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Title: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Bear on May 11, 2017, 02:52:35 AM
RED SOX V BREWERS

THURSDAY, MAY 11, 2017, 1PM AT MILLER PARK

TV:  NESN, MLBN (OUT-OF-MARKET ONLY) FSWI

BOSTON, (17-16)........................................................................................MILWAUKEE (18-16)

BOSTON:

EDUARDO RODRIGUEZ, LHP, 1-1, 3.07ERA, 37K

Rodriguez posted his third straight quality start Friday night in a no-decision
against the Twins.  The left-hander has the second best ERA among Boston
starters, and he's struck out at least a batter per inning each of his past
three starts.

MILWAUKEE:

JIMMY NELSON, RHP, 1-2, 4.83ERA, 25K

Nelson needed only 30 pitches to toss three hitless innings Friday vs the
Pirates, but a 2-hour 27-minute rain delay ended his start prematurely.  The right-hander
has now gone four outings without a quality start.

Brewers, Nelson go for sweep of Red Sox

Carson Mason

Jimmy Nelson looks to build off his rain-shortened start his last time out, while Boston's Eduardo Rodriguez will seek his fourth straight quality start when the Brewers and Red Sox meet in the series finale at Miller Park on Thursday.

Before a 2-hour, 27-minute weather delay spoiled his outing, Nelson used just 30 pitches to toss three perfect frames in a no-decision against the Pirates on Friday. The right-hander was on his way to ending a shaky three-start run that saw him allow 15 runs over 15 2/3 innings. He'll look to build off his three impressive innings against Boston on Thursday.

Nelson will start the contest after six days of rest, but Brewers manager Craig Counsell doesn't see the right-hander receiving any extra benefits from the time off.

"When we took him out of the game and told him he wasn't pitching Friday night, he was like 'What am I supposed to do for six days?'" Counsell said. "And that's just the way the schedule worked. It was unfortunate."

Opponents are batting .276 against Nelson, who has never faced the Red Sox in five seasons with Milwaukee. Likewise, Rodriguez has yet to face the Brewers over his three-year Major League career.

The left-hander is coming off a no-decision against the Twins on Friday, where he gave up three earned runs on seven hits and one walk over six innings. Over his last two starts, Rodriguez has registered two straight quality starts, allowing four runs over 18 innings, striking out 22.

"I've just been working and trying to throw more strikes and get deep into games. That's my goal right now," Rodriguez said.

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• The Brewers are batting .279 (79-for-283) against lefties and are 4-4 against southpaw starters. Milwaukee is tied for third in the Major Leagues with 13 home runs against left-handers, including five from the left-handed-hitting Eric Thames, who enters Thursday tied for the Major League lead with 13 homers.

• The Red Sox are on a recent power surge, homering in a season-high six straight games entering Thursday's finale. Mookie Betts led off Tuesday's series opener by blasting a 433-foot homer off Brewers starter Wily Peralta. The hit came off his bat at 109.1 mph -- his longest home run and second-hardest of the Statcast era. Jackie Bradley Jr. kept the streak alive on Wednesday with a solo shot.

• Ryan Braun's return to the lineup Tuesday began with a bang. The outfielder barreled a 111.1-mph double to center field that traveled a Statcast-projected 406 feet. The drive was Braun's sixth-hardest extra-base hit of the Statcast Era and his second-hardest batted ball this season. Braun will be available as a pinch-hitter on Thursday after exiting Wednesday's win with left calf tightness.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170510229531628/brewers-nelson-go-for-sweep-of-red-sox/?game_pk=490613
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Bear on May 11, 2017, 03:13:06 AM
RED SOX LINEUP:

