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Title: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: longgame on December 10, 2022, 06:11:45 PM
Didn’t see the terms.  Seems the kind of guy Bloom would have liked and is better than any outfielder we have.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 11, 2022, 05:14:32 AM
Quote from: longgame on December 10, 2022, 06:11:45 PM
Didn’t see the terms.  Seems the kind of guy Bloom would have liked and is better than any outfielder we have.

At this point in the off-season, I don’t se Sox going after any of the marquis stars, or wanting to spend for anybody who would help better a team that finished 21 games behind MFY.  It looks more and more like another bridge year to the young stars with the money not doled out this year going to a do or die $300 mil++ to keep Devers. 

In their eyes the SS they need is two years down the road in Mayer and the OF in Raphaela.  The remaining deal in January will be a trade of Duran/Dalbek and a high prospect for a back end rotation pitcher. Welcome to Kansas City North.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 11, 2022, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 11, 2022, 05:14:32 AM
Quote from: longgame on December 10, 2022, 06:11:45 PM
Didn’t see the terms.  Seems the kind of guy Bloom would have liked and is better than any outfielder we have.

At this point in the off-season, I don’t se Sox going after any of the marquis stars, or wanting to spend for anybody who would help better a team that finished 21 games behind MFY.  It looks more and more like another bridge year to the young stars with the money not doled out this year going to a do or die $300 mil++ to keep Devers. 

In their eyes the SS they need is two years down the road in Mayer and the OF in Raphaela.  The remaining deal in January will be a trade of Duran/Dalbek and a high prospect for a back end rotation pitcher. Welcome to Kansas City North.

I think you hit it on the head Sea Dog, but such is a miserable judge of talent Bloom is he is more likely trade the good prospects and keep the duds like the few he got in previous trades.  He could sign Swanson and eventually move him to third when Mayer is ready to take over at shortstop, and let's be sure of Raphaela before we go overboard with him.  We said he same thing with Duran and look where he rates with us now.  Of course the front office and management jerked him around and whose to say we won't do the same with Raphy.  It seems that since 2018's conclusion to a great season this team has made one blunder after another, and don't be surprised if they fail to sign Devers-----and that ought to be Bloom's ticket to the unemployment line.  Frankly, I do not think we will sign Devers and will trade him next season for some of Bloom's "prospects" that most likely won't ever get to Boston since he is such a shitty judge of talent.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: longgame on December 12, 2022, 08:53:34 AM
Then of course they were supposed to be the front runners for Kodai Senga and didn't get him.  The Mets have sure made a splash.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 12, 2022, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: longgame on December 12, 2022, 08:53:34 AM
Then of course they were supposed to be the front runners for Kodai Senga and didn't get him.  The Mets have sure made a splash.

A $350m payroll will turn a lot of heads.  Cohen is with about $9 billion.  If it stifles NYY, I'll take that as  a small victory.   thumb_u
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 12, 2022, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: longgame on December 10, 2022, 06:11:45 PM
Didn’t see the terms.  Seems the kind of guy Bloom would have liked and is better than any outfielder we have.

He's holding out for Jackie Bradley.  It is just the type of thing Bloomer Bum would do.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 12, 2022, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 12, 2022, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: longgame on December 12, 2022, 08:53:34 AM
Then of course they were supposed to be the front runners for Kodai Senga and didn't get him.  The Mets have sure made a splash.

A $350m payroll will turn a lot of heads.  Cohen is with about $9 billion.  If it stifles NYY, I'll take that as  a small victory.   thumb_u

The Mets mean business and so do the Padres.  Quite a contrast to our bumbling bunch of losers in our front office.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 12, 2022, 03:19:07 PM
The Braves trading with the A’s for stud catcher Sean Murphy in a 3-team deal with Brewers.  Cubs and Brewers are reportedly doing another trade today.  Meanwhile the Sox MGT. is on life support.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: longgame on December 12, 2022, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on December 12, 2022, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 12, 2022, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: longgame on December 12, 2022, 08:53:34 AM
Then of course they were supposed to be the front runners for Kodai Senga and didn't get him.  The Mets have sure made a splash.

A $350m payroll will turn a lot of heads.  Cohen is with about $9 billion.  If it stifles NYY, I'll take that as  a small victory.   thumb_u

The Mets mean business and so do the Padres.  Quite a contrast to our bumbling bunch of losers in our front office.

