ROYALS V RED SOX
SUNDAY, JULY 30, 2017, 1:30 PM AT FENWAY PARK
TV: NESN, FSKC
KANSAS CITY, (54-48)........................................................................................BOSTON, (57-47(
KANSAS:
JASON HAMMEL, RHP, 4-8, 4.81 ERA, 87K
In one start against the Red Sox this season on June 19, Hammel allowed
two runs over seven innings in a win. He hasn't won since then. Hammel took
a no-decision in each of his last three starts despite allowing seven earned runs
over 17 2/3 innings.
BOSTON:
DREW POMERANZ, LHP, 10-4, 3.59 ERA, 115K
The lefty has given up three earned runs in seven of his last eight starts.
Pomeranz pitched well in his previous start against the Royals this season,
allowing six hits and two runs over 6 2/3 innings in a no-decision on June 21.
Pomeranz seeks continued success against Royals
Evan Chronis
Red Sox left-hander Drew Pomeranz will look to put the finishing touches on an impressive July when he takes the mound against Royals right-hander Jason Hammel in the rubber game on Sunday at Fenway Park.
The Red Sox snapped the Royals' nine-game win streak with a 9-8 walk-off win in 10 innings on Saturday night. Boston sits a half-game behind the Yankees atop the American League East, while Kansas City is three behind the first-place Indians in the AL Central.
Pomeranz is riding a career-high four straight wins, including three in July. Pomeranz has a 2.60 ERA in six starts during the streak. He will be making his second start of the season against the Royals, allowing six hits and two runs over 6 1/3 innings in a no-decision against Kansas City on June 21.
The former All-Star is tied for fourth place in the American League in wins (10) and 11th in ERA (3.59).
Hammel (4-8, 4.81 ERA) won his last start against the Red Sox on June 19 at Kauffman Stadium, allowing two runs over seven innings, but he has not won since that outing. In his last start, Hammel took a no-decision against the Tigers after giving up three runs in 5 2/3 innings.
THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME
• Hammel is 2-3 with a 4.31 ERA in 14 career appearances against the Red Sox.
• Hanley Ramirez is 7-for-16 with one double and one home run in his career against Hammel.
• Pomeranz has 115 strikeouts, which ranks 13th in the American League. His 9.61 SO/9.0 IP ratio is 8th in the AL.
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170729245194424/pomeranz-seeks-continued-success-against-royals/?game_pk=491665
RED SOX LINEUP:
BETTS, RF
NUNEZ, 2B
BENINTENDI,LF
RAMERIZ, DH
BRADLY, CF
BOGAERTS, SS
MORELAND, 1B
VAZQUEZ, C
DEVERS, 3B
POMERANZ
Yes, another MUST GAME today !!! Be interesting to see todays lineup !!! thumb_u rofl
Bad news looms ahead boys and gals .Sale has been pushed back to Tuesday for an extra day of rest .Sox will throw the solid Fister tomorrow .This will be interesting going forward.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 30, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
Bad news looms ahead boys and gals .Sale has been pushed back to Tuesday for an extra day of rest .Sox will throw the solid Fister tomorrow .This will be interesting going forward.
THATS a WOW !!! Any explanation ??? iono slap
Does anyone know how to post a video?
Last nite's video of Leon's win is just amazing.
https://www.mlb.com/redsox/?c_id=bos
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 30, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
Bad news looms ahead boys and gals .Sale has been pushed back to Tuesday for an extra day of rest .Sox will throw the solid Fister tomorrow .This will be interesting going forward.
Then we better win today because tomorrow is a lost cause. And it begs the question as to why Fister is still with the team and now in the starting rotation? The guy sucks; we all know that save for Farrell and Dombrowski, both of who should now be on the unemployment line.
Quote from: Bear on July 30, 2017, 02:25:13 AM
RED SOX LINEUP:
BETTS, RF
NUNEZ, 2B
BENINTENDI,LF
RAMERIZ, DH
BRADLY, CF
BOGAERTS, SS
MORELAND, 1B
VAZQUEZ, C
DEVERS, 3B
POMERANZ
Not sure if I could have played (LITTLE LEAGUE) with a broken TOE or a bad WRIST.... Today will tell us a lot about Bogey & Morelands ability to more pain & play !!! iono slap
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 30, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
Bad news looms ahead boys and gals .Sale has been pushed back to Tuesday for an extra day of rest .Sox will throw the solid Fister tomorrow .This will be interesting going forward.
::) :P I guess they can't use Johnson who has a shoulder issue. Is there no one else?
That magnifies today as a must win. Hammer stinks but he hasn't had a W since - you guessed it! - he faced the Sox a month and a half ago! So, this is a pitchers' duel because of our inept offense.