BETTS, RF
PEDROIA, 2B
BOGAERS, SS
BENINTENDI, LF
MORELAND, 1B
BRADLEY, CF
RUTLEDGE, 3B
VAZQUEZ, C

RODRIGUEZ, P
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: longgame on May 11, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
RESERVED FOR BITCHING AND COMPLAINING FOR HOW THEY BLOW THE GAME TODAY.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 10:48:43 AM
 Red Sox option Kyle Kendrick, recall lefty reliever, Robbie Ross.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
  I didn't see last nights game, I understand that the SOX hit into 3 D P's ??  When is J F going to learn that you can't play for the big inning & SMALL ball is necessary more than ever in a N L parrrrk  !! 
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
  I didn't see last nights game, I understand that the SOX hit into 3 D P's ??  When is J F going to learn that you can't play for the big inning & SMALL ball is necessary more than ever in a N L parrrrk  !!

If you didn't see the game how can you make a reasonable comment about the dp's? In 2 of the situations there is no way would anyone be bunting. One was with 1 out and a runner at 1st in the 7th. Benintendi grounded into the dp. No way should he be bunting down 7-2. He's one of the few guys that is actually hitting. The other time was in the 8th with the bases loaded and no outs still down 7-2. Your not going to give up an out in that situation. That late in the game you have to hope for the big inning.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
  I didn't see last nights game, I understand that the SOX hit into 3 D P's ??  When is J F going to learn that you can't play for the big inning & SMALL ball is necessary more than ever in a N L parrrrk  !!

If you didn't see the game how can you make a reasonable comment about the dp's? In 2 of the situations there is no way would anyone be bunting. One was with 1 out and a runner at 1st in the 7th. Benintendi grounded into the dp. No way should he be bunting down 7-2. He's one of the few guys that is actually hitting. The other time was in the 8th with the bases loaded and no outs still down 7-2. Your not going to give up an out in that situation. That late in the game you have to hope for the big inning.

He assumes a lot .
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:09:00 PM
Early 1-0 lead in bottom 3 thanks to the Brew crew error in the 1st .E-rod looking good so far .1 h and 2 Ks thru 3 .Only 39 pitches after 3 is very low and unusual for him.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:29:14 PM
Another very good 1-2-3 inning with 2 more Ks. E-rod looks the best I have seen him this season .Very good command mixing pitches really good.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
  I didn't see last nights game, I understand that the SOX hit into 3 D P's ??  When is J F going to learn that you can't play for the big inning & SMALL ball is necessary more than ever in a N L parrrrk  !!

If you didn't see the game how can you make a reasonable comment about the dp's? In 2 of the situations there is no way would anyone be bunting. One was with 1 out and a runner at 1st in the 7th. Benintendi grounded into the dp. No way should he be bunting down 7-2. He's one of the few guys that is actually hitting. The other time was in the 8th with the bases loaded and no outs still down 7-2. Your not going to give up an out in that situation. That late in the game you have to hope for the big inning.

He assumes a lot .
Easy there boys.....  I don't care what the circumstances were.....  A little league coach would tell ya that  3  D P's are too many....... Does anybody on "the keep the line moving" gang know how to go with the pitch ?? thumb_d
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: ipot on May 11, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
This Nelson kid is amazing.  Wow.   ::)
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:59:24 PM
Brewers tie it up with a 2 out clutch double.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
  I didn't see last nights game, I understand that the SOX hit into 3 D P's ??  When is J F going to learn that you can't play for the big inning & SMALL ball is necessary more than ever in a N L parrrrk  !!

If you didn't see the game how can you make a reasonable comment about the dp's? In 2 of the situations there is no way would anyone be bunting. One was with 1 out and a runner at 1st in the 7th. Benintendi grounded into the dp. No way should he be bunting down 7-2. He's one of the few guys that is actually hitting. The other time was in the 8th with the bases loaded and no outs still down 7-2. Your not going to give up an out in that situation. That late in the game you have to hope for the big inning.

