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Title: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Bear on June 08, 2017, 12:05:56 PM
RED SOX V YANKEES

THURSDAY, JUNE 8, 2017, 7 PM AT YANKEE STADIUM

TV:  NESN, ESPN, YES

BOSTON, (32-26)...............................................................................NEW YORK, ( 33-23)

BOSTON:

DAVID PRICE, LHP, 1-0, 3.00 ERA, 11K

The lefty makes his third start since returning from the disabled list.  Price
struggled mightily against the Yankees last season, going 1-3 with a 7.89 ERA
in five starts.  In his career at Yankee Stadium, he is 8-5 with a 3.98 ERA.

NEW YORK:

MICHAEL PINEDA, RHP, 6-3, 3.76 ERA, 67K

Pineda has been one of the yank's better starters, but turned in a
clunky last time out vs Toronto, allowing five runs and 10 hits over five
frames.  Prior to that, Pineda had a string of nine starts with e earned
runs of fewer allowed.

Price vs. Pineda closes set for AL East's top 2

Matthew Mattell

The Yankees and the Red Sox currently sit first and second in the American League East, adding fuel to what's already one of the most heated rivalries in all of professional sports.

Making Thursday's matchup even more intense is the Yankees will be facing Red Sox left-hander David Price (1-0), who has been sharp in his first two outings since returning from the disabled list at the end of May. Michael Pineda (6-3) will start for the Yankees.

"David Price's addition is going to be a bonus to any rotation. We know that," manager John Farrell said. "But the fact that he was able to get into the eighth inning in his second start, that was really encouraging."

Price dominated in his most recent outing on the road against the Orioles, which came on Saturday, when he tossed seven-plus innings of one-run, three-hit ball with seven strikeouts. The lone blemish came in the seventh when Manny Machado took him deep for a home run.

Despite his lifetime winning record in the Bronx, Price went 0-3 with an 8.10 ERA in three starts at Yankee Stadium last season. Overall against the Yankees in 2016, he was 1-3 with a 7.89 ERA in five starts.

Pineda is coming off his worst outing since his first start of the season. Against the Blue Jays on Friday, the 28-year-old allowed five runs and 10 hits, both of which were season highs.

THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• Pineda has thrown one-third of his pitches while ahead in the count, the fifth-highest rate for anyone with at least 1,000 pitches this season. When he's been ahead, opponents have posted just an 84.6-mph average exit velocity and a .166 expected batting average (based on Statcast hit probabilities).

• Switch-hitter Chase Headley, who has struggled this season from the right side, is 11-for-33 (.333) lifetime against Price with three extra-base hits.

• Right fielder Mookie Betts is 6-for-20 (.300) lifetime against Pineda with two doubles and two home runs.

• Price has an 8-5 career record at Yankee Stadium, though his 3.98 ERA is his third-worst mark at any AL ballpark.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170607235023310/price-vs-pineda-closes-set-for-al-easts-top-2/?game_pk=490994
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Bear on June 08, 2017, 12:06:21 PM
Here are the full lineups for Thursday’s Red Sox-Yankees series finale.

RED SOX (32-26)

Mookie Betts, RF
Andrew Benintendi, LF
Xander Bogaerts, SS
Mitch Moreland, 1B
Hanley Ramirez, DH
Jackie Bradley Jr., CF
Josh Rutledge, 2B
Pablo Sandoval, 3B
Christian Vazquez,

C David Price, LHP (1-0, 3.00 ERA)

YANKEES (33-23)

Brett Gardner, LF
Aaron Hicks,
CF Aaron Judge,
RF Matt Holliday,
DH Starlin Castro,
2B Gary Sanchez, C
Didi Gregorius, SS
Chase Headley, 3B
Chris Carter 1B