Good start to the game. 2-0 Sox after 2 innings.
Quote from: Bill-806 on July 30, 2017, 11:11:44 AM
Quote from: Bear on July 30, 2017, 02:25:13 AM
RED SOX LINEUP:
BETTS, RF
NUNEZ, 2B
BENINTENDI,LF
RAMERIZ, DH
BRADLY, CF
BOGAERTS, SS
MORELAND, 1B
VAZQUEZ, C
DEVERS, 3B
POMERANZ
Not sure if I could have played (LITTLE LEAGUE) with a broken TOE or a bad WRIST.... Today will tell us a lot about Bogey & Morelands ability to more pain & play !!! iono slap
WELL, I'll be, back to back hits by the walking wounded produce a run for our SOX !! thumb_u rofl
Sox up 2 -0 in the 3rd .Vazquez and Moreland with the clutch hits.
Pomeranz looks real good thru 3.
Rays up 4-2 on the Yanks.
Listening to Gomes and O'Brien and Gomes makes you really appreciate what we lost when NESN fired Don Orsillo.
DEVERS Homers !!! As DAD would say, "SON, how ya going to keep that boy down on the FARM" !!! 3-1 SOX thumb_u rofl
3-1 Sox after 7. Pomerantz did a good job. He went 6.2 innings. Workman in. Gives up a double but k's the next guy for the 3rd out. Need to get through the 8th to get to Kimbrel time. Barnes in to pitch the 8th.
Yet another XB error. Devers must be thinking, "And they whine about my errors?"
Not a good start to the 8th. Error by Xman and an infield single put guys on 1st & 2nd no outs. Loaded up now with no outs after a single to rf.
Quote from: Schloicka on July 30, 2017, 03:00:40 PM
Not a good start to the 8th. Error by Xman and an infield single put guys on 1st & 2nd no outs. Loaded up now with no outs after a single to rf.
" Hang on for heavy rolls, as the SHIP is coming about" !!!! thumb_u rofl
Two plays Nunez didn't make that I think Pedey would have.
Tied up. Still nobody out. Runners on 2nd & 3rd.
A Fister like performance by Barnes. Another one for the loss column.
Can't blame Barnes for XB's screwup or the shot he took off the chest, but otherwise, yeah, not such a good outing.
This game is just about over.
Meamwhile in NY a real manager makes the quick swithes and does not wait for a disaster and the NYY get out of a bases loaded jam.
DAMN.
What is it with Kansas City and scoring
4 runs in an inning.
DAMN - Drew Pomeranz pitched well and
deserved a win.
I HATE this bullpen . . .
Quote from: ojdidit on July 30, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Meamwhile in NY a real manager makes the quick swithes and does not wait for a disaster and the NYY get out of a bases loaded jam.
Definitely. Joe Girardi will pull a pitcher
at any time. EVEN a starting pitcher can
be pulled after 2 or 3 innings.
DANG IT.
Quote from: elktonnick on July 30, 2017, 01:45:07 PM
Listening to Gomes and O'Brien and Gomes makes you really appreciate what we lost when NESN fired Don Orsillo.
Why did they fire Orsillo? Well, whenever. bigger things loom, like getting an out.
With a heavy heart !!! The SOX are killing me !!!
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on July 30, 2017, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on July 30, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Meamwhile in NY a real manager makes the quick swithes and does not wait for a disaster and the NYY get out of a bases loaded jam.
Definitely. Joe Girardi will pull a pitcher
at any time. EVEN a starting pitcher can
be pulled after 2 or 3 innings.
DANG IT.
Barnes wasn't the same after the shot off his chest. JF screwed up .
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on July 30, 2017, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on July 30, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Meamwhile in NY a real manager makes the quick swithes and does not wait for a disaster and the NYY get out of a bases loaded jam.
Definitely. Joe Girardi will pull a pitcher
at any time. EVEN a starting pitcher can
be pulled after 2 or 3 innings.
DANG IT.
I think on this board the majority of posters have been critical of Farrell's tolerance level for pitchers. Seems it is always a batter too late too often. I have read posts during the game where posters on this board have made mention rhat someone just does not look right. Seems that the posters have a better feel for our pitchers than a former pitcher turned manager.
And we'll see the BP extraordinaire next week, on the other club.
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=rel&lg=al&qual=0&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0
Top three bullpens: NYY, Cleveland and Boston.
3-7 for their last 10 games. This team has sucked since the ASB. sigh sigh iono
DANG IT -
Sox LOSE 5 - 3.
The bullpen BLEW this game.
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Really wanted this win.
AND the Sox left the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th inning . . .
