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Title: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 02, 2017, 04:54:25 AM
PIRATES AT RED SOX

MONDAY, APRIL 3, 2017, 2:15 PM AT FENWAY PARK

TV:  NESN

PITTSBURGH  (0-0).....................................................................BOSTON (0-0)

PITTSBURGH:

GERRIT COLE, RHP, 0-0, -.-, ERA 0

Cole will make his first Opening Day start and first career appearance at Fenway Park. 
Cole battered through injuries last year and posted a 3.88 ERA in 21 starts but he
put together an excellent spring and seems poised to bounce back.

BOSTON:

RICK PORCELLO, RHP, 0-0, -.-, ERA 0

For the first time in his career, the sinkerballer will take the ball on Opening Day.  This
after winning the American League Cy Young Award last season.  Porcello can't wait
to get back to Fenway, where he went 13-1 with a 2.97 ERA last season.

Post-Papi Sox open season vs. Cutch, Bucs

Mark Feinsand

The calendar may read 2017 for the rest of us, but for the Red Sox, consider this to be the year 1 A.P. -- After Papi -- as Boston embarks on its first season in 15 years without David Ortiz beginning Monday at Fenway Park against the Pirates (2:05 p.m. ET).

This won't be the first Opening Day without Ortiz, who missed the first three weeks of the 2013 season with an Achilles injury, but unlike that season, the Red Sox won't be adding his thunderous bat to the lineup a few weeks later.

"We're very excited about the group that's here," said manager John Farrell, who is 3-1 in season openers with the Sox. "David's going to be missed; we know that. But when you look at the overall athleticism, you look at the overall depth to our lineup. There's a scenario, like Pablo Sandoval hitting in the seven-, eight-hole. A full year of Andrew Benintendi is going to be an exciting one, in and of itself. And the constant growth of the younger players -- [Xander] Bogaerts, [Mookie] Betts, Benintendi, Jackie Bradley Jr.

"One thing I think our fans have really grasped onto and identified with over the past couple of years is that this is a team that can score runs in many different ways. The athleticism allows us to run the bases more aggressively than maybe teams we had compared to a number of years ago. The overall depth and the young athletic approach that our guys have should be big."

Betts broke out with an MVP-caliber season last year, while Bradley and Bogaerts joined him on the American League All-Star team. Hanley Ramirez had a stellar season at the plate and the Red Sox have high hopes for top prospect Benintendi, not to mention the return of Sandoval, who showed up to camp in terrific shape after missing virtually all of 2016 with a shoulder injury.

Farrell said Sandoval is "playing with a chip on his shoulder" after the events surrounding his first two years in Boston, an attribute that could serve the Red Sox well in Year 3 of his five-year deal.

"He's had a resurgence in his own way and it's been great to see," Farrell said. "We talk about a reconditioned body. The energy which he's displayed, whether it's been on defense, whether it's been on running the bases and certainly the way he's swung the bat. The bat speed has returned, his at-bats against left-handed pitching have been more consistent than what we've had compared to the last couple of years."
The Pirates' longtime face of the franchise will still be in the lineup, albeit at a different position. Andrew McCutchen, who has started the past seven openers in center field and played all 1,175 of his career games at that spot, will make his debut in right field.
"He's hungry," manager Clint Hurdle said. "He's committed, as he always is. He's on a mission."

The move was not McCutchen's idea, as the Pirates decided their best defensive alignment was Starling Marte in center and McCutchen in right, with Gregory Polanco handling left. General manager Neal Huntington has stressed that the decision had less to do with McCutchen's ability to play center field than Marte's outfield prowess.

"What was amazing in the process as we were working through it and we made the decision, we walked through it with Andrew," Huntington said. "Gregory Polanco's first question was, 'How does Andrew feel about this?' Starling Marte's first question was, 'How does Andrew feel about this?' One of Andrew's first questions was, 'How do Starling and Gregory feel about this?'

