GAME #90, NEW YORK YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX

[SeaBeachFred]

PANDA is GONE,  D F A  !! 45MIL to follow !! thumb_u rofl

Is this true????? IS THIS TRUE??????  If so I can say gladly I'm thrilled that I was wrong.  More thrilled than you can imagine.  It puts one recurring problem out to oblivion once and for all.  We might ask the Giants who are out of the running this year if they would like Pablo back if they would assume a little of that contract.  It might be worth something to them since they are playing for nothing the second half of this season.  I just hope this is true and Bill is not playing one of his practical jokes on me.   If he's on the level it goes to show that there are times you can jump for joy when you are wrong.

I figured you would enjoy that HUGE DISH OF CROW you will have for supper tonight.
I don't know much about the SFG  general manager Bobby Evans but one would assume he is not stupid enough to eat more than say even 5 m.  If Henry can get someone to eat 10 m  he is a world class genius.

The crow tasted delicious and I saved some to celebrate our great come-from-behind win in the ninth to win the game tonight.  Crazy as you probably know I am I almost lost it when Benintendi walked to force in  that winning run.  Man I yelled, screamed, and almost jumped through my roof.  What a win!!!!  What a win!!!!!  Can we now go on to show that we have what it takes to  take control of our destiny?  Wow!!!!!!!!!

[Schloicka]

Sox pitching overall was good again tonight. Pomerantz did ok. Barnes was great. Scott got the win. Need the offense to hit better with guys in scoring position. A win is a win no matter how you get it. On to Saturday. Let's go Chris Sale.

[SeaBeachFred]

These guys are having the Yankees practically giving them the game and they can't take advantage.  X man looks crappy recently.  His Batting Average is dropping like a rock.  He is looking really bad in clutch situations.

You and Schloik have seen what I've been seeing for most of Bogey's career with us.  He just has trouble hitting in the clutch.  I don't know why unless he is the choker I have accused of being.  Fortunately for me I didn't tune in until the seventh inning since I was doing other things that kept me from watching the game, but I recorded it and will watch it in a few minutes.  But what a comeback.  We finally got some breaks that we took advantage of.  Still, we need Mookie moved to third and Bogaerts down the lineup where his weakness in clutch hitting does not sink the team.

[SeaBeachFred]

It's very simple. There is absolutely zero chance that we compete with a middle of the line-up that includes Chris Young every 2-3-4 days. It cannot happen. There is NO CHANCE. He might pop a few more homer runs by the end of the year, but that is a #7 man at best. AT BEST. He is a good bench player. No chance. None. Zippo. He is supporting cast.

The ONLY chance we have at winning the AL flag is if we decide on and then put our best chance of a good middle lineup into place and leave then the bleep alone. That's the only way this has a chance. It's simple. Option-A = little chance. Option-B = no chance. Whoever it is supposed to be, leave them in there and help them work through it the best they can.

Folks, we talking about a line up that is now platooning 2 of the 4 middle line up spots. NOBODY wins doing this. Ever.

It is NOT even remotely correct to match young out there in the 5-hole. That part-time insistence of R-L-R is over-managing at this point. Other options might be bad options, but Chris Young is never, ever going to be part of that answer. Not the 5-hole. Desperate times might dictate the 6 hole. But not 5th. 

And don't get me started about our 2nd best RBI man pulling splinters out of his ass tonight.

Benintendi was rated the No. 1 prospect in baseball before the season.  He has no business being platooned.  Farrell is a moron as a manager, of that I am convinced.  What he is doing with that platooning is criminal.  He needs to stop that and, as you said go with his best nine players.  Young is a journeyman who did well for the Yanks his first year and not so hot the second.  He needs to be a reserve and nothing more.  I'm totally with you on that my friend.

[SeaBeachFred]

Yankees literally hand the game to the Sox.

And I'l take it.

[SeaBeachFred]

Yes the Yankees gave to game to the sox by errors and poor starting pitching.  The Sox had a chance to make this a laugher early and didn't do it.  That being said but Farrell's double steal call in the 9th was brilliant!  I don't say this often but great call by Farrell that move was the play of the game for me.

Gutty move.  We must give Farrell credit for that, but his platooning is horseshit in my book.  Still we have to be happy to have come from behind to win.  Beating the Yankees always should make our day.

[Schloicka]

These guys are having the Yankees practically giving them the game and they can't take advantage.  X man looks crappy recently.  His Batting Average is dropping like a rock.  He is looking really bad in clutch situations.

You and Schloik have seen what I've been seeing for most of Bogey's career with us.  He just has trouble hitting in the clutch.  I don't know why unless he is the choker I have accused of being.  Fortunately for me I didn't tune in until the seventh inning since I was doing other things that kept me from watching the game, but I recorded it and will watch it in a few minutes.  But what a comeback.  We finally got some breaks that we took advantage of.  Still, we need Mookie moved to third and Bogaerts down the lineup where his weakness in clutch hitting does not sink the team.