Hard to believe that the Padres can keep dealing out these big contracts year after year.  Machado, Tatis and Bogey add up to about $1B in salary commitment.  I guess they don't plan on selling that team any time soon.  The Dodgers seem to have unlimited payroll as well.  The Sox have a ton tied up in Sale, but other than that you have to wonder how they don't have enough to spend on anyone.  I really do think they thought Bogey would come back to them and that they didn't have that money available and never even considered a Plan B. 
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: elktonnick on December 12, 2022, 04:29:15 PM
A couple of things about long term contracts, they are not as expensive as they appear in real terms.  A 7 percent inflation rate means that an 11 year contract is worth half in real dollars at the end of the contract as it does in the beginning.  Secondly the real gamble on San Diegos part is the health of the player. One presumes that SanDiego will be able to mitigate some of the risk through insurance.  Several years ago the Washington Post published an article about such insurance after the Nats signed Strasburg.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 15, 2022, 07:43:45 AM
There seems to be a move afoot for MFY to sign Eovaldi.  Another  thumb in the eye  of distraught Sox fans.  Add to that, Baltimore is in contact with Wacha.

Have the Sox FO gone into the bunker? Radio silence since the Bogey deal.  IMO the Bogey deal sent shockwaves through MGT.  I think they’re spending all their time finding out how they can now plug the dyke and somehow save Devers.  Word is, they can’t walk and chew gum together!   sigh
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: longgame on December 15, 2022, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 15, 2022, 07:43:45 AM
There seems to be a move afoot for MFY to sign Eovaldi.  Another  thumb in the eye  of distraught Sox fans.  Add to that, Baltimore is in contact with Wacha.

Have the Sox FO gone into the bunker? Radio silence since the Bogey deal.  IMO the Bogey deal sent shockwaves through MGT.  I think they’re spending all their time finding out how they can now plug the dyke and somehow save Devers.  Word is, they can’t walk and chew gum together!   sigh

They announced Yoshida and DFA'd Downs.  I think they're done other than an infield depth piece.  Do they think anyone on this staff has more than 3 or 4 innings a night in them?  I thought Wacha was pretty decent.  I've always been a bit up and down on Eovaldi.  But someone has to pitch after Chris Sale gets injured in Spring training. 
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: elktonnick on December 15, 2022, 03:57:46 PM
Downs dfa'd another Bloom success story.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 15, 2022, 10:56:25 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on December 15, 2022, 03:57:46 PM
Downs dfa'd another Bloom success story.

At first that seems like very good news since Downs was worthless at the bat, in the field and was only good for massing a ton of strikeouts.  He won't be missed at all.  But this was one of the three players we got for Mookie Betts?????  Are you shitting me????  Connor Wong is a reserve catcher who can't hit a lick, is very average behind the plate and is almost sure to be sent away after a year or two.  All we got of value for a future HOF is Alex Verdugo, good players but we could have done better with a couple of other prospects, but knowing how shitty Bloom is maybe we were lucky to get what we got.  Of course, DFA means nothing in Boston.  We DFA them, no one claims  then and they're back in the farm system al la Franchy, etc.  Still we did get rid of one piece of crap in Downs and that has to be some sort of progress for a team that has done little to improve themselves this Fall.
Title: Re: Rodon on the move
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 16, 2022, 05:43:31 AM
A big pitching prize to Cashman and NY, Carlos Rodon, 6/$162.

geez, I wonder if the Sox could afford Rich Hill.
Title: Re: Rodon on the move
Post by: longgame on December 16, 2022, 07:27:43 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 16, 2022, 05:43:31 AM
A big pitching prize to Cashman and NY, Carlos Rodon, 6/$162.

geez, I wonder if the Sox could afford Rich Hill.

