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Title: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 24, 2017, 04:15:44 AM
YANKEES V RED SOX

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26, 2017, 7:10 PM AT FENWAY PARK

TV:  NESN, YES, MLBN

NEW YORK, 11-7.................................................................................BOSTON, 11-88

NEW YORK:

LUIS SEVERINO, RHP, 1-1, 4.05ERA, 27K

Severino had an encouraging outing on Tuesday against the White Sox, even
if he didn't get the win.  The right-hander racked up 10 strikeouts over a career-
best 8 innings.  He also struck out 11 batters in his previous outing.

BOSTON:

RICK PORCELLO, RHP, 1-2, 5.32ERA, 23K

Porcello had and up-and-down start to the season.  After getting a win
in his first start, he's lost two straight games.  He pitched well enough on
Wednesday vs the Blue Jays, allowing three unearned on six hits over
seven innings.

After delay, Sox host Yanks for first meeting of '17

Bob Cohn

A day later than anticipated, the Red Sox and Yankees at last renew acquaintances on Wednesday night at Fenway Park for the start of what will now be a two-game series.

It will be the first of 19 meetings between the rivals this season.

Rain washed away Tuesday's opener, which will now be played as part of a day-night doubleheader on July 16.
For Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia, the rainout bought him an extra day of recovery after injuring his left knee and ankle over the weekend in Baltimore. Pedroia is expected in Wednesday's lineup.

"Health-wise he's playable," said Red Sox manager John Farrell. "Ready to go. I think we all have been around Pedey long enough to know that there's going to be games he doesn't feel physically 100 percent, but he's played a high number of them. A high pain threshold, strong competitor, ready to get back on the field."

Rick Porcello, last season's American League Cy Young Award winner, draws Wednesday's start for the Red Sox. The Yankees counter with righty Luis Severino. Those are the two pitchers who would have gone Tuesday.

"I think we were ready to go following the day off yesterday," said Farrell. "We're not going to control the weather. You don't necessarily like your pitchers in your starting rotation to be backed up in some cases now seven days, but we're looking forward to getting on the field [Wednesday]."

"It's not what you want, but it is what it is and you've got to deal with it," Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. "Sevvy threw some on Sunday and [Masahiro] Tanaka will probably try to throw a little bit today, maybe in the cage. It's not the perfect world, but it's what we're going to do."

The 11-7 Yankees have started off this season better than most expected, while the Red Sox -- predicted by many to win the AL East -- have had to work hard but are still on a 94-win pace. Injuries and the flu have taken a toll on Boston, but that won't affect the intensity of the rivalry when the clubs meet on Wednesday.

"We know they're extremely talented," Girardi said. "They've been through all kinds of things in the first month of the season, whether it's been injuries or the flu bug or whatever. They've been through a lot. Our club went through a cold, a lot of guys had colds, but our guys weren't getting dehydrated. But they're very talented, we understand that."

The Red Sox also maintain a healthy respect for the Yankees.

"They seem to always be able to put together a very competent, strong pitching staff," Farrell said. "Bringing back [Aroldis] Chapman, that's going to be a very good bullpen again. You never want to underestimate a group of young players like they have and what they're capable of."

The Red Sox will be without third baseman Pablo Sandoval, who was placed on the disabled list on Tuesday with a right knee sprain.

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• The Yankees are 9-14 against the Red Sox in the past 23 games, but since 2000, they have lost just four of the 17 season series.

• Porcello, who went 22-4 with a 3.15 ERA in his Cy Young season, wasn't exactly lights-out in his first two starts, but his third start, against Tampa Bay on April 14, really skewed his stats. In 4 1/3 innings, Porcello yielded eight earned runs, including four homers.

• The Red Sox were the only Major League team with fewer than 10 home runs on the season before Mookie Betts and Hanley Ramirez hit back-to-back blasts in the first inning Sunday against the Orioles. Mitch Moreland also hit a homer in the fifth inning.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170423226023112/sox-host-rival-yanks-for-first-meeting-of-17/?game_pk=490398[/left]
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 24, 2017, 04:29:56 AM
Game 20: Yankees at Red Sox

Julian BEnbow

Here are the lineups:

RED SOX (11-8)   

Bogaerts SS   
Benintendi LF   
Betts RF   
Moreland 1B   
Ramirez DH   
Bradley CF   
Rutledge 3B   
Hernandez 2B   
Leon C
   
Pitching: RHP Rick Porcello (1-2, 5.32)

Pitching: RHP Luis Severino (1-1, 4.05)

Game time: 7:10 p.m.