Bases loaded and Mookie flies to center ..... Devers did his job...... My, how do we loose these games !!
MEANWHILE -
(Doesn't affect us -)
The Blue Jays scored 7 runs in the bottom of the 9th inning
to stun the Angels 11 - 10.
The Angels had a 10 - 4 lead going into the bottom of the 9th inning.
Unbelievable.
Why can't we do that?
Might be time to give Betts a rest. Only hitting .238 in July (thankfully it's almost over) & .091 in the past week. He's killing the team as much as anyone else is. Move him down in the lineup or give him a few days off. Need to do something.
He had 2 days off last week last day of Ms series and travel day.Just may not be the superstar the so called experts thought he was going to be.
Beni is another who looks totally lost at the plate.He definitely needs to be down the ladder.
Only good thing about today, New York also lost.
We can't go into a playoff thinking the other guy is going to lose.
No sure if we're going to get any help Monday.
Quote from: Bear on July 30, 2017, 04:54:11 PM
Only good thing about today, New York also lost.
We can't go into a playoff thinking the other guy is going to lose.
No sure if we're going to get any help Monday.
TRUE DAT, will be interesting what the Monday trade deadline brings !!! iono
Mookie and Bogey both look lost out there. We get two guys on, the pitcher cant' find the plate, Bogey swings at the first pitch for a lazy fly ball. He can't even act like he's interested at this point. Betts may be pressing or something, but he has not been the same ballplayer for nearly a year now. It's possible the "real" Mookie Betts is this guy.
Two things I think are tough to take right now - first of all is every team is making moves. Even the Royals pulled off a trade mid game to add pop to a lineup that has plenty of pop. The Yankees are picking up pitchers everywhere as they had a bad bullpen. Tampa Bay picked up Duda and some pitching. Meanwhile we are running Fister out there tomorrow night which is almost like waving a white flag. It feels like we're basically going to hope that if a couple of guys can hit 20 points higher - or get about a couple of hits month a more - will make a difference.
I don't mind anyone swinging at the first pitch if they make solid contact. The problem is Bogaerts isn't making solid contact. At least on the fly out he got the ball in the air. He hasn't been doing that very often. Bogaerts mechanics look all out of wack. I think the wrist has effected his swing; he should have been put on the DL. Betts also looks bad at the plate. So does Beninintendi.
Quote from: Bill-806 on July 30, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
Bases loaded and Mookie flies to center ..... Devers did his job...... My, how do we loose these games !!
Bill---You mean you don't know???? Silly. Very easy really. We have a manager who not only doesn't know what the hell he's doing, but when he does something he should do he does it a batter or too late----and he does that just about all the time. To me there are three reasons possibly for these continuous @#$%-ups. One he is dumb and inept as a field manager. By now that's a given here. Secondly, I have noticed since the beginning of the 2014 season that this moron has a lot of trouble making up his mind, thereby making decisions as to who plays and what moves to make usually a late decision or an afterthought. Thirdly, the guy just happens to be very stubborn and seems to ignore the old Einstein dictum that to try and get a different result by continuously doing the same thing is INSANITY. Here might be some examples of such ineptitude.
1. HE HAS PITCHED BARNES WAY TOO MANY TIMES TWO DAYS IN A ROW---SOMETHING OTHERS, MANY BEFORE I NOTICED, THAT BARNES IS U TTERLY INCAPABLE OF PITCHING TWO DAYS IN A ROW FOR WHATEVER REASON. He constantly fails in these situations, but today he was amply helped by another miscue by Bogaerts who all of you by know that I despise as a loser and choker.
2. Betts is NOT a leadoff hitter, should be hit ting third to fifth but he stays at No. 1 and fails and fails and fails. Why not move him down in the lineup and see if we can get a better result
2. He is always late in removing a tired or an unsuccessful pitcher, something good managers like Girardi, Scioscia, Madden and even Roberts don't do.
When you add it all up, if you are counting games, you will see that even though our team is playing piss poor ball it would still be in first place in Farrell's palsied hands hadn't cost us between five and nine games this season alone. This man will never make a move to help you win one, well very very rarely, but he will be a menace to lose one every we get in a close game. Perhaps his hesitancy in removing a pitcher is that he was one himself and we know how pitchers hate to come out. The others I mentioned were not and perhaps they have a different mind set from the Moronic one, and most likely a credible mind.
Quote from: BoSoxFanNY on July 30, 2017, 03:57:57 PM
MEANWHILE -
(Doesn't affect us -)
The Blue Jays scored 7 runs in the bottom of the 9th inning
to stun the Angels 11 - 10.
The Angels had a 10 - 4 lead going into the bottom of the 9th inning.