Michael Pineda, RHP (6-3, 3.76 ERA)

http://nesn.com/2017/06/red-sox-vs-yankees-lineup-david-price-starting-crucial-series-finale/
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Bill-806 on June 08, 2017, 01:03:03 PM
  It would be sooooo good to depart  N Y with a take of the series 2-1 .....  Go SOX, make us proud !! thumb_u iono
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: ipot on June 08, 2017, 05:59:44 PM
Hmmm, let's see what the Sox can do with the 5-6 hits they're gonna get.  Price is on shutout alert.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on June 08, 2017, 01:03:03 PM
  It would be sooooo good to depart  N Y with a take of the series 2-1 .....  Go SOX, make us proud !! thumb_u iono

Would be great to win 2 but I figured the Sox would win 1 which keeps them right in the race. Hard to win 2 in NY. Hopefully the Sox can get that 2nd win.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 06:21:58 PM
Two infield hits and a walk in the 1st and nothing to show for it. Hopefully Price is on tonight.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 06:51:12 PM
Betts and JBJ decide not to catch the ball. Looked like Betts had the best chance. Don't think it was called by either guy since they didn't know if they could catch it.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: markj on June 08, 2017, 07:18:03 PM
Game over. Just like last night.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Yanks have a lot of players who can hit it out. Make a bad pitch and it's gone.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: markj on June 08, 2017, 07:22:20 PM
Yanks aren't done scoring yet. This could get ugly.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: ojdidit on June 08, 2017, 08:16:02 PM
I said it when they signed Price and will continue to say it - this signing will be three or more years of totally dead money. Last season he was a very good, but not a great pitcher.  This season will probably be similar - I go for something like 10-10, 4.00.

The Yankees simply pound away.  Freaking Hicks is .100 points above his career average. Sanchez has taken a strp back except when Boston shows up.  Gardner would hit #4 in Boston.

There - I feel better! sigh
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on June 08, 2017, 08:16:02 PM
I said it when they signed Price and will continue to say it - this signing will be three or more years of totally dead money. Last season he was a very good, but not a great pitcher.  This season will probably be similar - I go for something like 10-10, 4.00.

The Yankees simply pound away.  Freaking Hicks is .100 points above his career average. Sanchez has taken a strp back except when Boston shows up.  Gardner would hit #4 in Boston.

There - I feel better! sigh

Maybe Price will opt out after next season. The drawback is if he's pitching well he'll opt out and if he's not he won't.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: markj on June 08, 2017, 09:08:10 PM
Not the best series for Red Sox pitching. Back-to-back 8-run games. Oof.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: markj on June 08, 2017, 09:10:51 PM
This will not end up as an 8-run game. Will be lucky if it doesn't go 12.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: longgame on June 08, 2017, 09:13:14 PM
Maybe Diva "Not Worth The" Price will talk to reporters tonight.  I bet he felt good....  sigh

This team can be so disappointing the way they wilt against anyone who can throw a strike or two.  The no pop offense just keeps slithering along.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: markj on June 08, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Panda K's looking with bases loaded to end the game. Beautiful.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: ipot on June 08, 2017, 10:04:39 PM
Price stunk tonight but somehow I feel he'll find his groove (call me an optimist on this one 8))

The REAL problem - and I'll say it again - is this shitcan offense that mustered up only 4 flippin' hits!  And I predicted 5 Ha!  Your starting pitcher can give up 2, 3, 4...18 runs but you ain't going anywhere with 4 and 5 hits a night.  We should have been swept if Tanaka didn't give up 3 HRs on 5 hits.  That's how pathetic this offense is.

Something about this NYY team reminds of the 2013 Sox.  Not expected to do much this season, and they are coasting along with a lot of pep and no bona fide marquee names.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 10:10:10 PM
Quote from: markj on June 08, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Panda K's looking with bases loaded to end the game. Beautiful.

At least it didn't matter since the game was already over.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 08, 2017, 10:04:39 PM
Price stunk tonight but somehow I feel he'll find his groove (call me an optimist on this one 8))

The REAL problem - and I'll say it again - is this shitcan offense that mustered up only 4 flippin' hits!  And I predicted 5 Ha!  Your starting pitcher can give up 2, 3, 4...18 runs but you ain't going anywhere with 4 and 5 hits a night.  We should have been swept if Tanaka didn't give up 3 HRs on 5 hits.  That's how pathetic this offense is.