Usually if you go through the lineups position by position, the Sox and Yankees match up well - some better on team or the other and a lot of tossups.   I’d say they likely now beat us at ever spot in the roster, save 3B.  For now. 
Title: Re: Swanson heading to Cubbies
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 17, 2022, 03:28:14 PM
Cubs and Dansby Swanson are closing on a deal.  The last of the big three shortstops.  Bloom &Co are under orders to rake in the dinero, raise ticket prices and give a big middle finger to the fan base.  Maybe the Orioles are within reach this year.
Title: Re: Swanson heading to Cubbies
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 17, 2022, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 17, 2022, 03:28:14 PM
Cubs and Dansby Swanson are closing on a deal.  The last of the big three shortstops.  Bloom &Co are under orders to rake in the dinero, raise ticket prices and give a big middle finger to the fan base.  Maybe the Orioles are within reach this year.

They will NOT see me travel to Fenway Park to spend my hard earned money to watch trash on the field, and I won't even consider it until Bloom is sent packing and the press do a destruction campaign on that  worthless cheap bastard passing as an owner.  What now, take back the DFA of Jeter Downs and pass him off as our new shortstop with his 60 strikeout race and his below Mendoza Line pathetic showing at the plate?  And give me any Elvis Andrus or Jose Eglesias either.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: elktonnick on December 17, 2022, 08:21:33 PM
Fred,The idea that Bloom is ever going to build a contending team is wishful thinking.  I doubt if the Sox w8ill ever make the playoffs in the near future.  Offensively the outfield sucks. Defensively it is not much better.  The infield will be mediocre at best assuming they find some one to play Short or 2nd.  They are placing all their hopes that Casas will pan out at 1st.  Catcher remains a question mark.  Right now I project this to be 75 win team.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: longgame on December 18, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
I seriously don’t get what the “plan” is.  Bloom wanted to add 7 to 9 players but added 5 and lost 1 who was better than any of the 5.  He wants to go after trades but anyone of value is locked up (wisely) so they have nothing to trade.  This is the least powerful Sox team I’ve ever seen.  Manny and Papi anyone?   Poor defense.   Gotta give Jansen a lot of credit.  With a poor rotation and no offense, backed up by bad defense he’s unlikely to see too many save situations. 
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 18, 2022, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: longgame on December 18, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
I seriously don’t get what the “plan” is.  Bloom wanted to add 7 to 9 players but added 5 and lost 1 who was better than any of the 5.  He wants to go after trades but anyone of value is locked up (wisely) so they have nothing to trade.  This is the least powerful Sox team I’ve ever seen.  Manny and Papi anyone?   Poor defense.   Gotta give Jansen a lot of credit.  With a poor rotation and no offense, backed up by bad defense he’s unlikely to see too many save situations.

If these slow as molasses things are still going on in January, I’d say Henry could be taking offers for some group to buy the Red Sox.  Why else would he insist on these continuous short term contracts? Sale’s deal is up next year I think.  He did sign Yoshida to 5 yrs. Story has an opt out in two years.  I’m getting way ahead of myself,  but something really stinks with the Red Sox.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: elktonnick on December 18, 2022, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 18, 2022, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: longgame on December 18, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
I seriously don’t get what the “plan” is.  Bloom wanted to add 7 to 9 players but added 5 and lost 1 who was better than any of the 5.  He wants to go after trades but anyone of value is locked up (wisely) so they have nothing to trade.  This is the least powerful Sox team I’ve ever seen.  Manny and Papi anyone?   Poor defense.   Gotta give Jansen a lot of credit.  With a poor rotation and no offense, backed up by bad defense he’s unlikely to see too many save situations.

If these slow as molasses things are still going on in January, I’d say Henry could be taking offers for some group to buy the Red Sox.  Why else would he insist on these continuous short term contracts? Sale’s deal is up next year I think.  He did sign Yoshida to 5 yrs. Story has an opt out in two years.  I’m getting way ahead of myself,  but something really stinks with the Red Sox.

I have long believed that Henry's recent purchase of the NHL team has left him in a tough situation financially.  He is not running the Red Sox in isolation.  He is doing much the same with Liverpool.  I understand their fans are as pissed at him as are Red Sox fans fans.  News is that he is either wishing to sell Liverpool or seeking new investors.  Now why would he do that after buying the Penguins if his financial situation were solid.   My guess that the recent up turn in interest rates is having its impact on FSG.