Unbelievable.
Why can't we do that?
Why can't we do that?????? Are you freakin' kidding me????? Think 2014, 2015 and 2017 and see what constant has been there all this time. Hint.....he resides in the dugout and takes up needed space.
No two ways around it---this club is in a tailspin.
It won't surprise me at all if this team doesn't even make the playoffs.
Quote from: longgame on July 30, 2017, 05:10:34 PM
Mookie and Bogey both look lost out there. We get two guys on, the pitcher cant' find the plate, Bogey swings at the first pitch for a lazy fly ball. He can't even act like he's interested at this point. Betts may be pressing or something, but he has not been the same ballplayer for nearly a year now. It's possible the "real" Mookie Betts is this guy.
Two things I think are tough to take right now - first of all is every team is making moves. Even the Royals pulled off a trade mid game to add pop to a lineup that has plenty of pop. The Yankees are picking up pitchers everywhere as they had a bad bullpen. Tampa Bay picked up Duda and some pitching. Meanwhile we are running Fister out there tomorrow night which is almost like waving a white flag. It feels like we're basically going to hope that if a couple of guys can hit 20 points higher - or get about a couple of hits month a more - will make a difference.
I'll say it again. Bogaerts is stupid, lazy, blase and a full time choke artist, now in the field as well as at the plate. I think the tropical island never escaped him and he has become a lazy, shiftless bum who ought to be trying to emulate his fellow countryman Aldreton Simmons of the Angels who has evolved into a fierce competitive leader for the Angels.
I am sorry Fred but that was over the line. Bogaerts is none of those things. He is a ballplayer with a heck of a lot of talent who has a sore wrist which has affected his swing. I can see it when he swings. This has affected the rest of his mechanics at the plate.
I question the decision not to put him on the DL and the coaching I see of lot of the old Rich Gedman Walt Hriniak swing in his mechanics. Isn't Gedman now coaching in the Red Sox organization?
7-10 since the ASB
8-13 since that 6 game winning streak.
They look like s--t. Awful. DOA.
I said Hammel would have a great game against these chumps and he did.
Here comes CLE to just annihilate us.
Quote from: elktonnick on July 30, 2017, 06:16:49 PM
I am sorry Fred but that was over the line. Bogaerts is none of those things. He is a ballplayer with a heck of a lot of talent who has a sore wrist which has affected his swing. I can see it when he swings. This has affected the rest of his mechanics at the plate.
I question the decision not to put him on the DL and the coaching I see of lot of the old Rich Gedman Walt Hriniak swing in his mechanics. Isn't Gedman now coaching in the Red Sox organization?
Bogaerts may not be those things to you Elk and while I may have been a little over the top on him because of my intense dislike for the guy, he IS SOME of those things. In close games since he came up he has proven to be close to inept batting with a game on the line. With a big lead or deficit he'll get a hit or two, but almost never with a tie of one run game. I have seen this repeatedly since the Hope Opening Series in 2014 when he left between 15-18 runners on base in three games where a key hit by that guy would have netted two wins in the first and second games. I know---I WAS THERE. If you watched the Yankee series at Fenway two weeks ago you saw him fail over and over with runners on base and then taking his inept hitting out to the field with him and making key errors that eventually did in the team. He also was failing at the plate before he hurt his hand, though, to be honest, it got much worse for him at the dish after that accident. He constantly loses focus on the bases and runs the team into outs and I question whether his mind is even in the game lately, and he was guilty of base running lapses and fielding problems before he got hurt. Hell, he was almost useless the last two months of last season, doing very little while the Red Sox were driving to the AL East Title. Right now he is a minus for us and, yes, I do agree with you that he should be put on the DL. I also think that the Red Sox should now be sellers because we are NOT going anywhere this season and I think while he has some real value left Bogaerts would be the ideal trade chip to deal away because in my opinion we've seen the best we're ever going to see in him. Thanks for the reply.
PS---Coming up 47 for Linda and I on Tuesday.
Quote from: elktonnick on July 30, 2017, 06:16:49 PM
I am sorry Fred but that was over the line. Bogaerts is none of those things. He is a ballplayer with a heck of a lot of talent who has a sore wrist which has affected his swing. I can see it when he swings. This has affected the rest of his mechanics at the plate.
I question the decision not to put him on the DL and the coaching I see of lot of the old Rich Gedman Walt Hriniak swing in his mechanics. Isn't Gedman now coaching in the Red Sox organization?
B I N G O dat !!!! Baseball is not a game that you can play through a lot of injury's..... Being, anything like the wrist that effects hitting if sore or injured will effect your swing..... The D L is where he should have gone 3 weeks ago !!
Most fans understand that!!!