Something about this NYY team reminds of the 2013 Sox.  Not expected to do much this season, and they are coasting along with a lot of pep and no bona fide marquee names.

Bad when you get 2 hits and a walk in the 1st inning and get nothing out of it. The only run scored on a passed ball. Yanks have a lot of guys who can hit the ball out of the park. A lot of threats in the lineup. The Sox have really nobody who'd I consider a threat.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: BoSoxFanNY on June 08, 2017, 10:26:10 PM
Unfortunately, the Yankees are the better team right now.
They have pitching AND hitting.

Not happy with David Price . . .

(STILL wish that they had offered his deal to Jon Lester!)
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: ipot on June 09, 2017, 02:37:36 AM
Quote from: Schloicka on June 08, 2017, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: ipot on June 08, 2017, 10:04:39 PM
Price stunk tonight but somehow I feel he'll find his groove (call me an optimist on this one 8))

The REAL problem - and I'll say it again - is this shitcan offense that mustered up only 4 flippin' hits!  And I predicted 5 Ha!  Your starting pitcher can give up 2, 3, 4...18 runs but you ain't going anywhere with 4 and 5 hits a night.  We should have been swept if Tanaka didn't give up 3 HRs on 5 hits.  That's how pathetic this offense is.

Something about this NYY team reminds of the 2013 Sox.  Not expected to do much this season, and they are coasting along with a lot of pep and no bona fide marquee names.

Bad when you get 2 hits and a walk in the 1st inning and get nothing out of it. The only run scored on a passed ball. Yanks have a lot of guys who can hit the ball out of the park. A lot of threats in the lineup. The Sox have really nobody who'd I consider a threat.

Nope.  Not right now.  I thought Hanley would come around but he's just not getting it done.  Betts may well have had that anomaly year like Ellsbury with 30 HRs last year.  He may just be good for about 20 a year.   Bradley definitely has the power but goes hot/cold.  So, yep, we are missing any real threat.  And not enough even to drive in the RBIs.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Muggah on June 09, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Bottom line is the Yankees not only wanted this series more than we did, but they're a better team right now. Plain and simple.

The 800 lb. gorilla in the room at the conclusion of 2016 was that Farrell couldn't get this team to rise to the occasion when the bright spotlights went on against Tito's Tribe in the playoffs. It is still glaringly obvious that Farrell does not and cannot get his team's attention for big games.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Bill-806 on June 09, 2017, 06:51:13 AM
Quote from: Muggah on June 09, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Bottom line is the Yankees not only wanted this series more than we did, but they're a better team right now. Plain and simple.

The 800 lb. gorilla in the room at the conclusion of 2016 was that Farrell couldn't get this team to rise to the occasion when the bright spotlights went on against Tito's Tribe in the playoffs. It is still glaringly obvious that Farrell does not and cannot get his team's attention for big games.
   B I N G O  dat... How do you only score one run in that stadium ???    I want an independent investigation and then I want heads to roll, changes made, NOW Grasshopper !!  thumb_d rofl iono slap
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: longgame on June 09, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
Quote from: Muggah on June 09, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Bottom line is the Yankees not only wanted this series more than we did, but they're a better team right now. Plain and simple.

The 800 lb. gorilla in the room at the conclusion of 2016 was that Farrell couldn't get this team to rise to the occasion when the bright spotlights went on against Tito's Tribe in the playoffs. It is still glaringly obvious that Farrell does not and cannot get his team's attention for big games.

Well said.  That and of course the fact that this team is missing a real threat in the lineup.  They couldn't "replace" Papi so they decided not to try and that's biting them.  It seemed like everyone on the Yankees had at least 10 HRs! 

The Sox also appear to be giving up homers like nobody's business.  You can survive that if you pitch well and keep them to solo shots, but not if there are two men on all the time.  Add to that the runs we give away and it's not a good formula.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Schloicka on June 09, 2017, 09:39:49 AM
Quote from: longgame on June 09, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
Quote from: Muggah on June 09, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Bottom line is the Yankees not only wanted this series more than we did, but they're a better team right now. Plain and simple.