TV/Radio: NESN, ESPN / WEEI.

Red Sox vs. Severino:

Ramirez 1-8,
Betts 1-6,
Holt 1-7,
Pedroia 3-7,
Bogaerts 1-6,
Benintendi 2-3,
Leon 1-3,
Moreland 1-2,
Sandoval 0-2.

Yankees vs. Porcello:

Gardner 12-35,
Ellsbury 12-32,
Hicks 4-18,
Headley 7-19,
Castro 4-13,
Holliday 3-8,
Bird 0-6,
Carter 0-6,
Torreyes 0-2.

Stat of the day: The Red Sox have recorded 10 or more hits nine times this season. They’re 6-3 in those games.

Porcello trying to get back on track: Rick Porcello hasn’t earned a win since the season opener. He’s 0-2 with 15 runs (11 earned) and 25 hits allowed in three starts since. He went seven innings against the Blue Jays in a 3-0 loss last week and threw a season-high 110 pitches. In 14 career starts against the Yankees, he’s 7-5 with a 3.28 ERA. He’s gone at least seven innings against the Yankees in all five of his starts against them as a Red Sox.


Betts in the swing of things: Eight of Mookie Betts’s 11 RBIs this season came on the Sox’s six-game swing through Toronto and Baltimore last week. He went the first six games of the season without an RBI. He’s hitting .412 (7 for 17) with runners in scoring position this season.


Hitsville, USA: Andrew Benintendi is hitting .500 in his past seven games, going 15 for 30. He’s coming off a 5-for-5 game against the Orioles, the first five-hit game in the majors this season. He leads the Sox with 25 hits.

Other notes:

The Sox are sitting in third place in the AL East after going 3-3 on their road trip. They’re a half-game behind the second-place Yankees, who are making their first trip to Fenway this season …

The Yankees have won 10 of 13 after starting the season 1-4 …

Luis Severino has found a groove in his past two starts. He picked up his first win since 2015 when he went seven innings and struck out 11 against the Rays on April 13. He piled up 10 more Ks in eight innings last Tuesday against the White Sox, but took the loss …

Starlin Castro is on a seven game hit streak with a .407 average, seven RBIs, and two homers in that stretch.

Song of the Day: “Let’s Groove,” Earth, Wind and Fire.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2017/04/25/game-yankees-red-sox/nWkhWXAfT8z5oesa7PZkjJ/story.html?p1=Team_LeadArticle
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 24, 2017, 07:13:21 AM
  Should be a great night, series, & then the Cubs come in.....  A great week at the FENS  !! thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 24, 2017, 08:22:12 AM
Sox may well be without Pedey for the NYY series.Panda also will probably miss the series although that is good news .Hernandez who went 4-9 against the Os and Ruthledge will most likely share 3rd base duties if Panda can`t play.
A side note, Swihart having problems with the bat at AAA hitting .189.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 24, 2017, 09:00:16 AM
Is Panda hurt?
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 24, 2017, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: Bear on April 24, 2017, 09:00:16 AM
Is Panda hurt?

He got hurt in the 6th inning yesterday.The Sox announced Sandoval had left the game with a right knee sprain and was day -to-day.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 24, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Isn't Rutledge hurt too? 
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 24, 2017, 11:02:12 AM
Quote from: longgame on April 24, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Isn't Rutledge hurt too?

He was but now I believe he is playing at Pawtucket.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 24, 2017, 11:22:57 AM
  I see some changes coming to that roster by Tuesdays 1st game with the Yanks....... 2 maybe 3 new faces.... Taylor for sure !!!
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 24, 2017, 12:31:07 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on April 24, 2017, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: Bear on April 24, 2017, 09:00:16 AM
Is Panda hurt?

