I began to see improvement in Bogaerts swing. Tonight I noticed that he kept both hands on the bat through his swing longer. I think the wrist soreness has eased up considerably.
Exactly and he's keeping the bat up, he was getting grooved into a lazy golf swing for a while. Let's hope that continues.
Nice to see Betts with some timely hitting.
Devers puts this entire lineup to shame. This looks easy for this kid.
I am sure he did. Nevertheless Foster looked impressive. His curve ball was lethal.
Quote from: Schloicka on July 31, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
Fister pitched 7.2 good innings. Gave up a 2 out hr but I'll take that performance every time.
Simply amazing. He was getting some good calls on the left side of the plate, but still, the main thing was keeping it down and getting the ground balls. Even had a couple of swing and miss K's with that curve ball.
Someone mentioned it before, but yes, Gomes is just not cut out for this. Timlin wasn't either. There isn't anyone else they can get? I'm guessing Eck is back maybe tomorrow after being in Cooperstown tomorrow, but they had expected Remy to be back by now. Geez, the broadcaster injury situation is complicated!
A blind squirrel found a nut tonight at Fenway Park.
No one mentioned but Brock Holt looked to be back to his old self after battling vertigo. Outstanding assist and on base 3 times.
I agree with Holt .Keep him in and Beni out to try to clear his head .
Quote from: elktonnick on July 31, 2017, 08:52:21 PM
No one mentioned but Brock Holt looked to be back to his old self after battling vertigo. Outstanding assist and on base 3 times.
Be between Holt and Beni to see who stays in the lineup. When Pedroia gets back it will be interesting to see who plays where. Could see Nunez go to LF if Xman stays in the lineup or some combination of Hanley at 1st and Nunez at DH.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 31, 2017, 07:17:36 PM
The Bogaerts crap is getting very annoying.
Well sometimes Rob the truth hurts----and it is the truth. He is the guy I want up least when I want a clutch hit in a tough situation and if you haven't realized it by or simply don't want to that is your problem, but, again it is the truth. OTOH, Fister surprised everybody tonight and gave us seven terrific inning and pitched into the eighth and even Workman did a good job finishing up. They aren't Sonny Gray but tonight they were just as good as he would have been. Devers may just be who we need. What about Pedroia? When are we getting him back? We do need him too.
Quote from: Schloicka on July 31, 2017, 07:58:03 PM
Xman saves Fisters bad throw to 2nd to get the force there. Averted a possible big inning. Fister doing well through 6.
Yes Schloik, I should have mentioned that. It was a very good play. Nice job on that one Xander. Now will you start hitting again?
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 31, 2017, 08:14:02 PM
I love the spot on commentary tonight. Half an inning about tomorrow's pitcher and not a damned thing about what is different about Fister as compared to his previous starts with Boston. Maybe some more boxing references.
I am usually quite patient, but these two are driving me nuts tonight. No, not patient like being able to listen to ESPN Sunday light Baseball trio, but patient enough.
On fister, I see his curve ball finishing tonight and the spinners getting hit into mitts. Nice combo.
Well they aren't as irritating when the Red Sox are winning.
I've not figured out what makes Bett's swing not work, but after watching tonight, it looks like his swing shrunk overnight. Triceps in tight type of feeling instead of big swings. It's kind of surprising how much quicker and 'torquier' that feels.
To me, it is great to see Vasquez going the other way again this weekend. He got that home run a month ago and got all big eyed with the rest of the team.
XB made two good plays an got lucky with that tag on the throw by Holt. Was it me, or did he look calmer in the box tonight?
I was wrong about Fister, very happy that I was.
Pedey may be headed to the DL unless things change.
Quote from: Bear on July 31, 2017, 10:25:35 PM
I was wrong about Fister, very happy that I was.
Pedey may be headed to the DL unless things change.
What exactly is bothering Pedroia this time around? Is it the knee that he hurt when that Oriole ran into him? We really need him back as soon as possible.
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 31, 2017, 09:27:31 PM
I've not figured out what makes Bett's swing not work, but after watching tonight, it looks like his swing shrunk overnight. Triceps in tight type of feeling instead of big swings. It's kind of surprising how much quicker and 'torquier' that feels.
To me, it is great to see Vasquez going the other way again this weekend. He got that home run a month ago and got all big eyed with the rest of the team.
XB made two good plays an got lucky with that tag on the throw by Holt. Was it me, or did he look calmer in the box tonight?
The longer the swing, the more that can go wrong with it. A shorter, more compact swing is always better for more force with less effort. One more thing. Today we see many players lifting the ball and uppercutting. I have never liked that unless the guy had big time power. Most of our guys need to hit down on the high pitches for more line drive alley shots. You look at two of the greatest hitters in baseball history-----Lou Gehrig and Henry Aaron and they actually hit down on the ball from belt high up---and the fact is you can hit with power that way too. Too many our guys are trying to be Chris Bryant and Mike Trout and we don't have any guys like that on our team.
Quote from: ojdidit on July 31, 2017, 08:05:06 PM
I have fallen into an alternate universe where Doug Fister is really Billy Chappel. How can I get home? Any time travelers or parallel shifters on this board?
;D Things can go upside down for a day. Hey, Bucky Flippin' Dent, right?
