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Title: Where did everyone go?
Post by: elktonnick on March 15, 2023, 10:23:02 AM
The Sox Spring Training record has come down to earth.  Where have all the posters gone?
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: elktonnick on March 15, 2023, 05:05:26 PM
Sox won game.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: SeaBeachFred on March 15, 2023, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on March 15, 2023, 05:05:26 PM
Sox won game.

Hey Elk, I had a helluva time logging on today and just got in.  The guys are still around but some of the "boys of summer" don't log on until the season is underway.  So far the team has performed pretty well.  We aren't as good as we showed in the first eight or nine games, nor as inept as the last four or five.  I'm waiting for our guys to get back from the WBC and get some of our wounded back to see where we really are.  Hope all is well with you and your ultra rabid better half.  If I was Chaim Bloom, though, I wouldn't be asking your wife for a kind word.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: elktonnick on March 15, 2023, 07:34:34 PM
Lisa, my wife, sends her regards Fred.  Actually she is generally irritated with Cora as well as Bloom.   Like you she can not stand cheaters.
We are currently in Florida for spring training and golf.  We saw Sale pitch who looked good.  Excellent command and he looked effortless.  We have three more games.  I do not expect anything until the WBC is done
  Then they should get serious.
Kennedy says ticket sales are up over last year.  You can not prove that by us.  Other than the game against the Yankees there are plenty of empty seats at every game
  We sat behind home plate the other day. iono
We never would have gotten those seats in the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: MongoLikeSox on March 16, 2023, 06:47:27 AM
I'm in my normal ST mode, which is where I check in on the news once a day at the most. I did watch a couple innings of the 'Sox-PR game. It's my break before the season, which was sorely needed after the past season and off-season.

I've also been watching the Hurricanes and Celtics after a decades' hiatus from basketball and a 10-15 year break from Hockey.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: longgame on March 16, 2023, 09:14:06 AM
I've had trouble logging in some times too but usually check in. 

Elk, I just mentioned on another thread that there look to be a lot of empty seats down there and I'm sure that will translate to Fenway.  I've caught a few innings here and there of WBC and watched most of the PR vs DR game last night.  I'm always partial to PR due to my late wife and time spent living there.

Devers didn't do much in the WBC but will be back with the team soon since they were eliminated. 

Mongo, the Canes have been great to watch this season, but that Svechnikov injury could be costly.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: SeaBeachFred on March 16, 2023, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on March 15, 2023, 07:34:34 PM
Lisa, my wife, sends her regards Fred.  Actually she is generally irritated with Cora as well as Bloom.   Like you she can not stand cheaters.
We are currently in Florida for spring training and golf.  We saw Sale pitch who looked good.  Excellent command and he looked effortless.  We have three more games.  I do not expect anything until the WBC is done
  Then they should get serious.
Kennedy says ticket sales are up over last year.  You can not prove that by us.  Other than the game against the Yankees there are plenty of empty seats at every game
  We sat behind home plate the other day. iono
We never would have gotten those seats in the last 20 years.

Well Elk (and Lisa), you folks have been at the games at Fort Myers and you have your own senses and eyes to give you an inkling of what we might expect this season.  Any thoughts from your end.  Do we even have a shot at catching lightning in a bottle and challenge for a WC this season?
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: elktonnick on March 16, 2023, 06:04:54 PM
Fred as my wife says "Even a blind squirrel gets an acorn now and then."

From what I have seen no team is playing its full rosters yet. So one gets no sense of what the team is capable of yet.  I do not think we will get any real inkling until the end of next week.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: MongoLikeSox on March 17, 2023, 07:33:29 AM
We do get to see the pitchers progress a little bit, but I do that via the box scores. No radar guns in ST telecasts just add an extra incentive to not watch. 