What I am surprised is why the Boston media is not asking questions. My guess is they are all in the tank for Henry and know their limits on how far they can criticize him personally.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 18, 2022, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: elktonnick on December 18, 2022, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 18, 2022, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: longgame on December 18, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
I seriously don’t get what the “plan” is.  Bloom wanted to add 7 to 9 players but added 5 and lost 1 who was better than any of the 5.  He wants to go after trades but anyone of value is locked up (wisely) so they have nothing to trade.  This is the least powerful Sox team I’ve ever seen.  Manny and Papi anyone?   Poor defense.   Gotta give Jansen a lot of credit.  With a poor rotation and no offense, backed up by bad defense he’s unlikely to see too many save situations.

If these slow as molasses things are still going on in January, I’d say Henry could be taking offers for some group to buy the Red Sox.  Why else would he insist on these continuous short term contracts? Sale’s deal is up next year I think.  He did sign Yoshida to 5 yrs. Story has an opt out in two years.  I’m getting way ahead of myself,  but something really stinks with the Red Sox.

I have long believed that Henry's recent purchase of the NHL team has left him in a tough situation financially.  He is not running the Red Sox in isolation.  He is doing much the same with Liverpool.  I understand their fans are as pissed at him as are Red Sox fans fans.  News is that he is either wishing to sell Liverpool or seeking new investors.  Now why would he do that after buying the Penguins if his financial situation were solid.   My guess that the recent up turn in interest rates is having its impact on FSG.

What I am surprised is why the Boston media is not asking questions. My guess is they are all in the tank for Henry and know their limits on how far they can criticize him personally.

Well the Boston media has gutless shit for brains and should band together with the best lawyers in Boston to prepare a massive law suit based on unlawful termination should that bastard owner try to retaliate on his sport staff for their determination to stand up to that man and what he is doing to the team.  The Herald is not owned by him and neither are the papers in Prividence, Hartford and elsewhere.  Bloom has to be fired and Henry has to be forced to sell a team he doesn't want to see win anymore. And then he can take Bloom with him, buy the Pirates and spend as little as possible because that team is used to starvation spending for their team.
Title: Re: Correa and Giants
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 21, 2022, 05:09:34 AM
Carlos Correa has failed his physical with San Fran an is now back in play as a free agent.  Bloomer Boy mow has a SS fall into his hands.

But Noooo. The teams that jumped right in who can afford his contract are Mets and Dodgers.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: Correa and Giants
Post by: longgame on December 21, 2022, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 21, 2022, 05:09:34 AM
Carlos Correa has failed his physical with San Fran an is now back in play as a free agent.  Bloomer Boy mow has a SS fall into his hands.

But Noooo. The teams that jumped right in who can afford his contract are Mets and Dodgers.  It is what it is.

Apparently signed with the Mets.  Wow.  The Mets are all in.  The Yankees announce Judge as their Captain.  The Red Sox sign a minor leaguer - a minor league utlityman no less.  Imagine a minor leaguer not good enough to lock down a position and of course Bloom goes out and gets him. 
Title: Re: Correa and Giants
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 21, 2022, 11:39:31 AM
Quote from: longgame on December 21, 2022, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 21, 2022, 05:09:34 AM
Carlos Correa has failed his physical with San Fran an is now back in play as a free agent.  Bloomer Boy mow has a SS fall into his hands.

But Noooo. The teams that jumped right in who can afford his contract are Mets and Dodgers.  It is what it is.

Apparently signed with the Mets.  Wow.  The Mets are all in.  The Yankees announce Judge as their Captain.  The Red Sox sign a minor leaguer - a minor league utlityman no less.  Imagine a minor leaguer not good enough to lock down a position and of course Bloom goes out and gets him.

What else can you expect from that poop for brains Bloomer Boy?  Niko Goodrum failed in Detroit and elsewhere but did play for a short time for the WSC Astros this year.  Maybe he learned a little about winning.  Still another shitty signing but it might keep the crappy Jeter Downs out of Boston, who I suspect cleared waivers because the three time loser is just a sunk cost.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: elktonnick on December 21, 2022, 12:30:36 PM
Another Swiss Army Knife for the junk draw.  I think Bloom is trying to set the major league record for having  the most players who can play multi positions without being very good at any one position.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to he J
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 22, 2022, 07:50:14 AM
Yankees closing in on trade with Pirates for Brian Reynolds.  The ALEast run  will be a moot point this year.   Meanwhile the Sox are aggressive --- no  more like passive aggressive   sigh
Title: Re: Jays at the table
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on December 24, 2022, 06:55:02 AM
Th Sox had been exploring the trade market several weeks for a good OF.  Those trades come at a cost.  One of those Sox targets was Varsho of Dbacks.