"From the human side, it's not easy. Andrew McCutchen wants to play center field. If we didn't have Starling Marte, we're not making this move. We just think we have an exceptional center fielder from now on in Starling Marte and we believe our best outfield alignment, our most productive, our most efficient outfield alignment was the alignment that we put together."

So while some things might be different for these two teams, others remain the same. Dustin Pedroia will make his 11th consecutive Opening Day start for the Red Sox, and although his longtime teammate won't be there with him, the mission remains the same regardless of the cast of characters.

"Yeah, I don't look at it any differently than previous years," Pedroia said. "You show up to win every day. That's what we're going to try to do."

THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME

• This is the first time since 2010 that the Red Sox have opened the season at Fenway Park
and just their fourth opener at home since 1995.

• No Red Sox hitter has more than three career at-bats against Pirates starter Gerrit Cole,
who has held the seven hitters he's faced to a combined 5-for-19 (.263) with no extra-base hits.
This will be Cole's first Opening Day start.

• Red Sox Opening Day starter Rick Porcello has held Pirates hitters to a combined 6-for-46 (.130)
with a .401 OPS. John Jaso, who is 3-for-14 against Porcello, is the only Pirate with a home run against
the reigning AL Cy Young Award winner.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20170401221852704/post-papi-sox-open-season-vs-cutch-bucs/?game_pk=490108

Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 02, 2017, 05:59:00 AM
Pirates V Red Sox

Sox lineup:

Pedroia 2B
Benintendi LF
Betts RF
Ramirez DH
Moreland 1B
Bogaerts SS
Bradley Jr CF
Sandoval 3B
Leon C
Porcello RHP.

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Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 02, 2017, 08:58:38 AM
All set for an entertaining season... The kids, the kids, the kids !!!    PLAY BALL !!!!
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 02, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
Looking forward to the Opener tomorrow and hope that our team goes out there and plans a solid winning game.  Keep in mind a couple of things that should concern us when I say nothing is automatic this year for any team, something I've hinted at all Spring.  Today Yankee ace Mashiniro Tanaka got blistered for seven runs and right hits in two-and-a-third innings of work, and that guy is one of the top pitchers in the American League.  Over in the NL $64 million dollar closer Stan Melancon of the Giants came in to save his first game for the Orange and Black with a 5-4 lead, was ripped for four hits and two runs to send his team down to defeat.

The Red Sox had better go in there tomorrow with guns blazing with a determination and will to go along with it because nothing is guaranteed----and if we call on the bullpen they had better do their job.

PS--And to top it off the Cubs lost their opener tonight in St. Louis.  The Red Sox had better be prepared to play all out baseball tomorrow and that goes for Farrell in the dugout.....no bonehead moves.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 02, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
I agree Fred, fight, fight, fight.  No time to fool around as every game counts.  I'm looking forward
to a great year.  Unfortunately, I'm thinking; IS FARRELL READY FOR THE CHALLENGE.
thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: ipot on April 02, 2017, 11:26:02 PM
Let's get off to a strong start in April.  It almost always bodes well for October.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 03, 2017, 07:49:37 AM
Open  the gates !!!  I can smell the popcorn & hotdogs already !!    GO SOX & NAVY too !!!
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 03, 2017, 07:50:11 AM
Tanaka got pummeled by the powerful Rays after embarrassing big league mostly B TEAM rosters during ST allowing only 1 er in 24innings.Porcello, on the other hand, was pounded for 11 er in 14 innings by the same B team rosters.Hopefully, he can reverse that trend.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 03, 2017, 08:23:29 AM
The good news is the Yankees are already in last place!