Quote from: longgame on March 16, 2023, 09:14:06 AM
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Mongo, the Canes have been great to watch this season, but that Svechnikov injury could be costly.
Indeed! A major ouch.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: elktonnick on March 17, 2023, 04:17:15 PM
Fred if today's game against the Braves is any indication, it is going to be a long frustrating summer in Boston.
My takeaways are: Dalbec's lack of range makes him anything but an emergency shortstop unlikely.  Casas may be cocky but I see nothing to suggest he is anything but a lefthanded hitting version of Bobby Dalbec.  Dalbec may be a better clubhouse fit personality wise.  Tapia has a cannon for an arm but is as inaccurate as my golf drives.  Reese McGuire does not have Christian Vazquez's arm behind the plate.
Kaleb Ort has no business on a major league roster.   Brasier is still Brasier.  80 wins is a likely 2023 win total.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: SeaBeachFred on March 17, 2023, 04:45:45 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on March 17, 2023, 04:17:15 PM
Fred if today's game against the Braves is any indication, it is going to be a long frustrating summer in Boston.
My takeaways are: Dalbec's lack of range makes him anything but an emergency shortstop unlikely.  Casas may be cocky but I see nothing to suggest he is anything but a lefthanded hitting version of Bobby Dalbec.  Dalbec may be a better clubhouse fit personality wise.  Tapia has a cannon for an arm but is as inaccurate as my golf drives.  Reese McGuire does not have Christian Vazquez's arm behind the plate.
Kaleb Ort has no business on a major league roster.   Brasier is still Brasier.  80 wins is a likely 2023 win total.

The Braves batting practice at our pitchers expense today with five homers and Ort and Brasier still can't make their pitches move except into hungry  enemy bats  We have to be patient with Casas though----at least in my opinion.  The guy does project as a solid power hitting prospect and since this will be a season of retooling what  have we got to lose Elk?  Tapia shows some promise and might be worth a look while Mcguire can hit ok and we do have a couple of catchers we might give a shot to.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: elktonnick on March 17, 2023, 04:52:18 PM
We have no choice but to be patient with Casas.  But the kid needs a Don Baylor or David Ortiz type to keep him in line.  That being said I do not expect great things from Casas.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: elktonnick on March 20, 2023, 09:49:44 PM
Wow what a great WBC game between Mexico and Japan.  Both Red Sox players Verdugo and Yoshida made huge contributions to their teams.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: longgame on March 21, 2023, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on March 20, 2023, 09:49:44 PM
Wow what a great WBC game between Mexico and Japan.  Both Red Sox players Verdugo and Yoshida made huge contributions to their teams.

Yoshida has torn it up in the WBC, although I don't think Japan faced much competitition until yesterday.  But what a finish last night with a walk off HR!  I'm excited about tonight's game.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on March 21, 2023, 09:50:50 AM
Good for Yoshida ane he's shown he has some pop in his bat.  Also hope that Nootbar (Cards) and Ohtani make that a big game tonight.  Also good for the Sox that Yoshida is playing that game at Miami.  It's a short hop, skip and jump over to Fort Myers.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: longgame on March 21, 2023, 01:19:57 PM
They'll need that pop.  The Orioles are pounding Sale who gave up 9 hits, 6ER, 2 HRs in 4 IP.
Title: Re: Roster Moves
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on March 29, 2023, 07:55:44 AM
From the bits and bites of information coming in on the Sox - there ain't much - it looks like Tapia and Ort have made the final roster cuts and have made the team.  Gone to AAA are Dalbec, Duran and Alfaro.  I thought sending Alfaro down would give him an out option to explore other rosters. 

This pretty much says there are were no meaningful trades this spring, and any late changes will be internal - like adding another BP guy like Sherriff (LH) to shore up the pen with those going on IL.  You guys probably know more than what the Boston press has up today.
Title: Re: Roster Moves
Post by: MongoLikeSox on March 29, 2023, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on March 29, 2023, 07:55:44 AM
From the bits and bites of information coming in on the Sox - there ain't much - it looks like Tapia and Ort have made the final roster cuts and have made the team.  Gone to AAA are Dalbec, Duran and Alfaro.  I thought sending Alfaro down would give him an out option to explore other rosters. 

This pretty much says there are were no meaningful trades this spring, and any late changes will be internal - like adding another BP guy like Sherriff (LH) to shore up the pen with those going on IL.  You guys probably know more than what the Boston press has up today.
Nobody wanted Alfaro, despite the bat. He even cleared Waivers. Renewed emphasis on catcher defense due to the prospects of base stealing becoming a thing again.

Tapia, Goodrum and Allen all had various stipulations for making the roster or being free to opt out. They still do, too, to some extent. I forget the particulars, but they are all different, and some have multiple dates in which they can opt out.
Title: Re: Roster Moves
Post by: SeaBeachFred on March 29, 2023, 05:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on March 29, 2023, 07:55:44 AM
From the bits and bites of information coming in on the Sox - there ain't much - it looks like Tapia and Ort have made the final roster cuts and have made the team.  Gone to AAA are Dalbec, Duran and Alfaro.  I thought sending Alfaro down would give him an out option to explore other rosters. 

This pretty much says there are were no meaningful trades this spring, and any late changes will be internal - like adding another BP guy like Sherriff (LH) to shore up the pen with those going on IL.  You guys probably know more than what the Boston press has up today.