He got hurt in the 6th inning yesterday.The Sox announced Sandoval had left the game with a right knee sprain and was day -to-day.
Not to be confused with  "DAY to DAY CLAY"  !!!!
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 24, 2017, 03:41:26 PM
Pedey is day to day and Panda will get MRI tomorrow.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 24, 2017, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: Bill-806 on April 24, 2017, 07:13:21 AM
  Should be a great night, series, & then the Cubs come in.....  A great week at the FENS  !! thumb_u

Wrong Bill....it will only be a great week at the Fens if the Red Sox win both series.  Winning is all that counts.  Moral victories, close and almost dramatic comebacks stink like a sewer at high tide. WINNING AND ONLY WINNING COUNTS, and it high time the Red Sox either barf or get away from the sink.  I could have used a different slogan but you get the picture.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 24, 2017, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on April 24, 2017, 08:22:12 AM
Sox may well be without Pedey for the NYY series.Panda also will probably miss the series although that is good news .Hernandez who went 4-9 against the Os and Ruthledge will most likely share 3rd base duties if Panda can`t play.
A side note, Swihart having problems with the bat at AAA hitting .189.

If Swihart is hitting shitty because he was sent down and is sulking, well the hell with him.  Someone has to tell him to saddle up and fly right and stop feeling sorry for yourself.  Another prime example of a prospect getting around Farrell and winding becoming a meely mouth candy ass.  Get the hell in there Blake and stop making excuses.  You need to hit and so far you haven't done anything but shit the bed and we've enough Lars Anderson types to last a lifetime in Boston.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 24, 2017, 08:00:16 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on April 24, 2017, 03:41:26 PM
Pedey is day to day and Panda will get MRI tomorrow.

And we still haven't been able to put our first string lineup out there yet.  When the hell is everyone going to tape up, gut it up and the hell out there and play.  As Alvin Dark once told one of his players back in the early 60's......YOU CAN PLAY AS LONG AS YOU CAN TOLERATE THE PAIN.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 25, 2017, 12:25:23 PM
   The RAIN man might have something to say about tonight's game.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 25, 2017, 12:42:26 PM
Red Sox-Yankees pitching matchups

Peter Abraham

Here are the pitching matchups for the Yankees-Red Sox series at Fenway Park.

Tuesday: RHP Rick Porcello (1-2, 5.32) vs. RHP Luis Severino (1-1, 4.05), 7:10 p.m., NESN, YES, MLB Network.

Wednesday: LHP Chris Sale (1-1, 0.91) vs. RHP Masahiro Tanaka (2-1, 6.00), 7:10 p.m., NESN, YES, ESPN


Thursday: LHP Drew Pomeranz (1-1, 4.60) vs. LHP CC Sabathia (2-1, 2.70), 7:10 p.m., NESN, YES, MLB Network.

Peter Abraham can be reached at pabraham@globe.com. Follow him on Twitter @PeteAbe.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2017/04/25/red-sox-yankees-pitching-matchups/roOSyNIyYbxtrnDxn1rhJP/story.html
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 25, 2017, 01:01:12 PM

Pablo Sandoval placed on 10-day DL. Pedey still day to day.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 25, 2017, 01:14:32 PM
Looks like the weather Gods are not going to cooperate for the 1st 2 games of the Yanks series.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 25, 2017, 01:30:52 PM
Matt Barnes suspended four games IMO you throw at the head a RP should get 10 days and a SP should get 3 games not 3 days
We are talking serious and possibly fatal injuries .MLB has to get serious about head shots. I will never forget  August 18, 1967, the  Sox were playing the  Angels at Fenway Park. Conigliaro, batting against Jack Hamilton California Angels at Fenway Park.  Tony C got hit on the left cheekbone and an extremely promising career was finished. 
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 25, 2017, 01:39:08 PM
 Sox activate INF Josh Rutledge from Double-A Portland.Should platoon with Hernandez at 3rd.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 25, 2017, 02:11:46 PM
Game postponed, to be made up 7/16
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 25, 2017, 02:14:18 PM
Not looking to good for tomorrow's game either.Wet next few days here in Mass.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 25, 2017, 02:18:37 PM
We had rain for the last 2 1/2 days in Charlotte and it was like a river heading your way.  We had about 5 inches here, 8 up in Raleigh, so good luck!

The day off can only help Pedey, he can rest and not miss a game.

Sandoval to the DL is a nice holy intervention.  Too bad we don't have someone solid to replace him with but those guys will get the job done.

I'm thinking that they ought to do for Sale what they did for Pedro - have a poll as to how many hits, runs and K's he'd get.  In Sale's case it would be how many hits and runs the Sox get. 
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 25, 2017, 02:24:31 PM
The rainout make-up day will be a Sunday day-night twin bill.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 25, 2017, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: longgame on April 25, 2017, 02:18:37 PM
We had rain for the last 2 1/2 days in Charlotte and it was like a river heading your way.  We had about 5 inches here, 8 up in Raleigh, so good luck!