Mookie has done virtually nothing since his 8 RBI game. I think he has 2 maybe 3 RBI in his last 9 games and I believe 1 of those RBI was a lead off HR in the 1st inning to start a game. (In those 9 games he's had lots of chances to drive in runs) Most of his hits have come leading off an inning lately. He had 2 more hits like that tonight and popped out again with runners in scoring position. Right now I don't know if we'd be any better off moving him than we are now. Myself I'd put Beni in the 3rd spot and move Xman down to 6th or 7th. Probably 7th behind Betts, Pedroia, Beni, Hanley, Moreland, JBJ then Xman then the catcher then the 3rd baseman.

[ipot]

Yankees literally hand the game to the Sox.

And I'l take it.

Me too.  The baseball gods decided to show mercy on this snoozefest of a lineup. 

I'll remember that bottom of the 9th.  Thx Yankees!

[ipot]

More LOBsters. Looking like Legal Seafood.

;D

[Muggah]

Yankees literally hand the game to the Sox.

And I'l take it.

Me too.  The baseball gods decided to show mercy on this snoozefest of a lineup. 

I'll remember that bottom of the 9th.  Thx Yankees!

Yup! What a way to break our 0-30-something streak when trailing after the 8th inning. The stadium was electric. I couldn't fall asleep for an hour my adrenaline was pumping so hard.

Now let's keep the pedal to the metal and beat this failing Yankee team into oblivion!

[Muggah]

It's very simple. There is absolutely zero chance that we compete with a middle of the line-up that includes Chris Young every 2-3-4 days. It cannot happen. There is NO CHANCE. He might pop a few more homer runs by the end of the year, but that is a #7 man at best. AT BEST. He is a good bench player. No chance. None. Zippo. He is supporting cast.

The ONLY chance we have at winning the AL flag is if we decide on and then put our best chance of a good middle lineup into place and leave then the bleep alone. That's the only way this has a chance. It's simple. Option-A = little chance. Option-B = no chance. Whoever it is supposed to be, leave them in there and help them work through it the best they can.

Folks, we talking about a line up that is now platooning 2 of the 4 middle line up spots. NOBODY wins doing this. Ever.

It is NOT even remotely correct to match young out there in the 5-hole. That part-time insistence of R-L-R is over-managing at this point. Other options might be bad options, but Chris Young is never, ever going to be part of that answer. Not the 5-hole. Desperate times might dictate the 6 hole. But not 5th. 

And don't get me started about our 2nd best RBI man pulling splinters out of his ass tonight.

Benintendi was rated the No. 1 prospect in baseball before the season.  He has no business being platooned.  Farrell is a moron as a manager, of that I am convinced.  What he is doing with that platooning is criminal.  He needs to stop that and, as you said go with his best nine players.  Young is a journeyman who did well for the Yanks his first year and not so hot the second.  He needs to be a reserve and nothing more.  I'm totally with you on that my friend.

Couldn't agree with you more, Fred. Beni has to play everyday.

Farrell is still, by far, this team's biggest liability.

[Rob from Mass]

Yes the Yankees gave to game to the sox by errors and poor starting pitching.  The Sox had a chance to make this a laugher early and didn't do it.  That being said but Farrell's double steal call in the 9th was brilliant!  I don't say this often but great call by Farrell that move was the play of the game for me.

Gutty move.  We must give Farrell credit for that, but his platooning is horseshit in my book.  Still we have to be happy to have come from behind to win.  Beating the Yankees always should make our day.

For at least this game I'll get rid of your word gutty.
It was a great managers move.
That's would be said if Girardi did it to beat us.
So for at least this game that's what I will call JFs move.

[Bill-806]

  Great game, great win ..... That double steel was electric !!  As DAD would say, "SON, ya got to keep the defense off balance" !!    thumb_u rofl

[ojdidit]

Anytime you beat the Yankees it is a "great" game, but the reality is this was a sloppy contest by both teams. Too many lost chances for Boston and too many gifts given by NY. I was also surrounded by Yankee fans, but since 2004 they have been neutered. Both Hanley and Sanchez hit great bombs. Montgomery and Pomeranz are patient zero for a pitch clock. A batter steps out - call a strike unless he has a broken hand. As soon as an ump walks to the mound - automatic ball. 35 minutes for the first inning and almost one hour to get through two.  Final was almost 3 and 1/2 hours. Ugly win.

[elktonnick]

OJ we often don't see eye to eye but on this you are absolutely 100% spot on.  Jim Kaat and Bob Costas were having a cow with Sanchez's trips to the mound.  One trip per pitcher per game that's the rule I'd enforce.  I also agree that if batter steps out its a strike unless its a legitimate injury or dust or dirt is in his eye and then only once per at bat.  They've got to do something to speed up these pitchers.