Tapia might be a decent defensive replacement as an outfielder but little else.  His hitting is suspect and he doesn't look like he can be much else for us..  As for Ort, someone loves the guy because this guy is total crap personified.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: Pumpsie Green on April 13, 2023, 10:53:11 AM
Helluva team we have this year. I think that maybe 65 wins tops. If its not competitive next year its time to clean house and for Henry to sell the team.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: longgame on April 13, 2023, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Pumpsie Green on April 13, 2023, 10:53:11 AM
Helluva team we have this year. I think that maybe 65 wins tops. If its not competitive next year its time to clean house and for Henry to sell the team.

Someone needs to play "Major League" for them.  We just need Wild Thing!
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: MongoLikeSox on April 13, 2023, 11:15:10 AM
Quote from: longgame on April 13, 2023, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Pumpsie Green on April 13, 2023, 10:53:11 AM
Helluva team we have this year. I think that maybe 65 wins tops. If its not competitive next year its time to clean house and for Henry to sell the team.

Someone needs to play "Major League" for them.  We just need Wild Thing!
We actually have him in Worcester. I saw it myself on NESN2. Bryan Mata hit 4 batters in the span of 5 ABs. 
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 13, 2023, 12:03:19 PM
Quote from: Pumpsie Green on April 13, 2023, 10:53:11 AM
Helluva team we have this year. I think that maybe 65 wins tops. If its not competitive next year its time to clean house and for Henry to sell the team.

That would be too late Pumpsie.  I have insisted since the end of last season that no progress can be made until Manager Alex the Cheater Cora and usless BO Director Jaime Bloom are fired and it must be done before we get swept by both TB and the Angels this weekend..  Nothing positive can come from our team's hope for the future until these two bums are cashiered.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on April 13, 2023, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on April 13, 2023, 12:03:19 PM
Quote from: Pumpsie Green on April 13, 2023, 10:53:11 AM
Helluva team we have this year. I think that maybe 65 wins tops. If its not competitive next year its time to clean house and for Henry to sell the team.

That would be too late Pumpsie.  I have insisted since the end of last season that no progress can be made until Manager Alex the Cheater Cora and usless BO Director Jaime Bloom are fired and it must be done before we get swept by both TB and the Angels this weekend..  Nothing positive can come from our team's hope for the future until these two bums are cashiered.

Agree with that, Fred.  Bloom must not be allowed to conduct another draft this year or take part in any July deadline trades like the salary dump he did last year.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: MongoLikeSox on April 15, 2023, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 13, 2023, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on April 13, 2023, 12:03:19 PM
Quote from: Pumpsie Green on April 13, 2023, 10:53:11 AM
Helluva team we have this year. I think that maybe 65 wins tops. If its not competitive next year its time to clean house and for Henry to sell the team.

That would be too late Pumpsie.  I have insisted since the end of last season that no progress can be made until Manager Alex the Cheater Cora and usless BO Director Jaime Bloom are fired and it must be done before we get swept by both TB and the Angels this weekend..  Nothing positive can come from our team's hope for the future until these two bums are cashiered.

Agree with that, Fred.  Bloom must not be allowed to conduct another draft this year or take part in any July deadline trades like the salary dump he did last year.
Folks, I agree with that. I've been dreading this years' deadline for a few weeks now.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: zenjak on April 30, 2023, 02:23:13 AM
Hello all. It's been a long time since I've logged in. Not a lack of interest, just so many things in life (no disasters). Per my better half's and kids' requests, I'm in a job where I don't travel (still long hours at a plant that runs 24/7), so I don't get to see live baseball coast-to-coast anymore. But that's better than me coming home only to have the family ask when I'm leaving again.

So, I'll try to be around more.
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: MongoLikeSox on April 30, 2023, 06:50:50 AM
Welcome back! It's amazing what a job switch from a family-invasive job to a more family-friendly job can do for home life. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Where did everyone go?
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 30, 2023, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: zenjak on April 30, 2023, 02:23:13 AM
Hello all. It's been a long time since I've logged in. Not a lack of interest, just so many things in life (no disasters). Per my better half's and kids' requests, I'm in a job where I don't travel (still long hours at a plant that runs 24/7), so I don't get to see live baseball coast-to-coast anymore. But that's better than me coming home only to have the family ask when I'm leaving again.

So, I'll try to be around more.

I wondered what happened to you Zen.  Good to have you back and try and keep up with us.  Still remember the game we took in together in San Diego about 20 years ago.  Glad all is well.