The day off can only help Pedey, he can rest and not miss a game.

Sandoval to the DL is a nice holy intervention.  Too bad we don't have someone solid to replace him with but those guys will get the job done.

I'm thinking that they ought to do for Sale what they did for Pedro - have a poll as to how many hits, runs and K's he'd get.  In Sale's case it would be how many hits and runs the Sox get.

What????? Our rich farm system everyone talks about and the best we can do is Hernandez and Rutledge.  Very sad we don't have anyone down there that we have to depend on two stiffs like H and R .
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 25, 2017, 04:10:15 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on April 25, 2017, 02:24:31 PM
The rainout make-up day will be a Sunday day-night twin bill.

I'm hearing rumors tomorrow's game might be washed out and gone buy the boards too.  What do you hear?
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 25, 2017, 07:01:00 PM
Been hearing that, too, Fred. Big storm. It'll give them time to rest up, though. Hernandez and Rutledge must be cursing the weather gods.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 26, 2017, 08:05:06 AM
Good news....Pedey expected to play tonight.
Weather a bit better .Game time 30% chance rain.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 26, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
Quote from: Rob from Mass on April 26, 2017, 08:05:06 AM
Good news....Pedey expected to play tonight.
Weather a bit better .Game time 30% chance rain.
Great, will be watching on the M L B station....... Go SOX & NAVY too !!!
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 26, 2017, 12:40:02 PM
If they are able to play tonight my advice to the team is to man up and get in there and show that you're a competitive club with designs on a solid year and not a bunch of leaderless, rudderless candy asses that fold at the first sign of pressure.  The Yanks have re-tooled with a combination of some good young players of their own along with some veteran leadership and are playing better than we are now.  It is NOT the time to fold like a tent in front of our own fans tonight and tomorrow.  We're either a pack of hungry wolves ready to tear into our foes or a meely mouthed bunch of half-ass losers who will once again disgrace our fans.  Time to saddle up and go out there and take care of the New Yorkers.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 26, 2017, 01:42:42 PM
If the first Yankees-Sox game of the year, with an extra day off before to sit on it, isn't enough to get these guys fired up, they should be playing in Tampa! 
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 26, 2017, 02:05:22 PM
Pedey is out, just saw it tweeted by Alex Speier.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 26, 2017, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: longgame on April 26, 2017, 02:05:22 PM
Pedey is out, just saw it tweeted by Alex Speier.

Oh what the hell is the matter with him.  Day to day my ass.  This guy is going to be meeliy mouthing it for the next month.  Tape it up damn it and get your ass in the lineup.  Once again Farrell's pablum has affected another one of our players.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 26, 2017, 05:33:11 PM
DUSTIN PEDROIA EXPLAINS WHY HE’S NOT IN THE LINEUP AGAINST THE YANKEES

Rob Bradford

It was the surprise of the day.

When John Farrell went on the Dale, Holley & Keefe Show and said Dustin Pedroia wouldn’t be in the starting lineup, it caught most by surprise. Farrell had just said the day before he would have put the second baseman in the batting order Tuesday if the game wasn’t postponed.

So what happened? Pedroia explained …

“I did some activities yesterday, kind of tested it out a little bit. Just a little sore,” the second baseman told WEEI.com regarding his surgically-repaired left knee, which was sprained when Baltimore’s Manny Machdo slid into it Friday night. “They’re just going to give me one more day and I’ll be in there.”

Considering the knee was the one Pedroia had to rehab all offseason, it seemed fair to consider that this might be a concern going forward. But the 33 year old downplayed any potential lasting effects.

“I didn’t tear any ligaments or anything,” Pedroia said. “I’m hoping to get out there tomorrow and be fine. I did a lot of stuff today to test it and be ready. I’ve played through a lot worse. I can’t hurt myself by being out there.”

“Well, when Dr. [Peter] Asnis examined him, felt like there was still some strong stability in the knee,” Farrell said. “Recognizing there was still some swelling in the ankle and somewhat around the knee area. Given the impact that took place, we didn’t think this was going to be completely gone in a matter of two or three days either.”

In Pedroia’s place in the lineup for the series opener is once again Marco Hernandez.