The 800 lb. gorilla in the room at the conclusion of 2016 was that Farrell couldn't get this team to rise to the occasion when the bright spotlights went on against Tito's Tribe in the playoffs. It is still glaringly obvious that Farrell does not and cannot get his team's attention for big games.

Well said.  That and of course the fact that this team is missing a real threat in the lineup.  They couldn't "replace" Papi so they decided not to try and that's biting them.  It seemed like everyone on the Yankees had at least 10 HRs! 


The Sox also appear to be giving up homers like nobody's business.  You can survive that if you pitch well and keep them to solo shots, but not if there are two men on all the time.  Add to that the runs we give away and it's not a good formula.

The Sox are a poorly built team that never took into consideration the effect not having Ortiz in the lineup would have. Who was going to replace almost 40 hr's and over 100 rbi? Even if Betts and Hanley had the same output as last season you still didn't replace Ortiz's output. I look at the Yankee team and the Sox team (what a player does on offense and defense combined) and about the only position the Sox might have an edge at is at 1st base and that is slight if there is an edge. The way the game is played these days you need guys who can hit hr's. If you watch the Yanks and O's they win with the long ball for the most part. They don't have genius managers. (they get bitched about just about everyday to by the fans of their teams) They sit back and wait for the hr.
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Bill-806 on June 09, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: Schloicka on June 09, 2017, 09:39:49 AM
Quote from: longgame on June 09, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
Quote from: Muggah on June 09, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Bottom line is the Yankees not only wanted this series more than we did, but they're a better team right now. Plain and simple.

The 800 lb. gorilla in the room at the conclusion of 2016 was that Farrell couldn't get this team to rise to the occasion when the bright spotlights went on against Tito's Tribe in the playoffs. It is still glaringly obvious that Farrell does not and cannot get his team's attention for big games.

Well said.  That and of course the fact that this team is missing a real threat in the lineup.  They couldn't "replace" Papi so they decided not to try and that's biting them.  It seemed like everyone on the Yankees had at least 10 HRs! 


The Sox also appear to be giving up homers like nobody's business.  You can survive that if you pitch well and keep them to solo shots, but not if there are two men on all the time.  Add to that the runs we give away and it's not a good formula.

The Sox are a poorly built team that never took into consideration the effect not having Ortiz in the lineup would have. Who was going to replace almost 40 hr's and over 100 rbi? Even if Betts and Hanley had the same output as last season you still didn't replace Ortiz's output. I look at the Yankee team and the Sox team (what a player does on offense and defense combined) and about the only position the Sox might have an edge at is at 1st base and that is slight if there is an edge. The way the game is played these days you need guys who can hit hr's. If you watch the Yanks and O's they win with the long ball for the most part. They don't have genius managers. (they get bitched about just about everyday to by the fans of their teams) They sit back and wait for the hr.
  Live by the long ball, die by the long ball !!!   Basic baseball,  get a 3 run jump, then in most cases the other team falls apart and you are into their bullpen !!
Title: Re: GAME #59, BOSTON RED SOX AT NEW YORK YANKEES
Post by: Bill-806 on June 09, 2017, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: Bill-806 on June 09, 2017, 06:51:13 AM
Quote from: Muggah on June 09, 2017, 06:14:44 AM
Bottom line is the Yankees not only wanted this series more than we did, but they're a better team right now. Plain and simple.

The 800 lb. gorilla in the room at the conclusion of 2016 was that Farrell couldn't get this team to rise to the occasion when the bright spotlights went on against Tito's Tribe in the playoffs. It is still glaringly obvious that Farrell does not and cannot get his team's attention for big games.
   B I N G O  dat... How do you only score one run in that stadium ???    I want an independent investigation and then I want heads to roll, changes made, NOW Grasshopper !!  thumb_d rofl iono slap
  Speaking of an investigation ??    Just what is the function of one Fernando LBAD ??? iono