As I said when he got here, I like Fister & his sinkerball as he look like the pitcher that we thought he was.... That said, I also liked that lineup last night...... Now is the time to drop Mookie back to the 3 slot and Nunez leading off ...... That DEVERS can flat out swing a bat !! thumb_u rofl
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on July 31, 2017, 09:20:49 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 31, 2017, 07:17:36 PM
The Bogaerts crap is getting very annoying.
Well sometimes Rob the truth hurts----and it is the truth. He is the guy I want up least when I want a clutch hit in a tough situation and if you haven't realized it by or simply don't want to that is your problem, but, again it is the truth. OTOH, Fister surprised everybody tonight and gave us seven terrific inning and pitched into the eighth and even Workman did a good job finishing up. They aren't Sonny Gray but tonight they were just as good as he would have been. Devers may just be who we need. What about Pedroia? When are we getting him back? We do need him too.
Truth does hurt but every damn day post after post. Everyone here gets your point.Try to leave it alone for a while you just may ENJOY your DAY a bit better.Same for FARRELL. No one really likes what he does with the lineup but moving up Devers and Nunez batting 3rd worked yesterday.In sports the wins are great and the losses suck but there will always another day to root for the Sox.
Devers is a stud with the BAT but there will be a LOT OF ERRORS also coming for the next 3-5 years .It took Boggs about the same amount of time to get his body to adjust to what is needed to be a good defensive player.So be ready for the bad D the same as the great bat at from him.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on August 01, 2017, 07:12:30 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on July 31, 2017, 09:20:49 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 31, 2017, 07:17:36 PM
The Bogaerts crap is getting very annoying.
Well sometimes Rob the truth hurts----and it is the truth. He is the guy I want up least when I want a clutch hit in a tough situation and if you haven't realized it by or simply don't want to that is your problem, but, again it is the truth. OTOH, Fister surprised everybody tonight and gave us seven terrific inning and pitched into the eighth and even Workman did a good job finishing up. They aren't Sonny Gray but tonight they were just as good as he would have been. Devers may just be who we need. What about Pedroia? When are we getting him back? We do need him too.
Truth does hurt but every damn day post after post. Everyone here gets your point.Try to leave it alone for a while you just may ENJOY your DAY a bit better.Same for FARRELL. No one really likes what he does with the lineup but moving up Devers and Nunez batting 3rd worked yesterday.In sports the wins are great and the losses suck but there will always another day to root for the Sox.
B I N G O dat !!! But it is nice/fun to get the opportunity to play the G M & MANAGER.... Al GORES INTERNET has played a big part in reaching our dreams !! Heck, even before that, sports was always about the FANS & THIER OPINIONS !!! thumb_u rofl
Bashing one player day in day out is not IMO playing GM.
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 31, 2017, 09:27:31 PM
I've not figured out what makes Bett's swing not work, but after watching tonight, it looks like his swing shrunk overnight. Triceps in tight type of feeling instead of big swings. It's kind of surprising how much quicker and 'torquier' that feels.
To me, it is great to see Vasquez going the other way again this weekend. He got that home run a month ago and got all big eyed with the rest of the team.
XB made two good plays an got lucky with that tag on the throw by Holt. Was it me, or did he look calmer in the box tonight?
He doesn't get his arms extended, it's all short swings and he can't get behind the ball. I haven't watched close enough to see if he's just biting on too many inside pitches or what, but the're keeping his arms in.
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on July 31, 2017, 11:08:48 PM
Quote from: MongoLikeSox on July 31, 2017, 09:27:31 PM
I've not figured out what makes Bett's swing not work, but after watching tonight, it looks like his swing shrunk overnight. Triceps in tight type of feeling instead of big swings. It's kind of surprising how much quicker and 'torquier' that feels.
To me, it is great to see Vasquez going the other way again this weekend. He got that home run a month ago and got all big eyed with the rest of the team.
XB made two good plays an got lucky with that tag on the throw by Holt. Was it me, or did he look calmer in the box tonight?
The longer the swing, the more that can go wrong with it. A shorter, more compact swing is always better for more force with less effort. One more thing. Today we see many players lifting the ball and uppercutting. I have never liked that unless the guy had big time power. Most of our guys need to hit down on the high pitches for more line drive alley shots. You look at two of the greatest hitters in baseball history-----Lou Gehrig and Henry Aaron and they actually hit down on the ball from belt high up---and the fact is you can hit with power that way too. Too many our guys are trying to be Chris Bryant and Mike Trout and we don't have any guys like that on our team.
I just posted that I think it's the opposite with Betts. XB seems to be the one who has had the long loping swing, like a golf swing.
When Bogaerts struck out last night he had the classic Rich German, Walt Hiriniak pose. Many believe that Hiriniak ruined German as hitter. The next time up Bogaerts hit the ball well and he didn't exhibit that Hirniak swing but hit through the ball.
Quote from: elktonnick on August 01, 2017, 10:00:18 AM
When Bogaerts struck out last night he had the classic Rich German, Walt Hiriniak pose. Many believe that Hiriniak ruined German as hitter. The next time up Bogaerts hit the ball well and he didn't exhibit that Hirniak swing but hit through the ball.
Bogey is not hitting/playing well because he is hurting...... Pain in the limbs are not conducive to the ballplayer.... Put another way, less than 100% pain free and it hampers the player !!