He assumes a lot .
Easy there boys.....  I don't care what the circumstances were.....  A little league coach would tell ya that  3  D P's are too many....... Does anybody on "the keep the line moving" gang know how to go with the pitch ?? thumb_d

You don't care what the circumstances were? That's ridiculous. The circumstances at the time are what determine what should be done, not what has already happened.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 02:03:25 PM
Erod had retired 13 straight before the leadoff single to start the 6th.All even at 1 going to the 7th.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 02:08:24 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
  I didn't see last nights game, I understand that the SOX hit into 3 D P's ??  When is J F going to learn that you can't play for the big inning & SMALL ball is necessary more than ever in a N L parrrrk  !!

If you didn't see the game how can you make a reasonable comment about the dp's? In 2 of the situations there is no way would anyone be bunting. One was with 1 out and a runner at 1st in the 7th. Benintendi grounded into the dp. No way should he be bunting down 7-2. He's one of the few guys that is actually hitting. The other time was in the 8th with the bases loaded and no outs still down 7-2. Your not going to give up an out in that situation. That late in the game you have to hope for the big inning.

He assumes a lot .
Easy there boys.....  I don't care what the circumstances were.....  A little league coach would tell ya that  3  D P's are too many....... Does anybody on "the keep the line moving" gang know how to go with the pitch ?? thumb_d

You don't care what the circumstances were? That's ridiculous. The circumstances at the time are what determine what should be done, not what has already happened.
Show me a team that hits into 3 D P's, and I will show you another loss !!!
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
  I didn't see last nights game, I understand that the SOX hit into 3 D P's ??  When is J F going to learn that you can't play for the big inning & SMALL ball is necessary more than ever in a N L parrrrk  !!

If you didn't see the game how can you make a reasonable comment about the dp's? In 2 of the situations there is no way would anyone be bunting. One was with 1 out and a runner at 1st in the 7th. Benintendi grounded into the dp. No way should he be bunting down 7-2. He's one of the few guys that is actually hitting. The other time was in the 8th with the bases loaded and no outs still down 7-2. Your not going to give up an out in that situation. That late in the game you have to hope for the big inning.

He assumes a lot .
Easy there boys.....  I don't care what the circumstances were.....  A little league coach would tell ya that  3  D P's are too many....... Does anybody on "the keep the line moving" gang know how to go with the pitch ?? thumb_d

You don't care what the circumstances were? That's ridiculous. The circumstances at the time are what determine what should be done, not what has already happened.

Excellent point.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 02:23:43 PM
Erod done for the day as Young pinch hit in the 7th.
Another EXCELLENT pitched game with the usual ZERO support.
6ip  3h    1er  0 bb and 5 k on 87 pitches .Easily his best game of the season
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 02:24:43 PM
Kelly on for the 7th.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 02:25:25 PM
Vazquez screwed the whole thing up by throwing the bat at the ball on the hit and run. The ball was going to hit at least a foot in front of the plate so why try to hit it. The runner would of been at 2nd (99.9% chance anyway).
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 02:37:06 PM
Kelly gets out of a little jam .Onto top 8  1-1
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 02:42:52 PM
Pedey with a leadoff 2b and Bogey with a single LF  1st and 3rd  0 outs.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 02:55:38 PM
Bases full for JBJ with 1 out strikes out.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
No shock at all as they get no runs after saks jammed wit 1 out.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 03:01:50 PM
Doesn't seem to matter who is up. They can't get a big hit even by accident.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
Kimbrel on in the 8th with 1 out and Ks Thames
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: longgame on May 11, 2017, 03:15:26 PM
Why is Kimbrel pitching in the 8th in a road game?

Why can't they bring men home?  I had sort of kept tabs on the game but just flipped it on to hear they left 9 on base!  Geez, where's the spark.

As for DPs - a line drive and a guy getting caught off the bag is a far cry from a weak groundout.  And even a hard hit ground ball that is well played is a big difference.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:16:55 PM
IF hit off Kimbrel's leg .2 on 2 out and he gets another K
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:19:48 PM
Kimbrel is simply dominating this season .What a  change from last year.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:23:54 PM
2 on 0 outs thanks to a BBand another Brewer E
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
A big hit finally by Betts. 4-1 Sox now.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:29:26 PM
Watched a replay of Mookie bomb and indeed it was a long bomb to LF.Pedey base running this series has been awful.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: longgame on May 11, 2017, 03:30:23 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
A big hit finally by Betts. 4-1 Sox now.