Yesterday D backs traded OF Varsho for Jays’ top prospect catcher Moreno and starting OF Guriel Jr. The Sox are back on the clock.  Maybe a trade with Marlins for INF Joey Wendle .   Marlins turned down the trade pieces for SS Rojas.  With the lack of a great bat, as those two players lack the punch, the net changes do not improve the Sox from infield 2022.  (Wendle hit .270 in 22 I think).
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: longgame on December 24, 2022, 10:41:47 AM
It would seem to me that a club would go into the offseason with a plan.  We want these guys, and if we don’t get player A, we move on to Player B. By contrast, the Sox appear to have no plans and seem to cast about with “interest” in lots of players.  You lose a SS, you go an get your second choice for SS, right?  It’s sort of like shopping for a car and when they don’t have it you just walk home and maybe try to buy a horse and some goats?
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: elktonnick on December 24, 2022, 11:44:34 AM
Quote from: longgame on December 24, 2022, 10:41:47 AM
It would seem to me that a club would go into the offseason with a plan.  We want these guys, and if we don’t get player A, we move on to Player B. By contrast, the Sox appear to have no plans and seem to cast about with “interest” in lots of players.  You lose a SS, you go an get your second choice for SS, right?  It’s sort of like shopping for a car and when they don’t have it you just walk home and maybe try to buy a horse and some goats?

Love your analogy
Title: Re: Jays at the table
Post by: SeaBeachFred on December 24, 2022, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 24, 2022, 06:55:02 AM
Th Sox had been exploring the trade market several weeks for a good OF.  Those trades come at a cost.  One of those Sox targets was Varsho of Dbacks.

Yesterday D backs traded OF Varsho for Jays’ top prospect catcher Moreno and starting OF Guriel Jr. The Sox are back on the clock.  Maybe a trade with Marlins for INF Joey Wendle .   Marlins turned down the trade pieces for SS Rojas.  With the lack of a great bat, as those two players lack the punch, the net changes do not improve the Sox from infield 2022.  (Wendle hit .270 in 22 I think).

Outfoxed, outsmarted and outbid---once again Bloom has continued to cement himself as the most incompetent and worthless baseball player executive in Red Sox history and now we fine ourselves out of the running for Nathan Eovaldi because Bloomer boy's total failure as our baseball ops director and Henry's miserable penny pinching.  This 2023 team will be one of the worst for the Red Sox in the past 30 year.  And NO JOEY WENDLE FOR US BLOOMER, YOU STUPID BASTARD.  WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER LEFT HANDED HITTER. WE NEED POWER FROM THE RIGHT SIDE, MAYBE TWO SUCH HITTERS
Title: Re: Jays at the table
Post by: longgame on December 27, 2022, 10:32:27 AM
Quote from: SeaBeachFred on December 24, 2022, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on December 24, 2022, 06:55:02 AM
Th Sox had been exploring the trade market several weeks for a good OF.  Those trades come at a cost.  One of those Sox targets was Varsho of Dbacks.

Yesterday D backs traded OF Varsho for Jays’ top prospect catcher Moreno and starting OF Guriel Jr. The Sox are back on the clock.  Maybe a trade with Marlins for INF Joey Wendle .   Marlins turned down the trade pieces for SS Rojas.  With the lack of a great bat, as those two players lack the punch, the net changes do not improve the Sox from infield 2022.  (Wendle hit .270 in 22 I think).

Outfoxed, outsmarted and outbid---once again Bloom has continued to cement himself as the most incompetent and worthless baseball player executive in Red Sox history and now we fine ourselves out of the running for Nathan Eovaldi because Bloomer boy's total failure as our baseball ops director and Henry's miserable penny pinching.  This 2023 team will be one of the worst for the Red Sox in the past 30 year.  And NO JOEY WENDLE FOR US BLOOMER, YOU STUPID BASTARD.  WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER LEFT HANDED HITTER. WE NEED POWER FROM THE RIGHT SIDE, MAYBE TWO SUCH HITTERS

And it’s not like we didn’t have these needs going into the offseason and then they lose their two best right handed hitters that carried what little offense was left on this team. 