Another backup infielder who might be filling in if not for his own ailment is Brock Holt, who reported that his vertigo had improved dramatically and was expecting to go on a rehab assignment in the coming days.

http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2017/04/26/dustin-pedroia-explains-why-hes-not-in-the-lineup-against-the-yankees/
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 26, 2017, 05:34:27 PM
Maybe it should have rained again today...just sayin.
Pedey may be with us tomorrow.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 26, 2017, 06:34:31 PM
Wouldn't be a Red Sox game if they weren't in an early hole.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on April 26, 2017, 07:41:52 PM
Sox continue the tradition of scoring and hitting nothing into 5 innings. Keep doing that and Porcello can only do so much
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 26, 2017, 07:47:46 PM
Sox keeping up their lackluster ways, polishing it off with some sloppy defense.  It's hard to watch these guys.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 26, 2017, 08:56:43 PM
Heading for their third shutout in 6 games. Pathetic.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 26, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
Yankees gifted the Sox a run. They had Benintendi dead to rights at home and went to 1st for the out instead.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 26, 2017, 09:19:20 PM
DP set up now. JBJ needs to go deep. Keep it out of the infield.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 26, 2017, 09:21:39 PM
JBJ K's. Rutledge is 0-3. This isn't going to end happily.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on April 26, 2017, 09:22:02 PM
Sit down JBJ!
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on April 26, 2017, 09:23:28 PM
Of course it comes down to Rutledge  ::)
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 26, 2017, 09:27:15 PM
Rutledge almost brought it home, but no such luck.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: ipot on April 26, 2017, 09:28:28 PM
Chapman adds insult to injury by doing a Kimbrel impression just to make fun of the fans. :losers
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on April 26, 2017, 09:29:28 PM
Need to tell JBJ to swing at the good pitches. He had 2 then swung at crap. Was a terrible at bat by him.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on April 26, 2017, 09:48:49 PM
This team looks and plays like the "Walking Dead."  Good pitching once again is being undone by brain dead defense and terrible at bats at the plate.  I thought this Machado incident would inject some life in this lackluster ball club.  I don't care what the "Official" word is coming out of the clubhouse but I smell something rotten on Yawkey Way.  They look terrible at the plate and I don't mean that they aren't hitting.  It is worse than that.  These guys are having terrible at bats. 
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 26, 2017, 09:54:31 PM
You aren't surprised by tonight's results, are you?  I'm not, not at all.  I've said all along we have a gutless bunch of chokers who can't man up when things get rough.  No leadership and there is once again Pedroia begging out because he has a little twinge in his calf, the cowardly twirp.  And why the hell is Leon still in the lineup.  He is down below the Mendoza line while Vazquez is hitting in the 400's.  I'm telling you all now that this team is headed into Shitpile Boulevard if this keeps up and it will as long as they have that worthless bastard managing them and babying those underachieving A-holes.  For the record, I didn't watch the game after the third inning because I knew what was going to happen.  Dombrowski had better wake the ef up because this season is slowly running away from us.  One thing he better do is tell Farrell to stop feeding his players pablum and get Pedroia back in that @#$%&?! lineup tomorrow.  Of course,  there is the problem of getting Sale some runs, which this pathetic bunch of bums never seem able to do.  I am totally disgusted with these pukes and the season is only 20 games old.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 26, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 26, 2017, 09:48:49 PM
This team looks and plays like the "Walking Dead."  Good pitching once again is being undone by brain dead defense and terrible at bats at the plate.  I thought this Machado incident would inject some life in this lackluster ball club.  I don't care what the "Official" word is coming out of the clubhouse but I smell something rotten on Yawkey Way.  They look terrible at the plate and I don't mean that they aren't hitting.  It is worse than that.  These guys are having terrible at bats.

You know as well as I do what the problem is.  HInt---look at the Arizona "D" Backs.  That could have been us with a young, aggressive and fighting manager instead of the pathetic piece of crap we currently have.  Oh yes, the players are happy because Farrell babies the shit out of them and when they have to man up and beat down they fold like a tent.  Nothing seems to get to these guys, they have no heart, no guts and no balls.  They say it all starts at the top and you know what we have up there leading us in the dugout, and I don't give a hoot in hell about what the "Official" word that is coming out of the clubhouse.  This team is dead from the beck down and brainless from the neck up.  And somebody had better help Jackie.  He looks like he might in for one of his long droughts.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 27, 2017, 02:57:02 AM
This team is not gelling ATM, nor will it in my opinion.
Tom Werner must be unhappy as he stated a while back
that he doesn't mind spending the money, but bring us
a WINNER.
Not going to happen this season. sigh
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Muggah on April 27, 2017, 03:33:24 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on April 26, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 26, 2017, 09:48:49 PM
This team looks and plays like the "Walking Dead."  Good pitching once again is being undone by brain dead defense and terrible at bats at the plate.  I thought this Machado incident would inject some life in this lackluster ball club.  I don't care what the "Official" word is coming out of the clubhouse but I smell something rotten on Yawkey Way.  They look terrible at the plate and I don't mean that they aren't hitting.  It is worse than that.  These guys are having terrible at bats.

