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Red Sox
Chris Sale (L)
1. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
2. Mookie Betts (R) RF
3. Mitch Moreland (L) 1B
4. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
5. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
6. Michael Chavis (R) 2B
7. Steve Pearce (R) DH
8. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
9. Christian Vazquez (R) C
Rays
Tyler Glasnow (R)
1. Yandy Diaz (R) 1B
2. Tommy Pham (R) LF
3. Daniel Robertson (R) 2B
4. Avisail Garcia (R) DH
5. Mike Zunino (R) C
6. Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF
7. Guillermo Heredia (R) RF
8. Willy Adames (R) SS
9. Christian Arroyo (R) 3B
Gametime Temp: 56°F
Chance of Precip: 6%
Continued back miseries for JD, yikes.
As DAD would say, "SON, its later than you think" !!! BIG GAME TODAY !! iono iono iono iono
Quote from: Bill-806 on April 28, 2019, 11:13:16 AM
As DAD would say, "SON, its later than you think" !!! BIG GAME TODAY !! iono iono iono iono
Yes, time's a wastin'. My rough math says we need to go .625 ball the rest of the way to win 95. Strangely April games DO count as much as Sept. sigh
Remember they finished a cool .667 last year so the numbers about what they have to do aren't too intimidating. If they want to win, they're going to have to play to that level at some point, no matter how well or poorly they started. What concerns me is that they don't seem to be very resilient. JD goes down, they can't score. Plus with Leon on the bench they had nobody to hit in that game yesterday either. The Yankees on the other hand are missing every single player that was expected to contribute and they are on a tear.
It all comes back to pitching for me. The bullpen has sucked as we know it would. No improvements made to a pen that lost it's arguably two best arms, even though bringing back Kimbrel or Kelly weren't good options, there were other options out there. Then you do stuff like sign Sale and Eovaldi to long deals only to find out that Sale looks more and more like he may never be the same guy (he hasn't been in nearly a year now) and Eovaldi has the same surgery he had last year. Someone pointed out the pitching coach situation the other day and I think that would be a good start. The Sox have to figure out why they pay guys so much only to see them turn to crap. Look at Price, it took him a few years to become who he was supposed to be and had been before he came here.
This team needs to find a way to get it going, they're not in danger of falling out, but they're in danger of settling into mediocrity.
Speaking of mediocrity, Sale gets them in a hole right off the bat, so to speak.
Quote from: markj on April 28, 2019, 12:31:45 PM
Speaking of mediocrity, Sale gets them in a hole right off the bat, so to speak.
Eovaldi beat him to the DL, they're in a real bind now as I'm sure they have to put Sale on the DL just so he can save face at this point. It's the pro equivalent of falling flat on your face and standing up and looking around in an attempt to blame someone or something else. Send Sale to the DL and sign Keuchel.
Not sure why Sale was signed to a 5 year extension when he was terrible last August & September? We'll end up MANAGING his pitching it seems like for the duration. I thought there was something physically wrong with him last fall and nothing has changed my mind.
Time to shake up that lineup ?? Looks to COMFORTABLE ??? Time to hit away from the shift ?? Ya know, "hit it where they ain't" ????? JBJ looks lost ??? iono iono iono
Quote from: Schloicka on April 28, 2019, 12:55:59 PM
Not sure why Sale was signed to a 5 year extension when he was terrible last August & September? We'll end up MANAGING his pitching it seems like for the duration. I thought there was something physically wrong with him last fall and nothing has changed my mind.
I said that from the day they did the stupid deal. He also faded during the last 2 months of 17 but not as bad as 18. I f they had in their mind to sign him why not wait at least a few months into the season. They jumped on the Eovaldi 2 month bandwagon and how did that turn out. If they have no intention o resigning Mookie best thing is to see what haul he can bring in. Sounds silly but getting nothing for him leaving in just as dumb.
If the deal is 3-4 years 100-150 mil the Sox IMO made a mistake. With his slinging motion, he can breakdown any moment on the season as was seen with his 41 ip the last 2 months and the PO in 2018 This is what I said in March.
CHAVIS looking good ……. Devers, JBJ, TRADE BAIT ????? Devers GLOVE is killing us & JBJ looks lost at plate ?? BTW, Get some early runs and make it easier for your pitchers …... iono iono iono iono
Sale pitched a OK game. Lot of pitches. Error hurt him big time.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 28, 2019, 11:45:43 AM
Quote from: Bill-806 on April 28, 2019, 11:13:16 AM
As DAD would say, "SON, its later than you think" !!! BIG GAME TODAY !! iono iono iono iono
Yes, time's a wastin'. My rough math says we need to go .625 ball the rest of the way to win 95. Strangely April games DO count as much as Sept. sigh
79-55 is what they need just to get to 90 wins. Unless a DRASTIC turnaround its not going to happen.
Again today, looks like we were SLEEPWALKING iono iono iono iono iono
Sale wasn't the,primary culprit in today's loss. It was and is the team's hitting or lack thereof. I don't care how well you pitch or not, you aren't going to win many games scoring only two runs. Devers still has not figured it out defensively. I agree that these guys are too comfortable. Things need a good shaking up.
For me it all comes back to spring training, Cora simply did not instill in this team the ingredients necessary to have a winning attitude. I am old enough to remember Red Auerbach and the string of 11 out of 13 titles. Auerbach never approached the year after winning the way Cora did this one. The seeds for this debacle were sown in February and early March.
They need a spark to this lineup. I thought it would be Chavis, who left the yard again but I guess they're all just okay with being shown up by the rookie, as long as he keeps making defensive mistakes. Time for a trade.
Quote from: longgame on April 29, 2019, 07:54:35 AM
They need a spark to this lineup. I thought it would be Chavis, who left the yard again but I guess they're all just okay with being shown up by the rookie, as long as he keeps making defensive mistakes. Time for a trade.
A trade is one of the few option left to shake up this lineup. Would you go for a collection of AA/AAA or a JBJ, a Moreland, and throw in a AAA? Rays got a great deal with the Pirates for Glasnow, of course we need a bat.
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Get rid of Bradley once and for all. Make Raffy the DH until JD comes back and get Pearce in the lineup and keep him there. He is not going to hit for us if he is constantly being jerked around by Cora in and out of the lineup. That is for a start.
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on April 29, 2019, 08:10:23 AM
Quote from: longgame on April 29, 2019, 07:54:35 AM
They need a spark to this lineup. I thought it would be Chavis, who left the yard again but I guess they're all just okay with being shown up by the rookie, as long as he keeps making defensive mistakes. Time for a trade.
A trade is one of the few option left to shake up this lineup. Would you go for a collection of AA/AAA or a JBJ, a Moreland, and throw in a AAA? Rays got a great deal with the Pirates for Glasnow, of course we need a bat.
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I wonder what they could get for JBJ. When he's on fire he's great. Maybe he needs to right coaching situation. I think he needs glasses. I'd go more for that letter option, you'd have to throw in someone worthwhile like Moreland but I think they can cover 1B - although Pearce has royally sucked too.
BTW, forgot to mention I think it was Workman who came in the other day and it was interesting, he got a couple of guys out and then couldn't get a pitch past anyone. It took me about 4 pitches to figure out he comes to rest a little higher on a breaking ball than on a fastball and I'm sure they picked up on it too. I'll be watching but he get his hands down around his belt when throwing the heater but keep them up just about at belly level on the breaking stuff.