I’m sure some weak hitting lefty utility guys are available somewhere and teams know they can unload anyone on Bloom.
Title: Re: Correa and Twins
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on January 10, 2023, 11:36:04 AM
The Twins and Correa are finalizing a deal at 6/$200m, could max at 270. And the caveat. pending physical.
Title: Re: Correa and Twins
Post by: longgame on January 10, 2023, 11:43:25 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on January 10, 2023, 11:36:04 AM
The Twins and Correa are finalizing a deal at 6/$220m, could max at 270m.  And the caveat. pending physical.

Yep "Pending physical".  I would have thought the home of the Mayo Clinic would have good doctors like in NY and SF, but if he passes, I guess not!

Someone said he's signed for $800MM already this offseason.

Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on January 11, 2023, 06:50:32 PM
Bloom wasted all that time pondering what pitchers and shortstops Sox could get in a trade withe the Marlins.  Now all Bloom gets is a monstrous phone bill.  Did studying the great philosophers at Yale prepare him for anything besides driving a clown car?

Today the Marlins completed a 3-team trade with Pirates and Dodgers.involving 9-10 players. LA gets the SS Miguel Rojas and the young pitcher Rogers from Marlins.  Pittsburgh sends a great OF Brian Reynolds to Marlins. I think Blake Tienen went from LA to Pirates among some other players.
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: elktonnick on January 11, 2023, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on January 11, 2023, 06:50:32 PM
Bloom wasted all that time pondering what pitchers and shortstops Sox could get in a trade withe the Marlins.  Now all Bloom gets is a monstrous phone bill.  Did studying the great philosophers at Yale prepare him for anything besides driving a clown car?

Today the Marlins completed a 3-team trade with Pirates and Dodgers.involving 9-10 players. LA gets the SS Miguel Rojas and the young pitcher Rogers from Marlins.  Pittsburgh sends a great OF Brian Reynolds to Marlins. I think Blake Tienen went from LA to Pirates among some other players.

One of the major criticisms of Bloom by Fenway has been his slowness at making decisions.  He is constantly being out maneuvered by his competitors.  I think studying Machiavelli and Sun Tzu would have prepared him better than the ancient Greek and Roman philosophers.   
Title: Re: Kiermaier to the Jays
Post by: longgame on January 12, 2023, 08:44:03 AM
Quote from: elktonnick on January 11, 2023, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on January 11, 2023, 06:50:32 PM
Bloom wasted all that time pondering what pitchers and shortstops Sox could get in a trade withe the Marlins.  Now all Bloom gets is a monstrous phone bill.  Did studying the great philosophers at Yale prepare him for anything besides driving a clown car?

Today the Marlins completed a 3-team trade with Pirates and Dodgers.involving 9-10 players. LA gets the SS Miguel Rojas and the young pitcher Rogers from Marlins.  Pittsburgh sends a great OF Brian Reynolds to Marlins. I think Blake Tienen went from LA to Pirates among some other players.

One of the major criticisms of Bloom by Fenway has been his slowness at making decisions.  He is constantly being out maneuvered by his competitors.  I think studying Machiavelli and Sun Tzu would have prepared him better than the ancient Greek and Roman philosophers.

Well said.  I wonder if he gets tired of getting beaten in every single pursuit by the rest of MLB.  I've never seen a guy lose so much and he's building our team.  Maybe he should just go with a gut feel one time and make a deal.  Let's face it, they were shamed into acting on Devers or he'd be gone too. 

Title: Re: Chapman
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on January 19, 2023, 07:23:18 PM
A Chapman sighting. Aroldis Chapman signed with the Royals this week, 1/ 3.75 mil with incentives.  I haven't heard his name since he went AWOL from NYY.
Title: Re: Darwinzon
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on January 26, 2023, 03:44:04 PM
The Orioles DFAd Darwinzon before throwing a pitch, after they traded for Cole Irvin. Irvin was 3.07 era at Oakland, but 5.26 on the road.
Title: Re: Phillies at SS
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on January 30, 2023, 07:29:08 AM
Dombrowski is a baseball man.  Return his team to the playoffs.  He gets it.  He lost the 2B Segura to FA. He had an adequate SS Bryson Stott for ‘22 in the World Series.  A star SS Trea Turner is available.  He gets that done.  To bolster SS /2B on Friday, he signed a stable Josh Harrison +1.5 WAR, .256 ba in ‘22 .  Strength up the middle.