I expect some good production from this offense.  They may have lost some pop with Ortiz going, but most of the guys in there are capable of hitting a ton of extra base hits and some good HR production, up and down the lineup.  I'm not too worried about our starters, but I'm very worried about the pen.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Bear on April 03, 2017, 08:57:06 AM
You're funny Ted.
I'm hoping we're in first place after today's game.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Bill-806 on April 03, 2017, 09:27:55 AM
   As DAD would say ...... "SON, the games that you  win in April & May, you won't have to win in September" !!! thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Muggah on April 03, 2017, 09:49:13 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on April 02, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
Looking forward to the Opener tomorrow and hope that our team goes out there and plans a solid winning game.  Keep in mind a couple of things that should concern us when I say nothing is automatic this year for any team, something I've hinted at all Spring.  Today Yankee ace Mashiniro Tanaka got blistered for seven runs and right hits in two-and-a-third innings of work, and that guy is one of the top pitchers in the American League.  Over in the NL $64 million dollar closer Stan Melancon of the Giants came in to save his first game for the Orange and Black with a 5-4 lead, was ripped for four hits and two runs to send his team down to defeat.

The Red Sox had better go in there tomorrow with guns blazing with a determination and will to go along with it because nothing is guaranteed----and if we call on the bullpen they had better do their job.

PS--And to top it off the Cubs lost their opener tonight in St. Louis.  The Red Sox had better be prepared to play all out baseball tomorrow and that goes for Farrell in the dugout.....no bonehead moves.


I have my hunches about this team and how it's going to perform, but for the sake of opening day I'm gonna tuck those all under my hat for the afternoon and just be thankful that MLB is back.

As for today---I want to see hustle, focus and a sense of urgency that IMO has been lacking much of ST. Our kids need to "bring it" today and that's going to go a long way towards easing the anxiety that has come with the past couple weeks and all these injuries.

And for crissakes, let's just hope to hell that Farrell isn't put in a spot where he can affect the out come today's opener. We all know how that'll work out.

Happy opening day, all!!
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 01:41:57 PM
Sox are right back at it with inning ending DPs. Some things never change. slap sigh

On the other hand, complaining about the DPs is better than no baseball at all, so... thumb_u thumb_u
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 01:43:07 PM
Panda still looks big, but not as bad as last year.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 02:29:35 PM
Sox starting to string together hits. Up 2-0 now.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 02:32:48 PM
Benintendi with a 3-run dinger. Sox up 5-0. Nice. thumb_u

All with 2 outs at that.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 03, 2017, 02:35:00 PM
Leon with a smart bunt against the shift a very key point in this game.Also threw out a guy in the 1st.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 03, 2017, 02:41:31 PM
I like it when they score runs in bunches like that. 

Anyone else trying to watch MLB.TV with their DirectTV subscription.  It seems the link to activate it is dead.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Schloicka on April 03, 2017, 02:46:50 PM
I'm watching free on the internet and sending it to the tv via hdmi cable.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 03, 2017, 02:53:11 PM
I got the FIRE TV STICK and it's fantastic and free.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 03:12:43 PM
Fine game for Porcello. Now we have Meatball Matt Barnes coming in with 2 on and 1 out. Need a quick DP here.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 03:17:52 PM
Barnes gives up a run and then blows the DP setup with a wild pitch. Oh boy.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 03:18:36 PM
Barnes loads the bases. On the bright side, the DP possibility is back.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 03:20:47 PM
Nice catch by Benintendi. Still another run in, but that catch might have saved one.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 03:23:49 PM
Out of it, but not before giving up 3 runs. 2 of those are Porcello's I believe.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: markj on April 03, 2017, 04:12:32 PM
Whew, good win, but closer than it needed to be. Business as usual for the Sox.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Rob from Mass on April 03, 2017, 04:18:32 PM
Thanks to Sandy`s clutch bunt Sox get the win
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on April 03, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Great win.  For those of us who worry about the Sox bullpen, Barnes did nothing to quiet those concerns.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Pumpsie Green on April 03, 2017, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 03, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Great win.  For those of us who worry about the Sox bullpen, Barnes did nothing to quiet those concerns.

Neither did Kimbrel.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Muggah on April 03, 2017, 06:56:07 PM
Quote from: Pumpsie Green on April 03, 2017, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 03, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Great win.  For those of us who worry about the Sox bullpen, Barnes did nothing to quiet those concerns.