You know as well as I do what the problem is.  HInt---look at the Arizona "D" Backs.  That could have been us with a young, aggressive and fighting manager instead of the pathetic piece of crap we currently have.  Oh yes, the players are happy because Farrell babies the shit out of them and when they have to man up and beat down they fold like a tent.  Nothing seems to get to these guys, they have no heart, no guts and no balls.  They say it all starts at the top and you know what we have up there leading us in the dugout, and I don't give a hoot in hell about what the "Official" word that is coming out of the clubhouse.  This team is dead from the beck down and brainless from the neck up.  And somebody had better help Jackie.  He looks like he might in for one of his long droughts.

I don't recall an incident being handled as poorly as Pedroia and management handled this recent flap with Machado and the O's. And if this is what Dombrowski calls 'leadership,' then we're in for a very bumpy ride.

Again, the talent is obviously there---but until a firebrand leader who is going to demand accountability from this bunch arrives on the scene, nothing much is going to change. This team will continue to tread water.

And for godsakes where the hell is Blake Swihart? Why in blazes are we still sticking with Leon?
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 27, 2017, 06:25:31 AM
Maybe Farrell is just using players who are definitely breathing, no matter how difficult it may be to inhale.
There has to be a scale they follow???? rofl
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on April 27, 2017, 07:17:29 AM
It isn't just a lack of leadership. This team is poorly constructed.  Hanley is out of place at DH.  He needs to be on the field to effective but the is no place to put him.  Bogaerts is showing his limitations at short. Why does he still have that hiccup when he throws to first. That should have been drilled out of him long ago. He will continue to make bad throws to first because he ends up rushing his throws.  And Sandoval is better suited to being third base not playing it.
If the Sox don't make some real changes this is shaping up to one of the most frustrating of seasons.
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 27, 2017, 08:33:14 AM
It's pretty obvious that this team just isn't the same without Big Papi.  They can go at everyone and unless everyone is hot (they're not) there's not much of a chance.  Betts doesn't look close to his near-MVP performance last year.  Bradley just can't swing at good pitches.  Bogey remains an average at best fielder.  They don't have a 3B, the 2B is more worried about guys on other teams liking him.  I love Benitendi but he's a kid and can't lay much on him.  Moreland is a suprising upside.  As someone else said, Hanley doesn't seem to take to the DH role for whatever reason.  The pitching is up and down but since they don't hit it doesn't really matter. 

I imagine we're going to hear a lot of "Gotta tip your cap to the opposing pitcher" this year.  The real shame is that this is shaping up to be a long season, even longer with listening to Dave O'Brien.  I had to watch ESPN after he made a comment about the Marlins sale and didn't know the deal had been approved.  He "thought" Derek Jeter would be involved. I mean you have nothing to do but sit around and talk baseball all day and you didn't know this?  Between what he doesn't know, what he acts like he knows after Jerry says it, or when he repeats the same thing for games on end, he's really difficult to listen to - plus he doesn't have a great voice.

I can see not watching a lot of ball this summer if things continue - bad baseball and a bad broadcast?
Title: Re: GAME #20, NY YANKEES AT BOSTON RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 27, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
It looks like the whole ensemble sucks to the max in Boston.  If it wasn't for retiring Papi's number on June 23 I would cancel my trip right now.  I still might.  This is one shitty team we have guys and gals, and I'll bet Pablum Pedroia will sit out tonight again because his little calf might still have a little soreness, the poor candy ass baby.  This is proof positive of how Farrell has turned what could be a tough bunch of young players into a nursery.  Fire that bastard before the whole season rots away.  Werner says give me a champion....well dumbass, you ain't gonna get one with pet of yours managing this  team.....not now, not ever.