Pivot to Boston.  Sox lose their icon at SS to the Padres.  Then lose the backup SS to surgery.  Move the CF to SS,  check.  To give help to a thin infield, Bloom signs a fragile SS who has had 15 injuries in 7 years, -00.4 WAR, .140 ba in 2022 of an injured year,  and is still rehabbing from two ‘22 surgeries.  Strength up the middle?  Bloom excels at accounting 101 but does not understand winning baseball.
Title: Re: Phillies at SS
Post by: SeaBeachFred on January 30, 2023, 04:33:41 PM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on January 30, 2023, 07:29:08 AM
Dombrowski is a baseball man.  Return his team to the playoffs.  He gets it.  He lost the 2B Segura to FA. He had an adequate SS Bryson Stott for ‘22 in the World Series.  A star SS Trea Turner is available.  He gets that done.  To bolster SS /2B on Friday, he signed a stable Josh Harrison +1.5 WAR, .256 ba in ‘22 .  Strength up the middle.

Pivot to Boston.  Sox lose their icon at SS to the Padres.  Then lose the backup SS to surgery.  Move the CF to SS,  check.  To give help to a thin infield, Bloom signs a fragile SS who has had 15 injuries in 7 years, -00.4 WAR, .140 ba in 2022 of an injured year,  and is still rehabbing from two ‘22 surgeries.  Strength up the middle?  Bloom excels at accounting 101 but does not understand winning baseball.

Go get 'em Sea Dog, but please tell us something we do not know.  Bloom is a blooming baseball idiot.
Title: Re: Padres get a pitcher
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on February 14, 2023, 10:49:42 AM
With a 2022 record of 12-2 and 3.23 era, Michael Wacha agrees to sign with San Diego
Title: Re: Padres get a pitcher
Post by: longgame on February 15, 2023, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on February 14, 2023, 10:49:42 AM
With a 2022 record of 12-2 and 3.23 era, Michael Wacha agrees to sign with San Diego

Too bad the Red Sox can't get guys like this.   >:(
Title: Re: Machado extension
Post by: Sea Dog 23 on February 26, 2023, 09:53:33 AM
Padres are in the process of finalizing a Bogey type deal for Manny Machado.  Money to burn.  11 years, however San Diego ups his deal to $350 mil (Bogey got $280m)  Thats $31.8 AAV.
Title: Re: Machado extension
Post by: longgame on February 26, 2023, 10:54:42 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on February 26, 2023, 09:53:33 AM
Padres are in the process of finalizing a Bogey type deal for Manny Machado.  Money to burn.  11 years, however San Diego ups his deal to $350 mil (Bogey got $280m)  Thats $31.8 AAV.

That puts him I think at 42 at the end of their contract.  They better win a lot in the next 5 years!
Title: Re: Machado extension
Post by: SeaBeachFred on February 26, 2023, 12:38:40 PM
Quote from: longgame on February 26, 2023, 10:54:42 AM
Quote from: Sea Dog 23 on February 26, 2023, 09:53:33 AM
Padres are in the process of finalizing a Bogey type deal for Manny Machado.  Money to burn.  11 years, however San Diego ups his deal to $350 mil (Bogey got $280m)  Thats $31.8 AAV.

That puts him I think at 42 at the end of their contract.  They better win a lot in the next 5 years!

As for your last sentence longgame, the Padres did eliminate the Dodgers in the NLDS last year three games to one. That's the good news, but a one shot pony isn't going to do it.  They have to take over the domination of the NL West, keep outpacing the Dodgers and go on to win a World Series, something they have never done, within that  time period.  Large adoring crowds in a terrific city known for its great amenities would encourage new free agents to keep humming into San Diego because the Padres would be rolling in with money for that.  Winning does that, losing doesn't as our Red Sox might have to find out this coming season unless ownership, the baseball ops people and the board of strategy get their shit together.  My wife has become a big Padres fan the past few years and I am rooting for her to get a feel of what a championship could mean to her and all Padres fans.  I still think I remember ours.