It seems like that's the first hit like this in a long time.  A 3 run bomb in the 9th inning.  Maybe this can be a spark?   I'm glad I had wandered over to the TV just in time!
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
  Yes, but Mookies home run was set up by the BUNT by the rookie that was misplayed by the  S S at 2nd on the force play.....  Making my point, that you have to put pressure on the defense & pitcher to make things happen.... Play for the long ball & you get D P's........  Gam just ended, be a better ride home tonight !!!
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:43:49 PM
Kimbrel appears to look unhittable recently.Ks the side with power FB around 98-99 with a great curve mixed in.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
  Yes, but Mookies home run was set up by the BUNT by the rookie that was misplayed by the  S S at 2nd on the force play.....  Making my point, that you have to put pressure on the defense & pitcher to make things happen.... Play for the long ball & you get D P's........  Gam just ended, be a better ride home tonight !!!

Bill, you make it sound like they only try for the homers.My advice is to watch more games.It's funny that only you appear to feel that way.I have not heard that at all either on TV or in the newspapers.Give me a break.Its every damn game with same long ball phrase. And the bunt was called for late in the game .You rarely see bunts early in games.And again how can you tell without watching the damn game.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: longgame on May 11, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
  Yes, but Mookies home run was set up by the BUNT by the rookie that was misplayed by the  S S at 2nd on the force play.....  Making my point, that you have to put pressure on the defense & pitcher to make things happen.... Play for the long ball & you get D P's........  Gam just ended, be a better ride home tonight !!!

Bill, you make it sound like they only try for the homers.My advice is to watch more games.It's funny that only you appear to feel that way.I have not heard that at all either on TV or in the newspapers.Give me a break.Its every damn game with same long ball phrase. And the bunt was called for late in the game .You rarely see bunts early in games.And again how can you tell without watching the damn game.

If anything it's been disheartening to watch some of the swings they are taking.  The "bad" DPs come on when they are coming over the top or just not sure on a pitch and knocking down a weak roller.  They need more guys swinging with authority.  The only guy I've seen trying to kill the ball is Hanley from time to time. 
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
  Yes, but Mookies home run was set up by the BUNT by the rookie that was misplayed by the  S S at 2nd on the force play.....  Making my point, that you have to put pressure on the defense & pitcher to make things happen.... Play for the long ball & you get D P's........  Gam just ended, be a better ride home tonight !!!

If anything it proved my point that circumstances determine what the play should be. With no outs and a runner on first in a tie game in the 9th or down by a run the play is to try to move the guy over to 2nd. Especially with your big hitters coming up. If it was a 6-2 game in the 9th that's not the play.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: longgame on May 11, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
  Yes, but Mookies home run was set up by the BUNT by the rookie that was misplayed by the  S S at 2nd on the force play.....  Making my point, that you have to put pressure on the defense & pitcher to make things happen.... Play for the long ball & you get D P's........  Gam just ended, be a better ride home tonight !!!

Bill, you make it sound like they only try for the homers.My advice is to watch more games.It's funny that only you appear to feel that way.I have not heard that at all either on TV or in the newspapers.Give me a break.Its every damn game with same long ball phrase. And the bunt was called for late in the game .You rarely see bunts early in games.And again how can you tell without watching the damn game.

If anything it's been disheartening to watch some of the swings they are taking.  The "bad" DPs come on when they are coming over the top or just not sure on a pitch and knocking down a weak roller.  They need more guys swinging with authority.  The only guy I've seen trying to kill the ball is Hanley from time to time.