Neither did Kimbrel.

That's right, Pumpsie. I'll take a W anyday---especially in the opener, but boy does our BP look shaky.

News flash, Dombrowski---start looking for a legitimate closer or we can kiss 2017 goodbye!
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: ipot on April 03, 2017, 06:58:05 PM
Quote from: Pumpsie Green on April 03, 2017, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 03, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Great win.  For those of us who worry about the Sox bullpen, Barnes did nothing to quiet those concerns.

Neither did Kimbrel.

Amen.  Was a fine game until Meatball turned into a save situation and Kimbrel picked up where he left off with the drama.  They should be selling rubber finger tips at Fenway games every time this guy pitches or we'll all lose more than fingernails.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 03, 2017, 09:02:55 PM
First the good news......WE WON!!!!!...and that has to trump everything else.  We hit into dp's, Panda looks like he has put half the pounds he lost back on and that meatball Barnes is still shit on rye when we need him to stand up and get the damn job done.  However, Leon played an All Star type game, Andrew hit that three run bomb and for six innings Porcello looked like a co-ace that he going to have to be in the early going.  Our bullpen has to toughen up but at least they got through the seventh to ninth inning without giving the game away.  We have a long way to go but Dombrowski has to be aware that we may need some bullpen help and maybe sooner than he thinks.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 04, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
Lots of good things in yesterday's game.  As I've said before, this pen has me worried.  By the way, why would Kimbrel ever throw more than one or two offspeed pitches in an at bat?  Throw the heater and let guys catch up with it, maybe throw in the slider or change or whatever that slow pitch he misses with every single freaking time is to change their bat speed, but nobody is ever going to swing at anything but a fastball and Kimbrel can't throw the offspeed stuff for strikes.   
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: SeaBeachFred on April 04, 2017, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: longgame on April 04, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
Lots of good things in yesterday's game.  As I've said before, this pen has me worried.  By the way, why would Kimbrel ever throw more than one or two offspeed pitches in an at bat?  Throw the heater and let guys catch up with it, maybe throw in the slider or change or whatever that slow pitch he misses with every single freaking time is to change their bat speed, but nobody is ever going to swing at anything but a fastball and Kimbrel can't throw the offspeed stuff for strikes.   

You would think by now he could throw a breaking pitch somewhere at the edge of the strike zone Ted where batters might fish for it, but since he can't heave ho with the hard stuff and move the ball up and down and in and out.   That should be good for one inning or four or five outs where necessary until he can locate a breaking ball.  What the hell are our pitching coaches teaching these guys anyway?  Go with your strength.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: Pumpsie Green on April 04, 2017, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: longgame on April 04, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
Lots of good things in yesterday's game.  As I've said before, this pen has me worried.  By the way, why would Kimbrel ever throw more than one or two offspeed pitches in an at bat?  Throw the heater and let guys catch up with it, maybe throw in the slider or change or whatever that slow pitch he misses with every single freaking time is to change their bat speed, but nobody is ever going to swing at anything but a fastball and Kimbrel can't throw the offspeed stuff for strikes.   

Thats the problem he had all last year: he could not throw his offspeed stuff for strikes consistently. On the days he could do that, he was essentially unhittable. But those days were few and far between, and if yesterday's game is a preview of what is going to happen this year its going to be a long long year.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: elktonnick on April 06, 2017, 07:46:11 AM
When Kimbrel goes bad he seems to over rotate and yank his pitches toward the first base side.
Title: Re: GAME #1, PIRATES @ RED SOX
Post by: longgame on April 06, 2017, 08:23:20 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on April 06, 2017, 07:46:11 AM
When Kimbrel goes bad he seems to over rotate and yank his pitches toward the first base side.

Speaking of yanking pitches to the first base side:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2701934-cardinals-star-adam-wainwright-throws-awful-wild-pitch-vs-cubs?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2701934-cardinals-star-adam-wainwright-throws-awful-wild-pitch-vs-cubs?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial)