RED SOX V RANGERS
WEDNESDAY, JULY 5, 2017, 8 PM AT GLOBE LIFE PARK IN ARLINGTON
TV: NESN, FSSW
BOSTON, (49-35)...................................................................................TEXAS, (40-44)
DOUG FISTER, RHP, 0-1, 4.91 ERA, 11K
The sinkerballer has pitched well in his first two starts for the Red sox since
being claimed off waivers from the Angels. Lifetime on the road Fister is 36-40
with a 3.94 ERA.
TEXAS:
ANDREW CASHNER, RHP, 3-7, 3.87 ERA, 36K
Cashner came off the DL on June 29 and allowed five runs in five innings
to the Indians. He also suffered a contusion on his right forearm when hit by
a broken bat. He pitched against Boston on May 23 and also allowed five runs
in five innings.
Red Sox eye sweep, 7-game winning streak
The Red Sox will try to extend their winning streak to a season-high seven games and sweep the Rangers when the two squads take the field Wednesday night at Globe Life Park.
Boston right-hander Doug Fister will make his third start of the season after allowing three earned runs in each of his previous two outings, totaling 11 innings.
"I'm feeling really good about things," Fister said. "I feel really good about the action on the pitches and the control of things."
Fister has allowed three or fewer earned runs in six of his last seven starts against the Rangers, throwing six innings in five of those outings.
"They've got a great lineup and you've got to respect every one of them with the tools they have," Fister said. "You've got to go out and execute."
Hoping for better luck than his last time out, right-hander Andrew Cashner will start for the Rangers. Cashner exited his most recent start last Thursday in Cleveland after he was hit in the stomach and right forearm by a piece of a broken bat.
Cashner took the loss, going five-plus innings while allowing five earned runs on six hits and two walks. He had to depart after just 81 pitches after the freaky injury.
"I thought I threw the ball well. I kind of lost a grip on it after I got hit with the bat," Cashner said. "I couldn't really throw my slider. My forearm hurt too much, but I'm looking forward to getting back out there."
THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME
• Rangers third baseman Joey Gallo, who struck out as a pinch-hitter Tuesday, is 2-for-22 with two homers, seven walks and 16 strikeouts in his last 11 games. He had the lowest qualifying average in the American League at .192 entering Tuesday's games.
• Cashner has faced the Red Sox only once in his 215 Major League appearances, allowing five runs on six hits to earn the loss on May 23. Xander Bogaerts had two hits off Cashner, including a two-run single in the fifth inning, Cashner's last.
• The Red Sox are 14-0 this season when stealing multiple bases. In their last 24 games, Boston is 20-for-25 (80 percent) in stolen-base attempts. On Tuesday against Texas, Christian Vazquez and Tzu-Wei Lin executed a double steal in the second inning.
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170705240460174/red-sox-eye-sweep-7-game-winning-streak/?game_pk=491365
Red Sox v. Cashner:
Betts RF,
Pedroia 2B,
Bogaerts SS,
Moreland 1B,
Ramirez DH,
Benintendi LF,
Bradley Jr. CF,
Vázquez C,
Lin 3B,
Fister RHP
So far the little dude from TAIWAN sure has impressed.While not the long term answer he has been what the team desperately needed now especially on defense.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 10:14:15 AM
So far the little dude from TAIWAN sure has impressed.While not the long term answer he has been what the team desperately needed now especially on defense.
B I N G O dat !!! thumb_u rofl
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 10:14:15 AM
So far the little dude from TAIWAN sure has impressed.While not the long term answer he has been what the team desperately needed now especially on defense.
I'm not sure what the question is when we are looking for a long term answer. Lin is only 23. Can play 3 infield positions fairly well. Is a pretty good ball player coming up from AA. He and Marrero have done very well on defense. Both have been hitting fairly well. Lin is hitting .360 right now. (.381 this past week) Obviously I don't expect him to hit at that level forever but it's been the guys at the bottom of the order who have been the catalyst for our recent success. Betts can't get 8 RBI if the bottom of order doesn't get on. If the top of the order last night had hit anything the Sox would of scored 15 runs. The bottom of order was on all night. Right now I ride the people who have been playing. I don't want to see a Holt or Panda brought up. When or if the combo of Lin and Marrero hit the skids then I think about a change. Until then I don't want to see any changes just for change sake.
We have seen many times how a young guy can come up and provide a spark for a team. Lin may revert to his minor league batting stats, but no need to worry about that now. Enjoy it while it's here.