100% right on the bad swings. Case in point with the bases loaded JBJ swings at one above the letters .Next 3 pitches are balls .Should have been bases loaded BB. He then proceeds to K.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: ojdidit on May 11, 2017, 04:33:53 PM
E-Rod quietly becoming a solid pitcher.  3.24 ERA in last half 2016. Now 2.80.  No walks today. m
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on May 11, 2017, 04:33:53 PM
E-Rod quietly becoming a solid pitcher.  3.24 ERA in last half 2016. Now 2.80.  No walks today. m
No BBs equals low pitch count .Can`t remember him being under 100 pitches .87 today.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on May 11, 2017, 04:33:53 PM
E-Rod quietly becoming a solid pitcher.  3.24 ERA in last half 2016. Now 2.80.  No walks today. m

He did a nice job today. If it was an American league game he'd of stayed in for at least another inning. If the team gets Price back they will have a pretty solid rotation on paper at least.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
If not for the pitchers keeping us the games this team with the terrible offense would be well below .500
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on May 11, 2017, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
  Yes, but Mookies home run was set up by the BUNT by the rookie that was misplayed by the  S S at 2nd on the force play.....  Making my point, that you have to put pressure on the defense & pitcher to make things happen.... Play for the long ball & you get D P's........  Gam just ended, be a better ride home tonight !!!

Bill---as a former coach who did it for over 30 years you are very right to insist that it is best to put pressure on the pitcher and infielders with a bunt or a hit and run, run and hit, whenever possible.  However, it must be at the right opportunity and you have to have the batter up there who can bunt or hit behind the runner.  Sad to say, today the emphasis on the mound is the guy who can throw 95-98 MPH and the batter who can put it in the seats.  The days of Lou Brock and Maury Wills have gone by the boards, at least at the present time.  Rare for me but to give Farrell some due, he was pretty aggressive in his strategy early in his Red Sox career, but he has come to the Francona method that outs are precious and with that comes the risk of double plays.  It seems a lot of teams have waylaid the idea of hitting behind the runner and stealing bases for the simple way of just going for the downs.  Perhaps with all these shifts we're seeing the pendulum might swing back when batting coaches start teaching hitters how to take advantage of the shift instead of trying to hit through it.  I mean, how many Ted Williams are there out there?

A good win today but I still have deep reservations about our chances.  But I like the way this one turned out.  Now how about getting E-Rod some run support the next few times out.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Schloicka on May 11, 2017, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on May 11, 2017, 04:33:53 PM
E-Rod quietly becoming a solid pitcher.  3.24 ERA in last half 2016. Now 2.80.  No walks today. m

He did a nice job today. If it was an American league game he'd of stayed in for at least another inning. If the team gets Price back they will have a pretty solid rotation on paper at least.

Won`t mean a lot if the bats don`t start hitting with authority more often and also with RISP.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: ipot on May 11, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: ojdidit on May 11, 2017, 04:33:53 PM
E-Rod quietly becoming a solid pitcher.  3.24 ERA in last half 2016. Now 2.80.  No walks today. m

Really coming around.  Indeed.

Wish the offense could come around sooner than later again.  Mookie's dinger saves the day.  And we avoid a sweep.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 06:12:53 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on May 11, 2017, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on May 11, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Mookie has been raking ever since being moved to the lead off spot.
  Yes, but Mookies home run was set up by the BUNT by the rookie that was misplayed by the  S S at 2nd on the force play.....  Making my point, that you have to put pressure on the defense & pitcher to make things happen.... Play for the long ball & you get D P's........  Gam just ended, be a better ride home tonight !!!