Quote from: Schloicka on July 05, 2017, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 10:14:15 AM
So far the little dude from TAIWAN sure has impressed.While not the long term answer he has been what the team desperately needed now especially on defense.
I'm not sure what the question is when we are looking for a long term answer. Lin is only 23. Can play 3 infield positions fairly well. Is a pretty good ball player coming up from AA. He and Marrero have done very well on defense. Both have been hitting fairly well. Lin is hitting .360 right now. (.381 this past week) Obviously I don't expect him to hit at that level forever but it's been the guys at the bottom of the order who have been the catalyst for our recent success. Betts can't get 8 RBI if the bottom of order doesn't get on. If the top of the order last night had hit anything the Sox would of scored 15 runs. The bottom of order was on all night. Right now I ride the people who have been playing. I don't want to see a Holt or Panda brought up. When or if the combo of Lin and Marrero hit the skids then I think about a change. Until then I don't want to see any changes just for change sake.
Corner positions are viewed as power spots and you don`t usually see singles type guys play there.Its way to early to speculate that far ahead.Neither guy has the minor stats that would make one think they can maintain a BA in the .270 range.Both thankfully have been key players lately. Perhaps Lin will be the next Holt type guy.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on July 05, 2017, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 10:14:15 AM
So far the little dude from TAIWAN sure has impressed.While not the long term answer he has been what the team desperately needed now especially on defense.
I'm not sure what the question is when we are looking for a long term answer. Lin is only 23. Can play 3 infield positions fairly well. Is a pretty good ball player coming up from AA. He and Marrero have done very well on defense. Both have been hitting fairly well. Lin is hitting .360 right now. (.381 this past week) Obviously I don't expect him to hit at that level forever but it's been the guys at the bottom of the order who have been the catalyst for our recent success. Betts can't get 8 RBI if the bottom of order doesn't get on. If the top of the order last night had hit anything the Sox would of scored 15 runs. The bottom of order was on all night. Right now I ride the people who have been playing. I don't want to see a Holt or Panda brought up. When or if the combo of Lin and Marrero hit the skids then I think about a change. Until then I don't want to see any changes just for change sake.
Corner positions are viewed as power spots and you don`t usually see singles type guys play there.Its way to early to speculate that far ahead.Neither guy has the minor stats that would make one think they can maintain a BA in the .270 range.Both thankfully have been key players lately. Perhaps Lin will be the next Holt type guy.
Tell that to WADE BOGGS !!!
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on July 05, 2017, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 10:14:15 AM
So far the little dude from TAIWAN sure has impressed.While not the long term answer he has been what the team desperately needed now especially on defense.
I'm not sure what the question is when we are looking for a long term answer. Lin is only 23. Can play 3 infield positions fairly well. Is a pretty good ball player coming up from AA. He and Marrero have done very well on defense. Both have been hitting fairly well. Lin is hitting .360 right now. (.381 this past week) Obviously I don't expect him to hit at that level forever but it's been the guys at the bottom of the order who have been the catalyst for our recent success. Betts can't get 8 RBI if the bottom of order doesn't get on. If the top of the order last night had hit anything the Sox would of scored 15 runs. The bottom of order was on all night. Right now I ride the people who have been playing. I don't want to see a Holt or Panda brought up. When or if the combo of Lin and Marrero hit the skids then I think about a change. Until then I don't want to see any changes just for change sake.
Corner positions are viewed as power spots and you don`t usually see singles type guys play there.Its way to early to speculate that far ahead.Neither guy has the minor stats that would make one think they can maintain a BA in the .270 range.Both thankfully have been key players lately. Perhaps Lin will be the next Holt type guy.
Lin was hitting .302 at AA this year before his call up. Maybe he has figured it out? I don't expect him to hit .300 but if he can be counted on to play good defense and hit around .280 I have no problem with him. The Sox don't really need power from their 3rd baseman. With Betts, Moreland, Beni, Hanley and JBJ they'll be ok in the power department. What they have needed at the bottom of the order is someone to get on base for Betts. Holt doesn't really play any better than Lin has been. Only advantage Holt has is he can play the outfield too. If I was going to make any move it would be to bring Devers up if you want some power from 3rd base. Other than that stay with the current situation until you really need to make a change.
Myself I worry more about Xman. He has an excellent average but I think it is weak. I'd rather see him hit .290 and for power. When I watch him you can tell he's not interested in power. If you want to hit for power you need to go to the plate trying to do that.
I'm getting the feel that DD is going to make a trade for an established 3b at the deadline, more than any other position. A guy with some power. Doesn't need a big contract guy, just a reliable everyday player that won't cost much as far as prospects.
I see that even Panda is outhitting Peralta( now just a singles hitter) at Pawtucket. Holt is still getting his legs. Like said above we need a power bat at 3B. Maybe a guy for 1.5 seasons until Devers is ready.
We can speculate all we want but Devers is the future at 3rd .That is the end of the story as far as that position is concerned.
As far as Lin we will see if he is still around and helping out come August 1st.Geez, the kid has only a sip of coffee up with the Sox.He can just as quickly go 2-20 and conversation is over.Let's ride the wave and see what transpires.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
We can speculate all we want but Devers is the future at 3rd .That is the end of the story as far as that position is concerned.
As far as Lin we will see if he is still around and helping out come August 1st.Geez, the kid has only a sip of coffee up with the Sox.He can just as quickly go 2-20 and conversation is over.Let's ride the wave and see what transpires.
Another B I N G O dat !!
Hopefully, Fister continues to at least keep the game close thru 5-6 innings.Get 7 straight and head to TB with a 4 game lead where it matters the most.
Marrero can't hit RH pitching (.151) and wails on lefties (.361). Lin appears to have some nice bat control and can do the little things well. Hit over .300 against lefties at Portland. So you have two guys that can play the infield with above average defense. In fact Marrero leads all AL third basemen in UZR/150 (250+ innings). Lefty pitches you play Marrero. Righty you play Lin. Can you carry .230 average from the two of them? Based on how the offense has improved I would say yes since their defense is excellent. My only complaint with Marrero is his bunting skills. Almost non-exestant although he had one in Toronto.
Yanks lost again to the Jays .Sox W puts the lead at 4.
Quote from: Rob from Mass on July 05, 2017, 05:05:14 PM
Hopefully, Fister continues to at least keep the game close thru 5-6 innings.Get 7 straight and head to TB with a 4 game lead where it matters the most.
The one thing that I agree totally with the third base situation that has been mentioned is that I don't want Sandoval up here under any circumstances. Salary and contract be damned. He can't field, he can't throw and he can't run, he can't hit right handed and he isn't too swift left handed either. Keep him the heck away from our team. He is a total sunk cost and the team is going great guns right now. We do not need someone to bum it up---which b rings me to Fister. A lot of you are saying he's done well so far. NOT ME!!!!! I was in attendance two Sundays ago when he was facing the Angels. A reversed call on a possible inning ending double play prolonged the inning with the Halos holding only a 1-0 lead. Fister could have and should have bowed his neck and gotten that last out. Instead he got the crap knocked out of him with two booming doubles and a rope single for two more runs. Instead of possibly winning 2-1 we lost 4-2. Last Friday he got bombed for three runs in the first inning against Toronto and it good a gutty and courageous comeback from our team to wring out a dramatic extra inning win in the opener in Toronto. Instead of his giving the other team a fist he gave his team a middle finger twice. Maybe that's why he has been released from a couple of teams already. He needs to go out there tonight and get us a win by pitching solid baseball and his teammates giving him good support to make that happen.
Good news on another front. This afternoon Toronto beat the Yankees 7-6, so we have an opportunity to pick up a little more ground in the AL East race. Every little bit helps and the way the team has seemingly come on lately we need all hands pulling in the same direction. Let's go our there and do the job again. We're now capable of doing just that.
Pouring and lighning.
Game should start 9:30 ET
Not a good way to start the 2nd inning. Double and a dinger. Sox down 2-0.
Another inning, another dinger. Now 3-0 Rangers.
Quote from: markj on July 05, 2017, 09:22:24 PM
Another inning, another dinger. Now 3-0 Rangers.
That's what happens when the pitch does nothing but sit in the middle of the plate. Texas doesn't get cheated when they swing.
Not that the Sox offense is doing anything to help. They've been no-hit through 4 innings so far.
Hard to hold a team like Texas down for 3 games.
I suspect the game is about to get out of hand this inning.
Sure enough. 6-0 in a game where the Sox have no hits. Not gonna take this one.
How did Fister end up with just 4 ER? The only error was his and I didn't think that led to 2 runs. At best he might have gotten one out.
Quote from: markj on July 05, 2017, 09:52:06 PM
Sure enough. 6-0 in a game where the Sox have no hits. Not gonna take this one.
How did Fister end up with just 4 ER? The only error was his and I didn't think that led to 2 runs. At best he might have gotten one out.
They figured that only 4 runs would of scored without his error. They figured he would of had 1 out and only 1 more could score on the 2 fly balls outs since the 2nd fly ball out a run couldn't of scored because it would of been the 3rd out.
Just checking in, looks like Fister did horribly, and Scott just beaned two batters in a row. No hits no runs for the good guys. At least NYY lost today.
And let's hope we never see Panda again.
Quote from: Schloicka on July 05, 2017, 10:05:30 PM
Quote from: markj on July 05, 2017, 09:52:06 PM
Sure enough. 6-0 in a game where the Sox have no hits. Not gonna take this one.
How did Fister end up with just 4 ER? The only error was his and I didn't think that led to 2 runs. At best he might have gotten one out.
They figured that only 4 runs would of scored without his error. They figured he would of had 1 out and only 1 more could score on the 2 fly balls outs since the 2nd fly ball out a run couldn't of scored because it would of been the 3rd out.
Ok, make sense. Still seems odd the runs aren't earned since it was his error, but rules are rules, I guess.
It goes from bad to worse. Two HBP turn into two runs.
Well, it's not going to be a lucky 7 straight. Right now, avoid embarrassment and get a freakin' hit.
Sox show a little bit of life.
Of course Xman gets a hr when it probably won't matter to much.
Wow, that stupid error by the 1B screwed Cashner. Now there goes another hit.
Quote from: markj on July 05, 2017, 10:25:10 PM
Wow, that stupid error by the 1B screwed Cashner. Now there goes another hit.
Well you can't do much when you can't get a hit for six innings plus, and especially when you have a complete dud like Fister on the mound. The bum was released by his first team this season (was it the Nationals or the Tigers?), signed by the Angels and released by them and now he is stinking up the ball field for our team. Hopefully when E-Rod gets back and there are no more injuries to our rotation we can send him to the bullpen, or better yet, send him out of town. The guy just doesn't to know how to stop shitting the bed.
Well tomorrow if we bear down we can start another streak.....just get Chris Sale some support and our chances are good.
Well, XB gets to pad his stats and ruin Cashner's day.
I heard Fister is wandering along the side of the freeway that connects Dallas to Ft. Worth.
Rodriguez should be returning soon. iono
I was stuck with the Ranger's telecast last night before falling asleep. They were very solemn in their demeanor as they were talking about the butt whupping their team had received the last two nights. It was like they were talking in careful tones in a room full of people at a taken-too-early-in-life funueral.
They did get more alive as Fister kept serving up hanging grapefruit.
I know all teams get excited when one of theirs hits a big one, but it seems the Rangers and the whole darned stadium just goes into a next level frenzy. I can see why this team is all about the bomb and there are so may low averages, decent HR numbers and huge K's. That Odor feller - looks like Fievel, swings like Dave Kingman.
As DAD would say, "SON, you can't win them ALL" !! But, it would have been great to sweep the Rangers and run it to 7 straight !! Oh well, its on to Tampa Bay.... Go SOX thumb_u
Fister was only a Sox since there were not other alternatives. I would much rather see pitch than Owens.The loss was not the end of the season.Baseball is a long season and it's day by day wins and losses.We need to take the losses in stride as they will come.
I thought it was funny that they had two games where the Sox won and the crowd had to sit through a long game to get through to the fireworks. When the Rangers won last night, nobody was there, especially late in the game.
Well you can't win every game in baseball and they were due for a loss with a clunker of an offensive performance like that.
3B will be interesting. They're in first place so some of the thinking has to be "keep doing what we're doing while we get ERod back and Price and hopefully Porcello come into form and we ride out the 3B situation", or "this is a good chance to win it all this year and if we could just get some pop in a regular 3B it would be the missing piece."
Quote from: Bear on July 05, 2017, 11:43:36 PM
Rodriguez should be returning soon. iono
A GREE, but we certainly do not know what wee are going to get.... There once was a company in Massachusetts called N C R , aka NEVER COMPLETLY RELIABLE !!! I would say trade him at the NAVY'S earliest possible convenience !!!! thumb_d rofl
Quote from: Bear on July 05, 2017, 11:43:36 PM
Rodriguez should be returning soon. iono
He will fly to TB and throw a BP session.If they like what they see he will stay and work from the pen the last 2 games .If not back to the Pawsox and another rehab start.
Sox apparently got worn out in the heat. If memory serves, we got two hits from our top four in the lineup last two games total.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on July 06, 2017, 10:39:26 AM
Sox apparently got worn out in the heat. If memory serves, we got two hits from our top four in the lineup last two games total.
& that's what happened to Davey Crockett & the boys at the ALAMO, just toooo darn HOT in Texas !! rofl