Bill---as a former coach who did it for over 30 years you are very right to insist that it is best to put pressure on the pitcher and infielders with a bunt or a hit and run, run and hit, whenever possible.  However, it must be at the right opportunity and you have to have the batter up there who can bunt or hit behind the runner.  Sad to say, today the emphasis on the mound is the guy who can throw 95-98 MPH and the batter who can put it in the seats.  The days of Lou Brock and Maury Wills have gone by the boards, at least at the present time.  Rare for me but to give Farrell some due, he was pretty aggressive in his strategy early in his Red Sox career, but he has come to the Francona method that outs are precious and with that comes the risk of double plays.  It seems a lot of teams have waylaid the idea of hitting behind the runner and stealing bases for the simple way of just going for the downs.  Perhaps with all these shifts we're seeing the pendulum might swing back when batting coaches start teaching hitters how to take advantage of the shift instead of trying to hit through it.  I mean, how many Ted Williams are there out there?

A good win today but I still have deep reservations about our chances.  But I like the way this one turned out.  Now how about getting E-Rod some run support the next few times out.
  B I N G O   &  ADAPT !!! thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: elktonnick on May 12, 2017, 07:24:46 AM
Kimbrel pitched an immaculate inning in the 9th.  3ks on 9 pitches.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: ojdidit on May 12, 2017, 07:47:44 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on May 12, 2017, 07:24:46 AM
Kimbrel pitched an immaculate inning in the 9th.  3ks on 9 pitches.

Based on last season I expected another disappointing string of heart pounding walks with Kimbrel.  Man has this guy proven me wrong on that. With his stuff if he gets it over he is virtually unhittable.  The curve yesterday to Shaw was beyond nasty.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 02:23:16 PM

Kimbrel's 5 Ks match a career-high. The crazy part is it took a mere 20 pitches with a hit in the mix to boot.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 03:23:41 PM
CRAP!!!!...Have tickets to Sat nights Rays game but just heard on the radio that due to rain its moved to 1:05 and can`t make that time.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on May 12, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 03:23:41 PM
CRAP!!!!...Have tickets to Sat nights Rays game but just heard on the radio that due to rain its moved to 1:05 and can`t make that time.

See if you can trade it in for a June 23 ticket for the Red Sox-Angels game when they retire David Ortiz' number.  I'll be flying in for that weekend and, who knows, we could even hook up.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on May 12, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 03:23:41 PM
CRAP!!!!...Have tickets to Sat nights Rays game but just heard on the radio that due to rain its moved to 1:05 and can`t make that time.

See if you can trade it in for a June 23 ticket for the Red Sox-Angels game when they retire David Ortiz' number.  I'll be flying in for that weekend and, who knows, we could even hook up.
I always donate them to a local youth organization so some young kids get a chance to see the Sox.It's 4 tickets and I need to see that at least  1 adult that will be with them.Been doing this for a long time and thankfully no problems have occurred.
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: markj on May 12, 2017, 06:57:09 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on May 12, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 03:23:41 PM
CRAP!!!!...Have tickets to Sat nights Rays game but just heard on the radio that due to rain its moved to 1:05 and can`t make that time.

See if you can trade it in for a June 23 ticket for the Red Sox-Angels game when they retire David Ortiz' number.  I'll be flying in for that weekend and, who knows, we could even hook up.
I always donate them to a local youth organization so some young kids get a chance to see the Sox.It's 4 tickets and I need to see that at least  1 adult that will be with them.Been doing this for a long time and thankfully no problems have occurred.

Good man. My respects. thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #34, BOSTON RED SOX AT MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Post by: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 07:31:50 PM
Quote from: markj on May 12, 2017, 06:57:09 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass link=topic=8135.msg39196#msg39196 date=1494623

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Quote from: SeaBeachFred on May 12, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on May 12, 2017, 03:23:41 PM
CRAP!!!!...Have tickets to Sat nights Rays game but just heard on the radio that due to rain its moved to 1:05 and can`t make that time.

See if you can trade it in for a June 23 ticket for the Red Sox-Angels game when they retire David Ortiz' number.  I'll be flying in for that weekend and, who knows, we could even hook up.
I always donate them to a local youth organization so some young kids get a chance to see the Sox.It's 4 tickets and I need to see that at least  1 adult that will be with them.Been doing this for a long time and thankfully no problems have occurred.

Good man. My respects. thumb_u

Thank you Mark